[duffyd (OP)]

How do Christians claim that their god is all about love when it sends people to hell for not believing in it but forgives paedophiles, rapists and murderers?

Sin is sin

[duffyd (OP)]

Which do you think would impress your god more, people whose main motivation is to get into heaven or with people who don't need an incentive to do the right thing?

Neither

[duffyd (OP)]

If your answer to any of those questions was yes you've got far bigger problems and aren't worthy of saving from your self-delusional insanity.

You have an agenda. You don't want a dialogue.

[Bored chemist]

Duffy, you missed one

Personal testimony, sharing with others how God became real to people, is a scientifically valid tool

What's the mechanism for falsification?
(The one without which it isn't scientific)

[duffyd (OP)]

Duffy, you missed one

Personal testimony, sharing with others how God became real to people, is a scientifically valid tool

What's the mechanism for falsification?
(The one without which it isn't scientific)

So long. You are a slow learner.

[duffyd (OP)]

We find those who argue against the existence of God constantly referring to scriptures they don't like because of their violent content. They recognize their authority as God's word. What is so fascinating is their unwillingness to use scriptures which are filled with messages of God's love in their presentations. 

[duffyd (OP)]

I'll be back. All are invited to join in except those who have been banned.

[Bored chemist]

They recognize their authority as God's word.

No.

[Bored chemist]

Duffy, you missed one

Personal testimony, sharing with others how God became real to people, is a scientifically valid tool

What's the mechanism for falsification?
(The one without which it isn't scientific)

So long. You are a slow learner.

No. I learn quite quickly.
For example I learn that you say things that are not true.
For example, you said you would respond to valid criticism.

I address valid points.

But you don't.

[Bored chemist]

I'll be back. All are invited to join in except those who have been banned.

Well, yes; obviously.
People banned from the site can't post.

[duffyd (OP)]

trolling won't help

[Bored chemist]

trolling won't help

Today's award for stating the damned obvious goes to Duffy.
(Someone might want to get him a mirror.)

[A-wal]

Do you really think that anyone who doesn't already believe is going to be convinced by your arguments?

You bet

Then you're even crazier than I thought.

What makes your particular brand of religion any better or more likely to be true than any other?

Better? It depends on what you mean.
I don't believe in religion

Okay, what makes it more likely to be true than the claims of other religions? It's every bit as silly as the others, more so in most cases.

Why would your god need to judge people? It should already know exactly what everyone's going to do before they're even born! If not then it's not all knowing is it?

I don't refer to God as it.

I couldn't care less what you call it, I'll call it Trevor. Why would Trevor need to judge people on their actions, or test them at all it Trevor already knows everything? He should know exactly what's going to happen before anyone is born, if not he's not all knowing. If he does know then why do you believe we're here exactly, what's the point?

Well you certainly believe in one religion, Christanity is a religion. Like all godites though you're close to being an atheist, you only believe in one. Ask yourself why you don't believe in any others than you'll understand why we don't believe in yours.

We find those who argue against the existence of God constantly referring to scriptures they don't like because of their violent content. They recognize their authority as God's word. What is so fascinating is their unwillingness to use scriptures which are filled with messages of God's love in their presentations.

Quite the opposite, I recognise Trevor's words for exactly what they are, entirely made up bs for the most part designed to enslave the weak willed. Maybe some of it is actually loosely based on real events, like most mythology.

My point wasn't that those words from the bible should be taken seriously by any sane person, it was that if you want to claim that the bible is true then Trevor is not worthy of anyone's praise or devotion. He is in fact a complete dick-head.

[duffyd (OP)]

No offense, but you remind me of bored chemist. writing style, easily angered, disrespectful, always right, loud, very loud, poor spelling, obstinate, won't follow directions, illogical, manipulative, Oh Very manipulative, demanding, spoiled, humorless.

you've got some questions to answer, too. or, you too will be ignored.

did you ever spend time confined/locked-up when you were a juvenile delinquent? be honest

[duffyd (OP)]

What I find so sad and funny is the attempts to use scripture with violent content as proof God cannot be. God has no right to kill. He is not sovereign. He is not The Lord God Almighty, not the Alpha and the Omega. He can't be because He disobeys my expectations. He must be as I decide He must be or He ain't, period. Or so they believe, often unaware of it. He doesn't work that way and it is a hard pill to swallow. But, they use certain scriptures to justify turning their backs on Him when that has nothing to do with their rejection of him, at all. They choose to reject him, not because he isn't real or they don't like who he is, but because they are holding onto something which has benefits. Or, at least they are convinced those "benefits" are worth holding on to.

Like a drug addict whose been shooting up for years. She wants that initial euphoria back and sells her body, her children, her loved ones, her health seeking the "benefit" of her drug. Trying to reason with her is near impossible and she will insist on any number of excuses for holding on to the drug that is killing her. That high is more important than everything she's sacrificed. Our minds and our hearts can be and are terribly deceived some times.

[duffyd (OP)]

Al, I had the feeling you'd be a no show, just like your friends. Getting ignored is just another means to refuse to debate. 

[duffyd (OP)]

Alice Cooper Herod is doing it. Show me a miracle and Ill get you out of this jam.
Now, why didn't he?
Think of all the influential people who would have believed. He has the perfect chance to show these big shots who he is and to get out of being slaughtered. And he is silent. He refused to interfere with the ongoing drama, The Passion Playing out before his very eyes, for which He always existed.

[Bored chemist]

did you ever spend time confined/locked-up when you were a juvenile delinquent? be honest

Just to clarify things, I was never a juvenile delinquent.
I presume you were.

[Bored chemist]

you remind me of bored chemist. writing style, easily angered, disrespectful, always right, loud, very loud, poor spelling, obstinate, won't follow directions, illogical, manipulative, Oh Very manipulative, demanding, spoiled, humorless.

You missed out smug, and privileged.
It's obviously silly to describe written communication as " loud, very loud, "
The adjective "disrespectful, " is interesting.
How much respect should we show to someone who turns up, flouts the rules, preaches at us and makes false allegations?
I think you are getting more respect than you deserve.

It's difficult to recognise humour when you are the butt of it.
And it's odd that his poor spelling reminds you of me. I'm quite careful about  spelling. I fall victim to the odd typo- just like everyone else.
However, at the end of the day, thanks for accepting this; I'm

always right

[duffyd (OP)]

you remind me of bored chemist. writing style, easily angered, disrespectful, always right, loud, very loud, poor spelling, obstinate, won't follow directions, illogical, manipulative, Oh Very manipulative, demanding, spoiled, humorless.

You missed out smug, and privileged.
It's obviously silly to describe written communication as " loud, very loud, "
The adjective "disrespectful, " is interesting.
How much respect should we show to someone who turns up, flouts the rules, preaches at us and makes false allegations?
I think you are getting more respect than you deserve.

It's difficult to recognise humour when you are the butt of it.
And it's odd that his poor spelling reminds you of me. I'm quite careful about  spelling. I fall victim to the odd typo- just like everyone else.
However, at the end of the day, thanks for accepting this; I'm

always right

There are institutes in Switzerland, hospitals, with large staffs that might be able to help. You don't need a doctor. You need an entire hospital dedicated to treating the desperately ill. You need a year or two to be stabilized with an entire 40 to 50 member team of top psychiatrists working on you night and day.

Good luck. Don't worry. They are doing wonderful things today with advanced shock treatments and massive quantities of cutting edge anti-psychotics, even brain transplant surgery is making a comeback. Take care. You'll be fine. Ok. Be good. Stay safe. That's right. Sure it is-ok. Bye now. Bye-bye