[Aeddan]

Well done everybody.
I now have a grin on my face because of how conspiracy theories are delt with here.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Anyway it makes a change from blaming Monsanto for supplying sterile high-yield seed.,

Not really Bill Gates has rather large investments in Monsanto.

or Swaminathan and Borlaug for introducing industrial farming to India.

Jimmy Doherty famously pointed out that 85% of the population of Uganda work on the land, and starvation is rife, but less than 5% of the UK population grow food and the shops are full. The climate is, if anything, more favorable in Uganda. So what are they doing wrong? Nothing. What are we doing right? Everything. So why not export a bit of good practice?

Ok you want African countries to become neo colonial corporate tyrannies that benefit from the exploitation of other countries.  I don't think it will help.

[Bored chemist]

Anyway it makes a change from blaming Monsanto for supplying sterile high-yield seed.,

Not really Bill Gates has rather large investments in Monsanto.

or Swaminathan and Borlaug for introducing industrial farming to India.

Jimmy Doherty famously pointed out that 85% of the population of Uganda work on the land, and starvation is rife, but less than 5% of the UK population grow food and the shops are full. The climate is, if anything, more favorable in Uganda. So what are they doing wrong? Nothing. What are we doing right? Everything. So why not export a bit of good practice?

Ok you want African countries to become neo colonial corporate tyrannies that benefit from the exploitation of other countries.  I don't think will help.

I see you didn't mention the original idea of the thread in that post.
Have you realised it was a bit silly to claim that he has bought everything?

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Nice to see you are all eger for some gates funding.

...why would Bill Gates fund me?

Tell him you believe in eugenics like his father did, and that massively reducing the human population is the only way to say the planet.  Might help.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Anyway it makes a change from blaming Monsanto for supplying sterile high-yield seed.,

Not really Bill Gates has rather large investments in Monsanto.

or Swaminathan and Borlaug for introducing industrial farming to India.

Jimmy Doherty famously pointed out that 85% of the population of Uganda work on the land, and starvation is rife, but less than 5% of the UK population grow food and the shops are full. The climate is, if anything, more favorable in Uganda. So what are they doing wrong? Nothing. What are we doing right? Everything. So why not export a bit of good practice?

Ok you want African countries to become neo colonial corporate tyrannies that benefit from the exploitation of other countries.  I don't think will help.

I see you didn't mention the original idea of the thread in that post.
Have you realised it was a bit silly to claim that he has bought everything?

Excuse me, the suggestion of the thread is that bill Gates is intending to monopolies the entire planets food supply. Not that he actively achieved it but that he intends to

[Bored chemist]

He has also taken complete control over the entire planets seeds

No he hasn't.

Excuse me, the suggestion of the thread is that bill Gates is intending to monopolies the entire planets food supply.

No it isn't.
The suggestion is the claim in the first post.
And also where you doubled down on it.

Do you ever stop trolling? Seeds in your garden are not the issue, gates has taken control of all seeds involved in Farming.

[alancalverd]

Ok you want African countries to become neo colonial corporate tyrannies that benefit from the exploitation of other countries.  I don't think it will help.

So what's your solution?

[Kryptid]

Tell him you believe in eugenics like his father did

Well, I don't.

So why were you saying that I was eager for Gates funding?

[alancalverd]

Excuse me, the suggestion of the thread is that bill Gates is intending to monopolies the entire planets food supply. Not that he actively achieved it but that he intends to

If you are psychic, you may indeed know his intentions. But then you would be in a unique position to prevent him from doing anything, or even better, to get ahead of him and hold him to ransom. But you certainly wouldn't want anyone else to know what you know or what you are are doing, so your pronouncements here are either random guesswork or outright lies.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Ok you want African countries to become neo colonial corporate tyrannies that benefit from the exploitation of other countries.  I don't think it will help.

So what's your solution?

The only solution we stop suppressing Africa and allow them to develop.  Learning from our mistakes. Brith rates will naturally fall as they do in all developed countries when children survive.
They will all earn a better income, have better quality of life, and be more environmentally engaged, because it's with a certain level of social development and standard of living people naturally also start to care about their environment.

The entire issue in Africa stems from first world oppression and exploitation.

108.20 on

All comes down to the same problem,  the modern corporate system of greed, leads to massive pollution, and no company paying for their actual costs of business or having any interest in acting better with regards to the environmental damage they cause, combined with a desired to exploit and keep people impoverished (essentially for cheap labour) which leads to higher birth rates, less environmental concern and even hunger and starvation for the populations this is imposed on.

Busines practice is the biggest issue and they have the power, and with that power they seek to keep as much profit as possible, carry on regardless and force the populations to change, in a sad attempt to compensate for thier failure.
All an expression of corporate governance and tyranny. Rationally it's time to realise business and its telos should not be in power.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Tell him you believe in eugenics like his father did

Well, I don't.

So why were you saying that I was eager for Gates funding?

I wasn't, you asked "why would gates fund me?"

My postulation was merely that as gates funds so much science, many would be too scared to bite the hand that feeds them, even if he isnt now directly, he could in the future.

But clearly a scientist would never put money, before science.

[Kryptid]

I wasn't

Yes you were, because you said:

Nice to see you are all eger for some gates funding.

"All" would include me.

My postulation was merely that as gates funds so much science, many would be too scared to bite the hand that feeds them, even if he isnt now directly, he could in the future.

But clearly a scientist would never put money, before science.

And what does that have to do with me, specifically?

[Jolly2 (OP)]

I wasn't

Yes you were, because you said:

Nice to see you are all eger for some gates funding.

"All" would include me.

My postulation was merely that as gates funds so much science, many would be too scared to bite the hand that feeds them, even if he isnt now directly, he could in the future.

But clearly a scientist would never put money, before science.

And what does that have to do with me, specifically?

You're just being semantic, it's a turn of phrase, or figure of speech. Like saying "everyone knows". Its a given everyone doesn't mean everyone, it means a majority know.

What's more interesting is why your so sensitive about it.

[Kryptid]

What's more interesting is why your so sensitive about it.

Because I tend to be annoyed by conspiracy theory talk.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

What's more interesting is why your so sensitive about it.

Because I tend to be annoyed by conspiracy theory talk.

Wasnt a conspiracy theory it was a speculation that as Gates is so involved in funding science many scientists may hold back on criticism rather then risk a potential source of funding.

[Kryptid]

Wasnt a conspiracy theory

Saying that there is a realistic chance that Gates plans to starve everyone is very much a conspiracy theory.

[Bored chemist]

Surely there is anti trust legislation that could prevent this?

There are laws that would prevent this.
In order for him to circumvent those laws he would need the collusion of law enforcement. Someone would have to help him break those laws.

A group of people working together to break the laws is pretty much the definition of a conspiracy.

And yet we have the claim that this

Wasnt a conspiracy theory

.

Well, it very clearly is, and if Jolly doesn't understand that perhaps he should keep quiet.

[Jolly2 (OP)]

Wasnt a conspiracy theory

Saying that there is a realistic chance that Gates plans to starve everyone is very much a conspiracy theory.

Dont change the subject we were talking about scientists not criticising Gates.  Not his intention to monopolies food supplies.

And it's not a conspiracy that in the;African countries Gates was operating hunger increased 30%.  Not a conspiracy it's a horrendous reality.

[Bored chemist]

African countries Gates was operating hunger increased 30%

What happened in the ones where he wasn't operating?

[Bored chemist]

we were talking about scientists not criticising Gates.

I think you were.

I think it's fair to suggest that Bill Gates is a bare faced liar