[Starlight (OP)]

Time does not exist independent of matter as there is only space itself that is independent of matter .  Space itself having no mechanism to age , the space itself cannot be created or destroyed .
As Newton stated an absolute , immovable space and timeless .  To add to Newton , an absolute infinite  reference frame with a constant value of 0 . Zero dimensions , zero energy , zero kelvins . Zero mass .
To simplify , an infinite volume of points .


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Understand that the provided picture is the picture from my mind , a direct observation in 3d of the infinite reference frame .  You are observing an infinite distance in this picture . Understand darkness or light does not exist in this  picture , there is just no matter to see that is illuminated or in shadow .
The picture is transparent , clear , the darkness you see is an optical illusion .




To be continued ........

[Starlight (OP)]

In math  terms we can define and accept this infinite absolute reference frame as real coordinate space with unspecified dimensions . R^n

In mathematics, real coordinate space of n dimensions, written Rn (/ɑːrˈɛn/ ar-EN) (also written ℝn with blackboard bold) is a coordinate space that allows several (n) real variables to be treated as a single variable. With various numbers of dimensions (sometimes unspecified), Rn is used in many areas of pure and applied mathematics, as well as in physics. With component-wise addition and scalar multiplication, it is the prototypical real vector space and is a frequently used representation of Euclidean n-space. Due to the latter fact, geometric metaphors are widely used for Rn, namely a plane for R2 and three-dimensional space for R3.

Time cannot be measured if there is no thing to measure or without a practitioner to do the measure !  This being more than obvious logic . A time device needs mechanics to work  , an infinite absolute reference frame does not have these mechanics .

To be continued .....

[Starlight (OP)]

When does time begin ? Time begins when the R^n space changes . In math change is represented by Δ

ΔR^n=?  or we can write the absolute value Δ0=?

We know that any change in absolute MUST be a change in energy and the creation of energy . Applying this in math sense

Δ0=ΔE

Now we've already stated that time begins when the event of Δ0 occurs , so therefore :

Δt=ΔE


A change of time MUST equal a change of energy .


To be continued ....

[The Spoon]

When does time begin ? Time begins when the R^n space changes . In math change is represented by Δ

ΔR^n=?  or we can write the absolute value Δ0=?

We know that any change in absolute MUST be a change in energy and the creation of energy . Applying this in math sense

Δ0=ΔE

Now we've already stated that time begins when the event of Δ0 occurs , so therefore :

Δt=ΔE


A change of time MUST equal a change of energy .


To be continued ....

I think you have proved on this post and elsewhere that you are a troll and a compulsive liar.

[puppypower]

According to Einstein's theory of General Relativity, mass can impact space-time. Gravity, due to mass can bend space-time. While the math of special relativity indicates that mass cannot move at the speed of light. At the speed of light there is discontinuity in time.

If we add it up, mass makes time possible. The existence of mass breaks the discontinuity in time, since mass cannot go there. The amount of mass in a given volume, regulates the flow of time. If all mass was converted to energy, there would be no particle reference that is outside the discontinuity in time. If energy was to condense into mass, the time discontinuity breaks and time would appear. If we assume time began at the big bang than this would also have to mean this is when mass appears. Time and space-time are discontinuous without mass to break the discontinuity.

The analogy is breaking an azeotrope in chemistry. For example, if we distill water and ethyl alcohol we can only reach 95% pure alcohol due to an azeotrope. The azeotrope is where an inversion occurs and water instead of alcohol starts to come off the top. Up to 95% alcohol comes off the top. To get to 100% you need to crack the azeotrope. Mass does this with time.

When time and space are discontinuous at the speed light, space-time is also discontinuous. At the speed off light reference, one can move in time without space requirements and move in space without time requirements, since space, time and space-time become discontinuous. When mass appears, space and time are required to work together. The difference between these two extreme states is called time and distance potential.

If you could move in time without space requirements and move in space without time requirements, entropy would be maximized, since all variety is possible. Once mass requires space and time to coordinate, as space-time, there is a lowering of entropy; drastic decrease in possible options. This mass transition into lower entropy would be very exothermic, and provides the energy for mass, which then allows time to appear.

