[alancalverd]

Just had an interesting chat with an ex-paratrooper. When his group was called up for an emergency action they assembled on the training range at 0600, worked until lunchtime, then the four medics vaccinated 650 blokes in an hour and they were airborne by teatime. 

The army, pharmacists and GPs can all do what  they are told, but somebody has to tell them.   

[Glenballs]

Once this Oxford vaccine comes out next week and then blitzes the nation, can we then say the pandemic will be over once and for all, even boris said spring life will be normal again, and then no more face coverings and social distancing

I have lost count of the number of times you have asked the same basic question and the number of times you haven't liked the answers, so you've come back and asked again, hoping for a different answer. Here's the news: you can't get the answer you want.

Some probabilities: the virus will be with us indefinitely; the virus will periodically mutate significantly, requiring modified vaccines; the efficiacy of the vaccine (duration and effectiveness) may well be less than we hope for; local, even regional, lockdowns will be necessary to control outbreaks.
Because of this mask wearing and social distancing, albeit it on a slightly laxer scale, will become the new normal. Get used to it.

Boris Johnson and matt Hancock in the house of commons have reiterated that there will be the most vulnerable all vaccinated by mid February in the top 4 most vulnerable people groups, do you think its true

[alancalverd]

It's entirely possible but has only political significance - see reply #116 above.

Vaccinating the most vulnerable will reduce the headline daily death rate 3 months later, but will have negligible effect on the daily infection rate, which depends on the social mobility of carriers, nor on hospital admissions, longterm disability rates, or The Blessed Economy. These can only be improved by maintaining rigid quarantine until the entire population is vaccinated.

[Bored chemist]

Boris Johnson and matt Hancock in the house of commons have reiterated that there will be the most vulnerable all vaccinated by mid February in the top 4 most vulnerable people groups, do you think its true

The vaccination consists of two injections, 12 weeks apart- about 3 months.
They are starting in January.
What's the earliest they can possibly hope to finish?
(This isn't rocket science.)
On a side note, Boris and Hancock tell lots of other lies.

[Bored chemist]

syringe in hand

What size?

[Kryptid]

I don't know how things are going in the UK right now, but phase 1b in my state is apparently expected to start in February (which would probably make full immunity for most of that group be achieved in March or April). February is way too early, at least here, for everything to return to normal.

[Glenballs]

I don't know how things are going in the UK right now, but phase 1b in my state is apparently expected to start in February (which would probably make full immunity for most of that group be achieved in March or April). February is way too early, at least here, for everything to return to normal.
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I can see them easily vaccinating 13 million people way before mid February, I think it will be done by the end of this month. They have got everything in motion and are getting everyone involved In getting it done at lighting speed, at the press conference tomorrow I reckon they will say they have vaccinated 5 million people now so they are well on the way to completion

[Petrochemicals]

I don't know how things are going in the UK right now, but phase 1b in my state is apparently expected to start in February (which would probably make full immunity for most of that group be achieved in March or April). February is way too early, at least here, for everything to return to normal.
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I can see them easily vaccinating 13 million people way before mid February, I think it will be done by the end of this month. They have got everything in motion and are getting everyone involved In getting it done at lighting speed, at the press conference tomorrow I reckon they will say they have vaccinated 5 million people now so they are well on the way to completion

Are you Dominic Cummings? Despite them admitting that at best it will be 1 dose only each AND that that had had only 50 percent protection during trials. It is not gonna happen.

[Glenballs]

I don't know how things are going in the UK right now, but phase 1b in my state is apparently expected to start in February (which would probably make full immunity for most of that group be achieved in March or April). February is way too early, at least here, for everything to return to normal.
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I can see them easily vaccinating 13 million people way before mid February, I think it will be done by the end of this month. They have got everything in motion and are getting everyone involved In getting it done at lighting speed, at the press conference tomorrow I reckon they will say they have vaccinated 5 million people now so they are well on the way to completion

Are you Dominic Cummings? Despite them admitting that at best it will be 1 dose only each AND that that had had only 50 percent protection during trials. It is not gonna happen.

Explain to me why you think it's not going to happen, they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions so I don't see what's stopping them smashing that target way before mid February

[Bored chemist]

Explain to me why you think it's not going to happen,

What?
Again?

