[talanum1]

No, you can not.
That was sorted out a few hundred years ago.

I assure you, I can.
How was it sorted out?
It couldn't have been shorted out for me since I wasn't born yet.

[Bored chemist]

I assure you, I can.

I assure you that you are mistaken.

How was it sorted out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_argument

It couldn't have been shorted out for me since I wasn't born yet.

That's just silly.
Do you think that Pythagoras' theorem doesn't apply to you because it's very old?

[talanum1]

I carefully examined it, and it can be rigorously tested by anyone.

[Bored chemist]

it can be rigorously tested by anyone.

So far, you have not even described it.

[puppypower]

What is a photon ?
A photon whether it is mass or energy  it shouldn’t move at c.

A photon is a type of bridge state between the speed of light reference and inertial references. The photon has characteristics of both references at the same time. 

Photons travel at the speed of light, yet all photons do not appear homogeneous in appearance. In other words, according to SR as velocity increases toward the speed of light finite distance and time expressions will appear to contract, At the speed of light, distance and time will appear to contract to a point-instant in our reference,

Yet, even though all photons travel at the speed of light, they do not all show the homogeneity of the point instant as predicted by SR. Instead they will display different expressions of finite distance and time; wavelength and frequency even at the speed of light.  Photons have one leg in the speed of light reference; v=c, and one leg in inertial reference; finite wavelength and frequency not characteristic of the c reference. 

Photons are a bridge between inertial reference and the speed of light reference. When photons form from the interaction of matter and force, they are born and appear at the speed of light with finite wavelengths and frequencies to reflect their dual nature. 

Photons appear when matter lowers potential. In this case we go from only inertial reference to inertial plus the speed of light reference; two legged photon. If matter was to increase potential photons will be absorbed. In this caee we go from inertial plus speed of light to just inertial when matter increases potential.

If you of the math, the speed of light aspect or leg reflects lowered inertial potential since it only appears if matter lowers potential. If matter gains potential the speed of light leg disappears. The speed of light leg is connected to the ground state of the universe. Matter has to lower potential for this leg to appear via the photon.  To fully reach the ground state at the speed of light, the inertial leg of the photon also has to lower potential to zero; red shift toward infinite wavelength.

[Bored chemist]

In today's installment of Puppy power gets things wrong he says

Yet, even though all photons travel at the speed of light, they do not all show the homogeneity of the point instant as predicted by SR.

In reality, SR makes no such prediction.
On the other hand

If you of the math, the speed of light aspect or leg reflects lowered inertial potential since it only appears if matter lowers potential.

doesn't make enough sense to even be wrong.

[puppypower]

In today's installment of Puppy power gets things wrong he says

Yet, even though all photons travel at the speed of light, they do not all show the homogeneity of the point instant as predicted by SR.

In reality, SR makes no such prediction.
On the other hand

If you of the math, the speed of light aspect or leg reflects lowered inertial potential since it only appears if matter lowers potential.

doesn't make enough sense to even be wrong.

Finite expressions of distance and time, such as the wavelength and frequency of visible light, make no sense in a speed of light reference. At the speed of light, the entire universe would appear to be point-instant and all wavelength would need to be contained in that point reference; homogeneous. Photons are not entirely in the speed of light reference, since they also show finite expressions of space and time that can only be seen and make sense in inertial reference. The inertia of photons is connect to the inertial reference leg affect and is not a speed of light reference leg affect.

Photons are a type of bridge phenomena between the speed of light reference and all inertial reference. Matter and mass, which are inertial affects, cannot travel at the speed of light according to SR. When matter lowers potential, photons are released and a bridge to the speed of light reference forms. Photons lose their inertial leg through the expansion of the universe; red shift. In the limit, photon wavelength will expand to infinite wavelength and the photon will approach the universal ground state at the speed of light; only one leg and a speed of light reference.

The question one may ask is how can higher potential matter form from the lower potential ground state at the speed of light?  It has to do with entropy. Entropy contains energy that is not entirely useable in inertial reference, The second law states that entropy has to increase and therefore entropy is forming a dead pool of unusable energy. This dead pool of energy is the potential within the speed of light reference; infinite entropy. Since this dead energy is not entirely useable by inertial reference it is not part of the traditional energy balance.  Based on the traditional inertial-centric energy balance the speed of light reference has least live pool energy, but the most dead pool energy, since live pool energy is an inertial leg affect and not a speed of light reference affect.

