[Jolly2 (OP)]

So, 4 pages on, and no actual evidence of a rigged election.
Perhaps we could close the thread.

The discussion was related to this article.

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

A cabal that suppressed information,  employed electoral workers, changed laws, and claimed they were fortifying democracy. 

However as I argued previously their definition of democracy is the second definition of democracy listed by noam chomsky where the people are to be kept from power the media is to be heavily controlled.

Their claims to fortifications under the first definition of democracy are a complete lie.

[alancalverd]

The reports never listed not enough evidence to know they made claims that the suggestion had been investigated and proven false, which is actually fake news.

GCSE English 2021
1. How many negatives in that sentence?  (5 marks)
2. What does it mean? (5 marks)
3. How does it make you feel? (no marks, but we have to look as though we care)
4. Compose an apology, rebuttal, explanation or defence, whichever seems appropriate. (10 marks)

[Jolly2 (OP)]

The reports never listed not enough evidence to know they made claims that the suggestion had been investigated and proven false, which is actually fake news.

GCSE English 2021
1. How many negatives in that sentence?  (5 marks)
2. What does it mean? (5 marks)
3. How does it make you feel? (no marks, but we have to look as though we care)
4. Compose an apology, rebuttal, explanation or defence, whichever seems appropriate. (10 marks)

"Whatever"

The news stories shared made claims that were not correct.  As the article Kyriptid pointed out, there was insufficient information to actually find out if the dog had voted, as such all the stories claiming an investigation has proven the suggestion false, were incorrect, and so fake news.

[alancalverd]

So the evidence of a rigged election seems to boil down to a wholly improbable and unsubstantiated cock and bull story about a canine serial impostor, with no indication of which way she may or may not have voted, or how.

I guess that's marginally more important than police racism or presidential incompetence, in the minds of Republican morons. Never underestimate the stupidity of the electorate.

[Bored chemist]

as such all the stories claiming an investigation has proven the suggestion false, were incorrect, and so fake news.

As were the ones who started the stupid story by saying the dog did vote.

Since there's no evidence that it happened, and there's evidence that it would be essentially impossible, we can actually conclude that it almost certainly didn't happen.
We can also conclude that the people who started the story would have known that.
So we can conclude that they were lying.

And guess what; they are Trump supporters.

[Bored chemist]

2. What does it mean? (5 marks)

Do I really get five marks for saying it means sod all?

[alancalverd]

Of course. This is GCSE, and nobody is allowed to fail. 

[Jolly2 (OP)]

So the evidence of a rigged election seems to boil down to a wholly improbable and unsubstantiated cock and bull story about a canine serial impostor, with no indication of which way she may or may not have voted, or how.

I guess that's marginally more important than police racism or presidential incompetence, in the minds of Republican morons. Never underestimate the stupidity of the electorate.

No the evidence for a rigged election aside from the Claims of Fraud, which are still disputed.  Is the confession by the Cabal that did it.

So, 4 pages on, and no actual evidence of a rigged election.
Perhaps we could close the thread.

The discussion was related to this article.

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

A cabal that suppressed information,  employed electoral workers, changed laws, and claimed they were fortifying democracy. 

However as I argued previously their definition of democracy is the second definition of democracy listed by noam chomsky where the people are to be kept from power the media is to be heavily controlled.

Their claims to fortifications under the first definition of democracy are a complete lie.

The women and claimed 'civil rights activist' who approached Facebook and Twitter to assist in "managing" information for the election, is now working in the Biden administration

[Bored chemist]

No the evidence for a rigged election aside from the Claims of Fraud, which are still disputed.  Is the confession by the Cabal that did it.

So, it's only in your head...?

[Jolly2 (OP)]

No the evidence for a rigged election aside from the Claims of Fraud, which are still disputed.  Is the confession by the Cabal that did it.

So, it's only in your head...?

Apparently not, many alternative journalists and even The MAGA leader who shall not be named have also Cited the article as clear evidence of a rigged election.

Just the law changes alone, caused the election to swing to Biden, the massive amount of poll workers the Cabal employed doesn't really help either.

Then there is also the suppression of the New York post story about Hunter Biden that the Cabal had suppressed intentionally as part of their confessed conspiracy.  Facebook Twitter and all the mainstream media except Fox news refused to publish the Hunter Biden Corruption information as a direct expression of their bias towards supporting a Biden victory. The Cabal literally suppressed all negative news about Biden and proliferated negative news about Trump, they held back information about the progress of the Vaccines until Trump had lost the election, amoung other things.