The second law is a reflection of the induced time potential lowering, where usable energy is taken off line, as entropy, with entropy needing to increase back to the discontinuity state.  There space and time are separate and entropy is infinite and discontinuous with inertial states.

What is cool is matter and mass is forbidden from directly going back to energy. There is a lots of potential in mass, but there is an activation energy barrier that is insurmountable for reversal. Since mass cannot go back in time, it can only go forward in time, until the time potential has been expressed via entropy increase.

[Bored chemist]

The analogy is breaking an azeotrope in chemistry. For example, if we distill water and ethyl alcohol we can only reach 95% pure alcohol due to an azeotrope. The azeotrope is where an inversion occurs and water instead of alcohol starts to come off the top. Up to 95% alcohol comes off the top. To get to 100% you need to crack the azeotrope.

Nonsense.

Does it not trouble you that you keep agreeing with a noted troll?

[The Spoon]

Not only a troll but a compulsive liar.

[puppypower]

It is harder to contribute to a topic than it is to be a cynic. I like to do things the hard way since this is better exercise for the brain. 

According to General Relativity mass and therefore gravity can control time. We can speed up or slow time to based on how much mass we have, locally. Mass can control time. 

In special relativity, if we plug in C; the speed light, into the SR equations for mass, distance ad time we get an infinite value, which is a mathematical discontinuity. For example, in the mass equation in SR, it would take infinite energy for mass to move at the speed of light. This cannot happen due to the discontinuity in energy; infinite, that is implied. The discontinuities in time and space also suggest these concepts no longer apply at C.

If we put it all together, mass can control the flow of time; GR reference affect, but only in the range of reference, that is outside the speed of light reference. There,t here is a discontinuity, and mass cannot go there to have any impact. When mass first appeared, at a slightly less than C reference equivalent,  time was no longer discontinuous, and mass began to control time. The clock starts to tick. As the universe expanded and mass density got less, time sped up, since mass controls time and mass density was decreasing. Dark energy does not control time. GR says this is so many words. The expansion of space-time, by dark energy, is moving mass apart, thereby speeding up time via lowered mass density.

If you had a photon that was traveling in empty space, it would not age. This is because it travels at C where time is discontinuous and age is not a valid concept. The only reason we see the wavelength of photons change is due to external affects; matter interaction and other red shifting affects. If the universal red shift was even partially due to aging photons we would have to recalculate the assumed age of the universe, But nobody has observed photons aging when in isolation.

We had all we needed to do this in 1905, when Einstein wrote his theory of relativity, The cynics made enough noise to dumb everyone down for 115 years. I tend to go retro in my theory because big mistake were made early and they need correcting.

[Bored chemist]

It is harder to contribute to a topic than it is to be a cynic.

Posting nonsense and errors is not a contribution; at best, it's a distraction.

If you had a photon that was traveling in empty space, it would not age.

Photons ALWAYS travel in empty space.

I like to do things the hard way since this is better exercise for the brain.

You can also exercise your brain by study.
Try it.

In the meantime, perhaps you would like to explain why you waste time and bandwidth on nonsense.
At the least, you ought to answer my question:

Does it not trouble you that you keep agreeing with a noted troll?

[puppypower]

It is harder to contribute to a topic than it is to be a cynic.

Posting nonsense and errors is not a contribution; at best, it's a distraction.

If you had a photon that was traveling in empty space, it would not age.

Photons ALWAYS travel in empty space.

I like to do things the hard way since this is better exercise for the brain.

You can also exercise your brain by study.
Try it.

In the meantime, perhaps you would like to explain why you waste time and bandwidth on nonsense.
At the least, you ought to answer my question:

Does it not trouble you that you keep agreeing with a noted troll?

I notice you did not critique my post with logic and data, but only the smoke screen of cynicism.

[Bored chemist]

I notice you did not critique my post with logic and data, but only the smoke screen of cynicism.

The grown ups will realise that
you didn't answer my question.
I did provide data.