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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #60 on: 21/06/2021 10:58:47 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/03/2021 18:28:27
Rotating, the magma vortex under the volcanic mountain creates rarefaction. Due to this, a cork opens in the volcano's throat, and the air penetrates under the volcanic mountain.
And as soon as the ratio of magmatic gases and air reaches the desired proportion, an explosion occurs, and waves from the volcanic mountain scatter in different directions.
After the explosion in the center of the volcano, a vacuum is again formed, into which gases rush, as a result, the next explosion occurs.
The explosions are repeated as much as a combustible mixture comes.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #61 on: 21/06/2021 12:28:47 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/06/2021 10:58:47
The explosions are repeated as much as a combustible mixture comes.
Well, yes.
The combustible mix won't happen, and the explosions don't happen.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #62 on: 26/06/2021 15:53:48 »
During the volcano eruption, the gap between the two explosions is, from a few minutes to a year.
All this time, it is filling the focus of a combustible mixture volcano. https://uc.xyz/uojye?pub=Link
The culmination of the eruption of the volcanic Krakatau, occurred in the morning watches on August 27, at 5:30, 6:44, 9:58 and 10:52, when the grand explosions rang out.

Perhaps an earthquake, it is a volcano, which is erupted towards the nucleus of the Earth.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #63 on: 26/06/2021 16:28:00 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 26/06/2021 15:53:48
All this time, there is a filling of the center of the volcano with a combustible mixture.
Repeating it does not make it true.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #64 on: 26/06/2021 21:05:35 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 26/06/2021 15:53:48
During the volcano eruption, the gap between the two explosions is, from a few minutes to a year.
All this time, it is filling the focus of a combustible mixture volcano. https://uc.xyz/uojye?pub=Link
The culmination of the eruption of the volcanic Krakatau, occurred in the morning watches on August 27, at 5:30, 6:44, 9:58 and 10:52, when the grand explosions rang out.

Perhaps an earthquake, it is a volcano, which is erupted towards the nucleus of the Earth.
What utter crap.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #65 on: 26/06/2021 23:26:44 »
Gases move along the cracks that stretch from the continents to the seas, thereby forming seaquakes. https://uc.xyz/S6F82?pub=link
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #66 on: 27/06/2021 00:12:44 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 26/06/2021 23:26:44
Along the cracks, air can move into the sea, thereby forming - seaquakes.
https://uc.xyz/S6F82?pub=link
Utter crap
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #67 on: 27/06/2021 04:24:44 »
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The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long. For the vent to open, the plug of the volcano must move down and not up
I agree that the mouth of an extinct volcano is a cone of solid rock many kilometers long, forming a thick plug.
- The mouth of an actively-erupting volcano is a cone of molten rock several kilometers long; there is no plug.
- The mouth of an active (but not actively-erupting) volcano is a thin plug of solid rock over a chamber of molten rock several kilometers long.

For the vent to open, the thin plug of solid rock must melt from below (ie doesn't go up or down, it just melts in-place)
- or (frequently), the molten rock below forces a new path to the surface, forming a new vent, and forming a new cone

So there is no need for a large solid plug to move down, enabling an eruption.
- I have had the experience of visiting several volcanoes on the big island of Hawaii.
- From what I have seen, the level of liquid lava in the mouth of the volcanic cone does move up and down over time
- But it is possible for a new eruption vent to form in the mouth of an existing crater without the solid plug moving very much at all
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #68 on: 28/06/2021 09:02:15 »
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #69 on: 28/06/2021 11:11:51 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/06/2021 09:02:15
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.

