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Is the earth really flat?

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Is the earth really flat?
« on: 03/03/2021 18:26:35 »
Hey guys,
it's an old topic and a am really not a flatearther.
But it's indeed a good question how the water stays on the round earth.
It should just fload down from the planet, right?
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #1 on: 03/03/2021 19:42:37 »
You have posted a lot of questions that you could get a quicker answer using Google.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #2 on: 03/03/2021 20:33:52 »
It stays on the Earth because of gravity.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #3 on: 04/03/2021 00:55:32 »
Quote from: scientist@work on 03/03/2021 18:26:35
Hey guys,
it's an old topic and a am really not a flatearther.
But it's indeed a good question how the water stays on the round earth.
It should just fload down from the planet, right?
Because "down" is defined by gravity and the Earth's gravity acts toward the center of the Earth.  Water tends to, if it can, flow "down hill", and "downhill" means closer to the Earth's center. (Of course, it can't flow all the way to the center because the bulk of the Earth gets in the way.)
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #4 on: 04/03/2021 12:23:55 »
Quote from: scientist@work on 03/03/2021 18:26:35
It should just fload down from the planet, right?
Down to where?
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #5 on: 04/03/2021 19:26:05 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/03/2021 19:42:37
You have posted a lot of questions that you could get a quicker answer using Google.

Are you trying to sabotage the site BC?  Of course everyone could get quicker answers using Google.

But wouldn't that render the Naked Scientists web-site completely redundant.  Except for the mutual pleasure of social scientific intercourse.  Isn't that what we all want on here, really.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #6 on: 04/03/2021 19:29:38 »
Quote from: charles1948 on 04/03/2021 19:26:05
Are you trying to sabotage the site BC? 
No, I'm trying to avoid the situation where no interesting questions can be found because they are buried under posts asking what is 2 times 3.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #7 on: 04/03/2021 19:44:55 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/03/2021 19:29:38
Quote from: charles1948 on 04/03/2021 19:26:05
Are you trying to sabotage the site BC? 
No, I'm trying to avoid the situation where no interesting questions can be found because they are buried under posts asking what is 2 times 3.

Well, that's bound to happen when a scientific website is opened up to the ignorant masses. 

The masses just bury it under an avalanche of stupid questions.   Isn't what's needed, a web-site conducted by serious scholarly persons, such as yourself.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #8 on: 04/03/2021 20:11:39 »
Quote from: charles1948 on 04/03/2021 19:44:55
Well, that's bound to happen when a scientific website is opened up to the ignorant masses. 
Not really.
Apart from anything else, we are all ignorant.

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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #9 on: 04/03/2021 20:55:56 »
@scientist@work
Hi there!
🙋
First off, No Question is Silly or Stoopid!
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Moving on...
As JANUS has Very Nicely & with utmost Simplicity explained, i do Not think anything more needs to be said.
👍

BUT...if You wish, You could personally consider FlatEarthers as beings who are possibly self hallucinating or self delusionally trying their Best to exist in the Fourth Dimension.
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Elaboration - Ever considered if the Universe is Flat or Round?
🤔
It's FLAT with Only a 0.4% margin of error.
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Consider a sheet of paper 1mm thick at one end & gradually tapering , while the other end's thickness is 0.95mm.

Now Consider a Blue ink Dot on that sheet of paper...& Ask Yourself...Is that Pale Blue Dot Round or Flat?
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P.S. - Nopes!
I am Not a FlatEarther, & i do Not support such delusionally hallucinating theories...But do remember, even a Dead Clock is Right once a day.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #10 on: 21/03/2021 23:20:15 »
Hi all
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I am Not a FlatEarther, & i do Not support such delusionally hallucinating theories...But do remember, even a Dead Clock is Right once a day.
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Twice, I believe,

In regards to the original post, consider when was the last time you replaced the battery's for your spirit level.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #11 on: 21/03/2021 23:50:40 »
Quote from: gem on 21/03/2021 23:20:15
Hi all
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I am Not a FlatEarther, & i do Not support such delusionally hallucinating theories...But do remember, even a Dead Clock is Right once a day.
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Twice, I believe,

In regards to the original post, consider when was the last time you replaced the battery's for your spirit level.

As regards spirit-levels, in the past they were simple devices.  Just a glass tube filled with greenish liquid, and on the surface of the liquid, an air-bubble.