OK, but please try to pay attention this time.
The vaccination requires two injections 12 weeks apart.
There are not 12 weeks between now and February.
It is therefore impossible to vaccinate people before February.

The fact that Boris and co have lied about it doesn't change the nature of time.

[alancalverd]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

[vhfpmr]

syringe in hand

What size?

A good point. We don't know what size starting blocks will be required, either.

[vhfpmr]

I don't know how things are going in the UK right now

We've got South African Covid here in Essex now, and they aren't even sure the vaccine's effective against it. If they don't get their finger, out the virus will be several mutations further on before they've finished vaccinating for the first one.

[Petrochemicals]

Explain to me why you think it's not going to happen, they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions so I don't see what's stopping them smashing that target way before mid February

www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-55576788

One month in. Under 2 million vaccinated. One month to go.

[Glenballs]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

I have just seen the news conference with boris johnson, Simon Stevens and the head of the army involved with vaccinating. I now I'm even more certain that they will have vaccinated 13 million by mid February and even the prime minister said they will work 7 days a week and work flat out till they get the job done. So that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned, they have even got 7 massive vaccination hubs doing the jabs nothing will go wrong it's bullet proof now. Set on stone

[Petrochemicals]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

I have just seen the news conference with boris johnson, Simon Stevens and the head of the army involved with vaccinating. I now I'm even more certain that they will have vaccinated 13 million by mid February and even the prime minister said they will work 7 days a week and work flat out till they get the job done. So that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned, they have even got 7 massive vaccination hubs doing the jabs nothing will go wrong it's bullet proof now. Set on stone

Do remember to check in in mid Feb.

[Glenballs]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

I have just seen the news conference with boris johnson, Simon Stevens and the head of the army involved with vaccinating. I now I'm even more certain that they will have vaccinated 13 million by mid February and even the prime minister said they will work 7 days a week and work flat out till they get the job done. So that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned, they have even got 7 massive vaccination hubs doing the jabs nothing will go wrong it's bullet proof now. Set on stone

Do remember to check in in mid Feb.

I'd even put money on it, I'd win myself a fortune. With every angle and all the stuff they have got in place, they wouldn't do all that thinking there going to fail would they, there expanding absolutely everything everywhere. I think they will get this done in the blink of an eye, 13 million sounds alot but it isn't really

[Bored chemist]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

I have just seen the news conference with boris johnson, Simon Stevens and the head of the army involved with vaccinating. I now I'm even more certain that they will have vaccinated 13 million by mid February and even the prime minister said they will work 7 days a week and work flat out till they get the job done. So that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned, they have even got 7 massive vaccination hubs doing the jabs nothing will go wrong it's bullet proof now. Set on stone

Twelve weeks is still longer than 5.

[Glenballs]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

I have just seen the news conference with boris johnson, Simon Stevens and the head of the army involved with vaccinating. I now I'm even more certain that they will have vaccinated 13 million by mid February and even the prime minister said they will work 7 days a week and work flat out till they get the job done. So that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned, they have even got 7 massive vaccination hubs doing the jabs nothing will go wrong it's bullet proof now. Set on stone

Twelve weeks is still longer than 5.

I'm not talking about the 2 jabs, I'm talking about them giving 1 vaccine to each 13 million people before mid February.  They aren't doing 2 because it's quicker to give 1 out to many millions of people so much faster that's why they are doing it

[Bored chemist]

they are getting millions of doses each week and vaccinating millions

There is a difference between politics, where all numbers are equal if you want them to be, and real life, where they aren't.

I have just seen the news conference with boris johnson, Simon Stevens and the head of the army involved with vaccinating. I now I'm even more certain that they will have vaccinated 13 million by mid February and even the prime minister said they will work 7 days a week and work flat out till they get the job done. So that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned, they have even got 7 massive vaccination hubs doing the jabs nothing will go wrong it's bullet proof now. Set on stone

Twelve weeks is still longer than 5.

I'm not talking about the 2 jabs, I'm talking about them giving 1 vaccine to each 13 million people before mid February.  They aren't doing 2 because it's quicker to give 1 out to many millions of people so much faster that's why they are doing it

So, you are not actually talking about the vaccination.

This government essentially has failed to do anything right since it was elected.
Why do you imagine that this, enormously complex, project will be the one they get right?