At a depth of 20-30 km, there is also a line of equilibrium of pressure, magmatic gases and atmospheric air.
At a depth of 10 metres the pressure (at equilibrium) is over 1 bar.
At 20 Km depth,  a  full compressed air cylinder would be crushed by the temperature and pressure.
What do you think is forcing the air down to that depth?
Are you trying to blame the Devil's farts or something?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #70 on: 28/06/2021 11:31:45 »
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At a depth of 20-30 km, there is also a line of equilibrium of pressure, magmatic gases and atmospheric air.
I am not sure how atmospheric air gets down that far... (Oops - overlap with BC)

Are you saying that it is more explosive below 30km, or less explosive above 20km?
- "Equilibrium" implies that it is not explosive between 20 & 30km??

Quote from: USGS
the magma chamber that is currently under Yellowstone... is believed to be about 40 by 80 kilometers across.... The top of the chamber is about 8 km deep and the bottom is around 16 km deep.
Given that Yellowstone has been the source of major explosive eruptions over the past few million years, clearly it doesn't need to be that deep to cause major devastation.

See: https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/questions-about-yellowstone-research
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #71 on: 28/06/2021 14:36:50 »
Water at temperatures and pressures above its critical point, will change phase from the liquid state, into a hydrothermal state of water. This phase of water is an aggressive solvent for the earth crustal materials. It becomes more and more aggressive as temperature and pressure increase. Water contained in pockets and pool that can maintain pressure will eat downward following the thermal gradient for ever increasing solubility; entropy driven.

Hydrothermal water also becomes a very strong organic solvent, that can grind down fossil fuel into CO2. This is a process technique used to disable harmful cancer causing chemicals, into inert CO2. Hydrothermal water, inside the earth, may well  contribute to the green house gases via its unique organic decomposition reactions. I hope this is in the computer models since it can be done in the lab like the greenhouse gas simulations?

At the even higher temperatures and pressures of the upper mantle, hydrothermal water changes phase into what is called superionic water. This is loosely similar to semi-free oxide and hydrogen protons. Superionic water is nasty stuff, with a sudden pressure drop causing it to explode, as it phase changes back from superionic and mineral complexes, into supercritical water. Water at the hydrothermal-superionic phase boundary; mantle/crust, is the grease and boom for continental plate movement and a source of targeted pressure induction for volcanos. Crust subduction can increase the equilibrium toward superionic. The opposite; crust rising, will get a powerful boost from the energy release of the water phase change. We get more mountains than craters.

The current models ignore many of the latest and exciting discoveries about the earth. For example, is everyone aware that a large ocean of water was found below the crust, the size of the Arctic Ocean? Also a large scar was found on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, where the mantle is exposed. One theory is something blew a hole in the ocean floor crust, all the way down to the mantle. This could also have been due to a mantle water spring. Both of these observations are consistent with the hydrothermal/supercritical water phase boundary.

Water can theoretically, eat its way to the core of the earth, driven by the increasing pressure and temperatures changes and the resultant phase changes.  As such it is likely that water defines the layers of the inner and outer earth based on the position of the water phase boundaries. Experiments have even shown that water will become a metal at the temperature and pressure assumed for the earth's core. Speaking of the earth's core, it was found that it rotates faster than the surface. The core laps the surface once every 400 years. This is slow but orders of magnitude faster than plate movement. The core rotation should be part of the equation.

What was also discovered was that the inner materials of the earth are denser north to south compared to east to west. From pole to pole seismic waves travel faster than through the earth at the equator, even if you normalize the differences in distance; factor out the bulge. The earth rotates and this is used to explain why the earth bulges at the equator, but nobody assumed that the bulge was at least partly due to the equators inner earth materials being less dense.

One explanation offered is that may be due to the magnetic field. However, other data has shown that the earth's magnetic field can wander and even reverse, with the earth never changing the direction of rotation. The magnetic field may contribute but there is something else.

The current consensus theory does not explain these latest data. That theory should be down graded and moved to alternate theory, unless politics leads science. This could be possible since they control the money, and nobody with a large money investment of tax payers dollars wants to have egg on their face. It also means there is room for new ideas.