This bubble could be observed against black-lines etched, or painted, on the glass tube. Thus enabling levelness to be established simply, and optically.  By just looking at it.  Without any electrical input from batteries.

Has this changed in modern times - are "spirit-levels" now electronic devices, which have to be fitted with batteries?

Is that progress?


 
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #12 on: 22/03/2021 08:29:12 »
Quote from: scientist@work on 03/03/2021 18:26:35
Hey guys,
it's an old topic and a am really not a flatearther.
But it's indeed a good question how the water stays on the round earth.
It should just fload down from the planet, right?
It's because the curvature of space time makes the edges impassable. You can sail into the edges for days and days yet the gods have set a spell there that mean non can leave middle earth and reach arda, water included.

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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #13 on: 22/03/2021 09:25:52 »
Any text book will tell you that missiles move in a parabolic path that only happens because the earth is flat and of infinite extent.
If the Earth was spherical they would take an elliptical path.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #14 on: 22/03/2021 10:46:25 »
@gem

Hello!
🙂

I was referring to an Analog Clock...which seemingly does Not have an A.M./P.M. marker...hence Your " Twice a Day " remark fits the Logic.
Hence You Win!
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YaaY!
(& here is ur deliciously sugary prize)
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Njoy & do Not share with others, plz follow Covid19 safety norms ok.
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P.S. - @syhprum
At first i could Not believe my eyez...U made dat statement?
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But after a second & third read...my peanut sized brain buffered d info in..." Sarcasm "
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U almost Got me there maan!
Ha Hah!
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #15 on: 26/07/2021 10:26:33 »
I think people get confused about the earth's orientation the truth is there is no top or bottom to the earth. The first thing kids see is a map or a globe of the earth and we always see the north as the top well that is not how the earth works. The earth is a sphere floating in space and it is only on earth that we can have a sense of up and down as we all experience this all over the earth. The reason that we maintain north as up is to maintain east as right and west as left. What would we do if the earth flipped its magnetic poles will we call south north will we place south at the top of the map. North-south east and west have no meaning in the universe it is a concept that is used for orientation and direction finding only. ps, The water stays in the ocean for the same reason it stays in your cup.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #16 on: 26/07/2021 11:36:06 »
There is indeed a defined orientation. Because the sphere spins, it has a unique axis that we label "north-south". Conveniently, one end points towards a fairly well fixed star, and we label that end "north". Nothing  to do with the magnetic pole, which is currently at around 86.400°N 156.786°E. Close enough for most navigational purposes in the UK but you need to add the local charted variation for a long flight.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #17 on: 26/07/2021 11:47:02 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/07/2021 11:36:06
There is indeed a defined orientation.
And it is this one.
You seem to have muddled the ideas of an axis and an orientation

* map south up.JPG (110.87 kB . 944x636 - viewed 9443 times)
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #18 on: 26/07/2021 12:02:32 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/07/2021 11:36:06
There is indeed a defined orientation. Because the sphere spins, it has a unique axis that we label "north-south". Conveniently, one end points towards a fairly well fixed star, and we label that end "north". Nothing  to do with the magnetic pole, which is currently at around 86.400°N 156.786°E. Close enough for most navigational purposes in the UK but you need to add the local charted variation for a long flight.
The well defined orientation is a man made concept that has been put into action as the north could have been called south and it will still work the same names are used so we know what and where is. If an alien ship is nearing earth do you think they will orientate the earth as we do arriving to earth from deep space the earth has no up or down or top and bottom.
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Re: Is the earth really flat?
« Reply #19 on: 26/07/2021 12:35:11 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 26/07/2021 12:02:32
The well defined orientation is a man made concept
Orientation (which way to hold the paper map) is a man made convention. Which direction is north is not.

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If an alien ship is nearing earth do you think they will orientate the earth as we do arriving to earth from deep space the earth has no up or down or top and bottom.
Yes they will. They will label the six directions (NSEWUD) with their own words for them, and those six words will correspond precisely with ours, not some random directions.
Any planet very much has an up, which is away from the center, and down being towards the center.

Which way is north on some planets sometimes depends on a precise definition of your convention. Is it defined by the spin? (North is always the direction of the angular momentum (another human convention)), or does the sun always rise in the east (a convention that doesn't work for the sun)? They're opposite poles for some planets like Mercury.
There are websites that define the north pole of Venus on the side that violates both these definitions, which suggests a third definition somewhere such as the pole on the side of orbital north, which doesn't work very well with Uranus.
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