[Master Lawbringer (OP)]

CMPML, Department of System Failure!

1. All knowledge is ultimately circular. Break any idea down long enough and you'll end up with ideas, like 'time', for which all definitions end up circular.

Specifically concerning numbers : You can't escape the fact that trying to define what a number actually is begins and ends with the pragmatic observation that we, and other machines, are able to count. Logic and set theory, themselves based on self-evident, circular, concepts (try to define 'set') are circularly dependent on each other and even if you reduce everything to just manipulations of symbols you'll just end up with a machine that can count and perform calculations.

You can't escape the self-evident and circular nature of the fundamental ideas.

2. You can't define randomness because actually defining it ceases to make it truly random. Randomness appears when you can't measure any further. This means that measurement, and the knowledge coming from it, stops. The scientific method just stops there.
Bell's Theorem is just a strange and backwards way of saying : Pure chance cannot be defined.

3. All mathematical theories of physics end up plagued by logical trivialism and there is no experimental support for new physics beyond the standard model that they hope could solve those problems. Physics is pushed further and further into untestability and pipe dreams like String Theory. And the longer this process lasts, and it has already lasted for over a generation, the more likely it becomes that no further revolution(s) in that area are to be expected.

In fact, it's better to notice that the themes of unmeasurability, randomness, logical trivialism and the inability to perform further experiments all imply the absence of further knowledge.

4. And when they venture into metaphysical speculation like many worlds, multiverse or simulation theory they end up on the same playing field as the traditional religions. You get no points for making a metaphysical theory just 'sciency' sounding, it's after all the evidence that counts. But seeing as they end up on the same playing field as religion, those traditional religions all of a sudden have more evidence going for them. After all, a religion _is_ a remarkable event and just that, and other remarkable things about them, is more evidence than just zero for many worlds, multiverse or simulation theory with the last mimicking traditional religion so closely that it's just silly.

You should notice that those sciency religions are very close to 'anything goes', to logical trivialism.

Here endeth the lesson.

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[alancalverd]

You can't define randomness because actually defining it ceases to make it truly random.

Transferred epithet. I can define something without affecting it, or even presupposing that it does or can exist.

Randomness = inherent unpredictability.

Does god play dice? If your god is omniscient, there would be no point since he knows the outcome of everything. If he isn't omniscient, he's not much of a god.

Beware of confusing uncertainty (inadequate knowledge) with indeterminacy (inherent randomness). It's a common problem, arising from a poor but persistent translation of Heisenberg's work.

[puppypower]

Randomness is not a permanent state but rather it is time dependent. As proof of this, the winner of tonight's lottery may look random, now, but it will not be random tomorrow. Tomorrow, the apparent random lottery winner becomes a sure thing. All you need to do is ask their lawyer and tax collector. The both have a very specific target.

An omniscience God can step out of time, so what appears to be random, now, will be a sure thing by tomorrow. This is why  time potential theory is needed as an upgrade over existing theory.

If we look at math logic, if an equation contains time. we know the future of the phenomena and therefore the ancient perception of random, that can occur in the moment, is predictable in the future. If we throw a ball it can land anywhere and appear random to those stuck in real time. If we make use of the projectile motion equations, for continuous and future time, it is a sure thing. This approach will spook the minds of those who is conditioned to random perception; Boo!!  like it did at the start of the Age of Enlightenment. 

That being said, say we assumed random is independent of time. After the lottery winner wins, we assume random is still in affect.; mystery remains. That irrational approach, if accepted by science,  would degrade science, since it would imply that the future of reality is not stable, but continues to be a coincidence. 

The Golden Age of science, where almost all modern physics was developed, occurred before Physics accepted a random approach. Since then, if we factor out technology improvements,  science theory has made no major theoretical breakthroughs, and now more than one theory is allowed for most things; artifact of perpetual randomness.  We are now somewhere between the bronze and rusty metal age of science, where advances in technology and data collection moves faster than theory, and the data jumble perpetuates the perception of random.

We can reverse trend, but it requires we remove the mental prosthesis of random. Like a band-aid over a scab, we need to yank it off and let the air; common sense, heal the scab. The oracles of statistics, which measure the whims of the gods, is not fit to be called science. It should be redefined as prophecy religion. The statistical conclusions are self for filling, in that since \don't hit the target in the middle; margin to error, they thereby perpetuate future perpetual random. One cannot tell by these oracles, that tomorrow's lottery winner is determinate. This appears to cause  faulty and unnatural neuron wiring.