A new theory that I developed several years ago is connected to water being common throughout the outer and inner earth, from the atmosphere to the core. Experiments to collect data for the extreme phases of water show that the temperature and pressures of phase boundaries at similar to independent estimates in the inner earth layers. It is reasonable to conclude a parallel.

Water's extreme phases, at very high temperature and pressure; hydrothermal, superionic, ionic and metallic, more than likely define the layers of the inner earth.  These can move with time, such as the crust getting thicker with cooling. We call these layers crust, upper mantle, lower mantle/outer core and core in favor of the minerals, but water as the multiple personality solvent, defines the state of minerals at various phase conditions.

The equator is the place on the earth of maximum sunshine; solar energy. This evaporates water, at the maximum rate on earth and causing positive charge to build in the atmosphere, as at the maximum rate due to water. This adds an extra water potential that is transmitted to the core at the highest rate at the equator. The movement of water downward will lower the density of the mineral material more at the equator. The positive charge in the atmosphere also sets a potential with the iron core. There is a potential for the negatively charge electrons of iron, which can be transmitted by the water phases to the surface water. Water is rusting the iron core and releasing energy and electron, driven by the sun.This shows up at the surface as the alkaline pH of the oceans. During thunderstorms electrons will be directly extracted from the surface of the earth.

The theory proposed by Yusup Hizirov has potential for crustal dynamic, using this water theory as the foundation. This especially true at the phase boundary between hydrothermal and superionic water. Tweaks in pressure can transmit lots of energy via phase change chain reactions. The current theory is too stuck in the past, and does not have the proper new tools in place to account for all the newest discoveries.






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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #72 on: 28/06/2021 17:38:09 »
Apparently there's no thread so bad that PP can't make it more wrong.

Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
Hydrothermal water also becomes a very strong organic solvent, that can grind down fossil fuel into CO2.
No, it can't.
Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
This is a process technique used to disable harmful cancer causing chemicals, into inert CO2.
No
If you read the stuff correctly you would see that supercritical water is used as a solvent but the actual reaction of the toxics is the reaction with oxygen in solution.
You might find it easier if you used teh right word.
Hydrothermal means something else.
Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
Hydrothermal water, inside the earth, may well  contribute to the green house gases via its unique organic decomposition reactions.
Nope.

Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
Water can theoretically, eat its way to the core of the earth
No, it reacts with the iron before it gets there.

and so on...
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #73 on: 28/06/2021 18:19:09 »
Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
The theory proposed by Yusup Hizirov has potential for crustal dynamic, using this water theory as the foundation. This especially true at the phase boundary between hydrothermal and superionic water. Tweaks in pressure can transmit lots of energy via phase change chain reactions. The current theory is too stuck in the past, and does not have the proper new tools in place to account for all the newest discoveries.
Nice try Aqualad.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #74 on: 28/06/2021 21:32:13 »
Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
Hydrothermal water also becomes a very strong organic solvent, that can grind down fossil fuel into CO2. This is a process technique used to disable harmful cancer causing chemicals, into inert CO2.
What utter pseudoscientific nonsense.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #75 on: 28/06/2021 23:00:02 »
Quote from: puppypower on 28/06/2021 14:36:50
The theory proposed by Yusup Hizirov
It's not a theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results.


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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #76 on: 30/06/2021 08:40:09 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/06/2021 09:02:15
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #77 on: 30/06/2021 09:02:12 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/06/2021 08:40:09
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/06/2021 09:02:15
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
What do you think is "pumping" the air down there?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #78 on: 30/06/2021 10:35:12 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/06/2021 08:40:09
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/06/2021 09:02:15
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
Why is this idiocy in New Theories? It is not a new theory, it is utter nonsense with the OP not engaging with comments and posting increasingly outlandish nonsense. It is trolling and should be moved/locked.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #79 on: 30/06/2021 10:37:38 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 30/06/2021 09:02:12
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 30/06/2021 08:40:09
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/06/2021 09:02:15
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
What do you think is "pumping" the air down there?
Pressure.
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