At the speed of light space-time breaks down such that time and space can act independent of each other. This precludes photons since they need space and time to be connected. One can move in time without space limitations and move in space without time limitations; omniscience and omnipresent, respectively. This allows for infinite variety, complexity and infinite entropy and dead pool energy. There is an infinite dead pool of potential, relative to what we call inertial reference, but there are no two legged photons at the speed of light, therefore zero live energy; ground state of the universe relative to all inertial centric references.

[Bored chemist]

in a speed of light reference.

That's the bit that makes no sense.
You keep saying it as if it means something.
It does not.

[talanum1]

So far, you have not even described it.

I described it at: New Theories, post: Quantum Gravity Follows? at the attachment: "Physics from Axioms clean.pdf" at reply #6 of the post.

[talanum1]

When photons form from the interaction of matter and force, they are born and appear at the speed of light with finite wavelengths and frequencies to reflect their dual nature.

By what mechanism?

Just like I need a method and equipment to pick up an object, the Universe needs a mechanism to emit photons.

[puppypower]

in a speed of light reference.

That's the bit that makes no sense.
You keep saying it as if it means something.
It does not.

You do not seem to know how to visualize from the POV of the speed of light reference. I will give you a hint. We know matter cannot go the speed of light, therefore visualizing the speed of light reference using moving matter; rocket ship approaching c, is the wrong approach. This will fall short. One has to go the other way; toward the ground state.

If we would see the universe as a point-instant at the speed of light, only infinite wavelength could be seen, since only this wavelength will not be seen as less than a point. While infinite wavelength, in internal reference, has almost zero inertial energy; approaches the c reference of the ground state.

When photons form from the interaction of matter and force, they are born and appear at the speed of light with finite wavelengths and frequencies to reflect their dual nature.

By what mechanism?

Just like I need a method and equipment to pick up an object, the Universe needs a mechanism to emit photons.

One possible way to explain the mechanism is with an experimental analogy. Say we had a wave tank with two wave generators, one on each side. The wave generators each generate the same size waves, but they are 180 degrees out of phase.  We are adding energy to the tank, from both sides, but the water in the tank appears to be still due to the wave cancelation. We have hidden energy. It is there, but hidden by the wave addition.   

To make the hidden energy appear, that is hidden due to the wave cancelation  we need to add a partition to the center of the water tank. If I place a board, of any length, in the stillness of the water wave tank,  a wave front will build on one side of the partition, and a different wave front will descend on the other side, since the wave generators are 180 degree out phase. The partition releases the hidden energy.

In the case of matter, waves and the release of photons of energy, the partition is the speed of light reference interacting with the hidden inertial waves. When this happens the two legged photon is at the speed of light,  rides the partition with an inertial energy leg.

In the case of the election and proton; + and - charge, to use an example, they are equal and opposition in terms of EM waves. There is stillness due to wave cancelation; quantum energy level, at least until the C reference partition appears, causing the photon to emerge at the partition at c.

In our wave tank, if I added a board as a partition, the side of the board with the building wave front will push the board in the direction of the sinking wave front. Photons go away from the positive nucleus toward the election cloud and beyond. There is difference between the two charges in terms of the timing and partition placement.

[Bored chemist]

Today's collection of meaningless/ undefined compound nouns from Puppy power:
"speed of light reference"
" ground state."
"point-instant"
" c reference "
"hidden energy"
" speed of light reference"

"internal reference"
"zero inertial energy"
" inertial energy leg."
" C reference partition"
And possibly a few I missed.

Please provide a clear explanation of what those phrases mean- using real physics.
Then we can examine the question of whether or not you are saying anything useful.

[talanum1]

Say we had a wave tank with two wave generators, one on each side.

The analogy does not hold. For water waves we have waves in matter made by matter. In the photon-emmision case, we have vibrations in the electron field that must translate into vibrations of the electromagnetic field.