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Where did covid 19 originate?

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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #400 on: 09/03/2021 05:27:30 »
Informative discussion. :)
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #401 on: 10/03/2021 01:01:52 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/03/2021 22:53:22
Quote from: Jolly2 on 08/03/2021 22:27:31
You dont know that,
I do know that the US military do a lot of drugs testing.
I checked.

Why did you lie about my knowing it?

🤣you're hilarious.
They may well test for drugs like cocaine and Marijuana,  that's  not the same as taking blood sample and then testing them for a virus. Just pure assumptions on your part as always.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/03/2021 22:53:22
Quote from: Jolly2 on 08/03/2021 22:27:31
All assumptions,
Yes

Oh it is a yes really.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/03/2021 22:53:22
and no.
I only had to show one way in which it was possible to prove that when you said this.

"Prove" 🤣

Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/03/2021 22:53:22
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/03/2021 00:25:47
I ponder how someone can claim they had been tested negative for a virus that didn't exist in October 2019.
you were missing the point that it was perfectly possible for it to have happened

No it was not possible for someone to have have a covid 19 test in Oct 2019.

And again you ignore the possibility that the athletes could have caught the ancestor virus of covid.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/03/2021 22:53:22
And thus this
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/03/2021 00:25:47
Melina Westerbergis clearly being misleading
is a lie.

No it's an opinion.  And an opinion I currently believe matches reality better then your assumptions. I see you keep up the lie rubbish and avoid the reality you lied about people not knowing the illiness of flu, in the 1900s, so desperate to score points?

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Quote from: Jolly2 on 08/03/2021 22:27:31
As always you propose simplistic answers to more complicated issues.
A simple solution is the one which evaded you.
Remember?
You said this
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/03/2021 00:25:47
I ponder how someone can claim they had been tested negative for a virus that didn't exist in October 2019.
Quote from: Jolly2 on 08/03/2021 22:27:31
Which you dont, hence you keep on trolling.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 07/03/2021 20:41:11
Do you realise that pointing out when you are wrong and or dishonest isn't trolling?

The only person engaging in being wrong and dishonest is you.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #402 on: 10/03/2021 01:02:30 »
Quote from: patriciacorse007 on 09/03/2021 05:27:30
Informative discussion. :)

Thanks

When not interrupted by trolls we sometime get somewhere.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #403 on: 10/03/2021 10:49:15 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 10/03/2021 01:01:52
No it was not possible for someone to have have a covid 19 test in Oct 2019.
Nobody said they did.

If you think that anyone said they did please quote it.
Otherwise admit you are the troll  writing nonsense.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #404 on: 10/03/2021 10:52:09 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 10/03/2021 01:01:52
The only person engaging in being wrong and dishonest is you.
This
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/03/2021 00:25:47
Melina Westerbergis clearly being misleading

is a lie which you told.

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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #405 on: 10/03/2021 10:53:10 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 10/03/2021 01:01:52
No it's an opinion. 
It is stated, by you, as fact.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #406 on: 10/03/2021 10:54:37 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 10/03/2021 01:02:30
Quote from: patriciacorse007 on 09/03/2021 05:27:30
Informative discussion. :)

Thanks

When not interrupted by trolls we sometime get somewhere.
I presume that's ironic.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #407 on: 11/03/2021 17:27:31 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/03/2021 10:52:09
Quote from: Jolly2 on 10/03/2021 01:01:52
The only person engaging in being wrong and dishonest is you.
This
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/03/2021 00:25:47
Melina Westerbergis clearly being misleading

is a lie which you told.

Quote from: Bored chemist on 10/03/2021 10:53:10
Quote from: Jolly2 on 10/03/2021 01:01:52
No it's an opinion.
It is stated, by you, as fact.


How exactly Is it stated as a fact? I am questioning, what test she had, or if she had any test at all?
You are the one Claimimg you know what test she had. Which is a statement of fact, which none my positions are.

