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atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« on: 26/01/2021 23:39:12 »
Are the particles in the atom's nucleus made of the same substance as the space medium? And is the nucleus then an object or is it just a pit in space? Because if particles are then objects made of space medium, what's to prevent that medium from mixing in with the medium it sitting in? it s like mixing water with water. If particle's of matter were made of space medium AND sitting in it there would have to be a wall around the particle's to prevent them from mixing together. That seems impossible if the only thing that exists is the space medium and density's in it.
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #1 on: 26/01/2021 23:49:52 »
Subatomic particles have mass, but empty space doesn't. So I'd say they are not made of the same thing.
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #2 on: 26/01/2021 23:54:45 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 26/01/2021 23:49:52
Subatomic particles have mass, but empty space doesn't. So I'd say they are not made of the same thing.

How do two gravitational fields attract the objects creating them through space alone?
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #3 on: 26/01/2021 23:56:23 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 26/01/2021 23:54:45
How do two gravitational fields attract the objects creating them through space alone?

Gravity is space (well, distorted space-time, to be more precise).
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #4 on: 01/02/2021 17:26:21 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 26/01/2021 23:39:12
If particle's of matter were made of space medium AND sitting in it there would have to be a wall around the particle's to prevent them from mixing together

There is a kind of wall around particles: the electromagnetic-field around charged particles and the color-field around neutral particles. Photons and neutrinos are screened by a spin-field (possibly also a parity and C parity-field for the photon). Neutrinos also have Weak Isospin-field related to Weak Hypercharge-field.
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #5 on: 04/02/2021 21:33:47 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 01/02/2021 17:26:21
There is a kind of wall around particles: the electromagnetic-field around charged particles and the color-field around neutral particles. Photons and neutrinos are screened by a spin-field (possibly also a parity and C parity-field for the photon). Neutrinos also have Weak Isospin-field related to Weak Hypercharge-field.

Yeah but those are just fields in space created by the nucleus. similar to the electron shell. It seems like the universe may create it's own pit from all the matter within it, why this is uniform I don't know. But then the atomic nucleus pit could be created by a large number of smaller pits from within and reach down through infinity and outwards.
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #6 on: 05/02/2021 17:04:32 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/02/2021 21:33:47
But then the atomic nucleus pit could be created by a large number of smaller pits from within and reach down through infinity and outwards.

I don't know what "reach down to infinity and outwards" nor what the phrase means.
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #7 on: 05/02/2021 19:26:57 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 05/02/2021 17:04:32
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/02/2021 21:33:47
But then the atomic nucleus pit could be created by a large number of smaller pits from within and reach down through infinity and outwards.

I don't know what "reach down to infinity and outwards" nor what the phrase means.

Space is a singular object that the pit of nucleus sits in. Each pit has strength from much smaller denser pits from within that makes up the matter of that pit or universe. It then trickles down that way through infinite density's of matter. Space is thusly infinite in this way and doesn't break of at any point.
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Re: atomic nucleus isn't an object but a pit
« Reply #8 on: 05/02/2021 19:32:39 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 05/02/2021 19:26:57
Each pit has strength from much smaller denser pits f
That's nonsense.
Are you just not able to explain what you mean, or do you not actually know what you are trying to say?
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