And as a great kicker, some of the people involved in this confessed conspiracy have now been given jobs in the Biden administration.

[alancalverd]

Look, we know the election was rigged. Trump said he had rigged it.
The question is why, in addition to all his other failures, he managed to lose the election he had rigged in his favor.
The problem is that nobody cares, because he lost, so he can be prosecuted for all his other misdemeanors.

[Bored chemist]

people involved in this confessed conspiracy

Which only exists in Jolly's head...

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Look, we know the election was rigged. Trump said he had rigged it.

So did the Cabal in the Time magazine piece.

The were in their own words fortifying the election,  and fortifying democracy.

By massively controlling the media suppressing negative news about Biden to assist his election.

To quote chomsky again

"Let me begin by counter-posing two different conceptions of democracy. One conception of democracy has it that a democratic society is one in which the public has the means to participate in some meaningful way in the management of their own affairs and the means of information are open and free. . . .

An alternative conception of democracy is that the public must be barred from managing of their own affairs and the means of information must be kept narrowly and rigidly controlled. That may sound like an odd conception of democracy, but it’s important to understand that it is the prevailing conception"

The "democracy" the Cabal were fortifying was the latter.

"even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.

....
I get it, you don't care, so goodbye democracy,  the elites all hate it anyway. Let's all blow them some more. Cowards the lot of you.

[Bored chemist]

To quote chomsky again

Why bother?
Trump was controlling the means of information (How many press secretaries did he get through. Who invented this "alternative facts" concept as a disguise for lies?)

So what you are saying is that both sides rigged the election
Well, if they both rig the  election then they both win.
That's what rigging an election means; winning by cheating.

So, in your definition, political broadcasts are antidemocratic.

Indeed, this thread is antidemocratic.. By calling me a troll, you are seeking to control the means by which information is spread.
You are part of the cabal.

So why not stop?

[alancalverd]

Never mind Chomsky, definitions of democracy, or anything else. Trump said he rigged the election, said he would win by a landslide, and lost. Either he was a liar or he was incompetent, and nobody wants either as a president. End of story.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Never mind Chomsky, definitions of democracy, or anything else.

Anyone that cares about democracy which you clearly don't seem to, should mind.

Trump said he rigged the election,

Citation

said he would win by a landslide, and lost. Either he was a liar or he was incompetent, and nobody wants either as a president. End of story.

But it isnt the end of the story even if you want it to be,  Trump is already saying he will run again in 2024.

And while people like yourself no doubt believe it was a good thing they stole the election to remove Trump. I'll counter pose that Biden is a worse president by far, who is literally going to increase all the issues that lead to Trump victory in the first place.

More corporate governance,  more tyranny, less democracy, and all the issues of corporate greed, that supress wages, damage the environment, consistent promoting fake news and constant wars, with increases in impoverishment for the general population are all going to get worse.

Biden serves the Corporate swamp and everything else can get stuffed.

[Bored chemist]

Anyone that cares about democracy which you clearly don't seem to, should mind.

I care enough about democracy to call out Trump's attempts to rig the election.
Why don't you?

[Bored chemist]

Biden serves the Corporate swamp

You spelled "Trump" incorrectly.
Just about the only campaign promise that Trump kept was to reduce taxes on the swamp.
Obviously, I'm not so naïve that I think Biden is independent of corporate greed, but Trump is a corporation.

[charles1948]

Biden serves the Corporate swamp

You spelled "Trump" incorrectly.
Just about the only campaign promise that Trump kept was to reduce taxes on the swamp.
Obviously, I'm not so naïve that I think Biden is independent of corporate greed, but Trump is a corporation.

Trump was the last best hope of America.

Now see what happens with Biden. 

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Biden serves the Corporate swamp

You spelled "Trump" incorrectly.
Just about the only campaign promise that Trump kept was to reduce taxes on the swamp.
Obviously, I'm not so naïve that I think Biden is independent of corporate greed, but Trump is a corporation.

Simply not true, he talked about no more wars, and he started none, he talked about reducing immigration and he did. Biden is now about to give 34 million illegal immigrants citizenship, that's gonna help increase wages isnt it.