And you start talking about lies, then we can talk about your lies that no one 1900s knew that the illness of Flu existed or your lie that Bats were the intermediary in which covid 19 evolved. While you have lied repeatedly I have not, while you spend your time leading personal attacks against people, which has caused some to refuse to discuss with you. While you add nothing to the actual discussion and persist in dragging the topic of discussion away from their actual  theme to discuss nonsense, All the time you do that I will hold that you are a troll and here for little more then to prevent an actual discussion happening and desire all topics you engage in to be closed down as all trolls do.


As others have done and I have stated many times I will. I am no longer going to engage with you, I would ask you stop pestering myself and all other that no longer wish to engage with you.

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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #408 on: 11/03/2021 17:31:34 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 17:27:31
then we can talk about your lies that no one 1900s knew that the illness of Flu existed

Please quote where he said that. To my memory, what he actually said was that no one knew that the flu was caused by a virus.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #409 on: 11/03/2021 18:21:07 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 17:27:31
How exactly Is it stated as a fact?

It is stated like this
Quote from: Jolly2 on 07/03/2021 00:25:47
Melina Westerbergis clearly being misleading

There's no qualifier there.
Now "I think that" or "I wonder if".
No smiley to indicate that it's a joke.

Just a bold statement as a fact.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #410 on: 11/03/2021 18:21:34 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 17:27:31
You are the one Claimimg you know what test she had.
I never made that claim.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #411 on: 11/03/2021 18:23:17 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 17:27:31
. I am no longer going to engage with you,
Since I'm a member of this forum, that means you are leaving.
Bye.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #412 on: 11/03/2021 19:03:09 »
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. I am no longer going to engage with you,
Since I'm a member of this forum, that means you are leaving.
Bye.

Can't someone cease to engage with you, without being forced to leave the forum? 


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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #413 on: 11/03/2021 19:42:16 »
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. I am no longer going to engage with you,
Since I'm a member of this forum, that means you are leaving.
Bye.

Can't someone cease to engage with you, without being forced to leave the forum? 



Not if they follow the rules, and if they don't follow them, then they will get kicked out.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #414 on: 11/03/2021 19:59:44 »
Have you the power to kick people out? 
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #415 on: 11/03/2021 20:02:00 »
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Have you the power to kick people out? 
No.
Did you read the rules of the forum when you signed up?
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #416 on: 11/03/2021 20:13:53 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 11/03/2021 17:31:34
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 17:27:31
then we can talk about your lies that no one 1900s knew that the illness of Flu existed

Please quote where he said that. To my memory, what he actually said was that no one knew that the flu was caused by a virus.

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They will tell you that nobody even knew what the flu virus was in 1919 because it wasn't identified until 1933.

He says it there in black and white a NOBODY KNEW WHAT THE FLU VIRUS  WAS.

And It's an irrelevance to the point that I was making, we all knew of the illness of influenza.

And scientists could still have conducted experiments on people sick with influenza. His claim is that experimentation was Impossible because flu had not been identified.

While the virus itself may well not have been identified the sickness of flu was well known, hence I consider his position deceptive.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #417 on: 11/03/2021 20:15:18 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 20:13:53
He says it there in black and white a NOBODY KNEW WHAT THE FLU VIRUS  WAS.

That's because it was discovered in 1933.
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #418 on: 11/03/2021 20:17:22 »
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Have you the power to kick people out? 
No.
Did you read the rules of the forum when you signed up?

Nobody reads them. If you don't mind me saying so, BC, aren't you getting a bit like a new Stalin, in your bossiness.

No offence meant.  I do appreciate the power of your intellect.  But don't overdo it.  Only the moderators have power to eject people.  And you're not a moderator, by your own admission.

So please calm down.  Just overwhelm people with your superior mind. 
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Re: Where did covid 19 originate?
« Reply #419 on: 11/03/2021 20:19:18 »
Quote from: Jolly2 on 11/03/2021 20:13:53
And scientists could still have conducted experiments on people sick with influenza.
Let me know how the ethics cttee reacts to that.
There's also the fact that they didn't actually know for certain that there was an infectious agent.


More importantly, you still fail to understand the point I made ages ago.
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