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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #20 on: 18/04/2021 12:43:06 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 18/04/2021 01:05:19
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 17/04/2021 20:53:30
After strong earthquakes, the seismic wave envelopes half of the globe, I suppose, only the seismic wave-tsunami is capable of it, which moves under the crust of the Earth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1897_assam_earthquake
Is it anything like a disco inferno?

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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #21 on: 20/04/2021 17:50:41 »
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #22 on: 20/04/2021 18:04:15 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/04/2021 17:50:41
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
Are you trying to compete with yourself you post the most stupid statement?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #23 on: 20/04/2021 18:07:39 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/04/2021 17:50:41
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
I taped a firecracker to a rubber ball and blew it up.  I then filled my kitchen sink with water, submerged a rubber ball in it and stabbed it with a steak knife.  The experiment showed both of those are possible.  So in your world does that mean lava hurricanes exist or not?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #24 on: 20/04/2021 19:35:10 »
Quote from: The Spoon on 20/04/2021 18:04:15
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/04/2021 17:50:41
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
Are you trying to compete with yourself you post the most stupid statement?
He's going to have to work hard to beat (or explain) the cinnamon one.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #25 on: 21/04/2021 08:03:04 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 20/04/2021 19:35:10
Quote from: The Spoon on 20/04/2021 18:04:15
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/04/2021 17:50:41
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
Are you trying to compete with yourself you post the most stupid statement?
He's going to have to work hard to beat (or explain) the cinnamon one.
Maybe he thinks Dune is a scientific text?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #26 on: 21/04/2021 18:30:33 »
Quote from: Origin on 20/04/2021 18:07:39
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/04/2021 17:50:41
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
I taped a firecracker to a rubber ball and blew it up.  I then filled my kitchen sink with water, submerged a rubber ball in it and stabbed it with a steak knife.  The experiment showed both of those are possible.  So in your world does that mean lava hurricanes exist or not?
I hope no one was hurt by the experiment.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #27 on: 21/04/2021 18:55:11 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 21/04/2021 18:30:33
Quote from: Origin on 20/04/2021 18:07:39
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 20/04/2021 17:50:41
The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
I taped a firecracker to a rubber ball and blew it up.  I then filled my kitchen sink with water, submerged a rubber ball in it and stabbed it with a steak knife.  The experiment showed both of those are possible.  So in your world does that mean lava hurricanes exist or not?
I hope no one was hurt by the experiment.
No, but your idea was brutally killed.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #28 on: 22/04/2021 20:59:31 »
The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #29 on: 22/04/2021 21:38:05 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 22/04/2021 20:59:31
The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
Great fun, I'm sure.
But not much to do with earthquakes.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #30 on: 24/04/2021 12:41:02 »
Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust, before the main earthquake, due to rarefaction between the earth's crust and magma.
Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main earthquake.
Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
Stalactites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite
https://images.app.goo.gl/r5vbu3yMhya1c1pdA
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #31 on: 24/04/2021 12:51:42 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 24/04/2021 12:41:02
Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
Depends on what sort of bar you are in.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Aftershock&prmd=sivn&sxsrf=ALeKk01aNq0UdIbEEsUXk37YZlfnv1bQOQ:1619264987480&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=2WYnWeYptW6seM%252CPJOKL5AmBAsjkM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTdCyLnvQRDy3zgL0DnuCkTHUl3kA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjot4CT6JbwAhViRxUIHX_fDhcQ9QF6BAgiEAE&biw=1920&bih=937#imgrc=2WYnWeYptW6seM
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #32 on: 24/04/2021 14:49:47 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 24/04/2021 12:41:02
Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust due to rarefaction between the earth's crust and magma.
Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main earthquake. Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
Rarefaction? Can you explain exactly what you mean by this?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #33 on: 26/04/2021 19:50:35 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 26/04/2021 18:17:46
Magma vortex hypothesis of earthquakes.
Community of Russian Scientists. https://vk.com/rosuch

Rotating, the earth's crust carries away magma, due to which dozens of magma vortices are formed, which move along the equator following the earth's crust.
Magma vortices move relative to the earth's crust with variable speed, sometimes stopping, similar to cyclones and anticyclones. Blocking anticyclones. http://meteoweb.ru/2018/phen20180730.php
Magma vortices are one of the mechanisms of the Earth's thermoregulation.
A cyclonic magma vortex is a magma vortex that throws magma up from the center of the Earth.
Anticyclonic magma vortices, on the contrary, draws in magma from the upper layers of magma and send it to the center of the Earth.
Magma vortices, creating pressure and rarefaction between the earth's crust and magma, are one of the causes of vertical stress in the earth's crust.
A similar natural phenomenon is observed in the seas and oceans, when a whirlpool rotates under the ice. https://images.app.goo.gl/3sRSRbVsEbWtMoVY6

When a number of factors coincide, magma vortices are transformed into a tornado, due to which the tornado from the earth's crust sucks in gases and air. And as soon as the ratio of gas and air reaches the desired ratio, an explosion occurs.
Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of an electric discharge, contact of magma with a combustible mixture, or from spontaneous ignition of a compressed mixture.
Waves from the source of the earthquake diverge in all directions, then return back to the source, due to which there are repeated shocks.
The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
The intensity of earthquakes can be expressed by the following formula. A = m / h.
Where m is the mass of the combustible mixture.
h is the depth of the combustible mixture.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano
Harbingers of earthquakes:
1. Underground hum, tremors of the earth, change in the level of groundwater.
a) At the epicenter, the groundwater level may decrease and along the perimeter of the epicenter, rise.
2. Above the epicenter of a future earthquake, there may be changes in geophysical fields (magnetic, electric, gravitational, etc.).
3. Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust before the main earthquake, due to rarefaction, between the earth's crust and magma.
Stalactites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite
https://images.app.goo.gl/r5vbu3yMhya1c1pdA
4. Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main earthquake.
Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
The manifestations of volcanic earthquakes are almost indistinguishable from tectonic earthquakes.
In Japan, an explosion of volcanic gases shattered a mountain 670 meters high.
In Indonesia, an explosion of a combustible mixture destroyed half of the volcano and caused an earthquake in several cities and there are quite a few such facts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa
90 percent of volcanoes are located in seismically active zones. https://uc.xyz/QbLhw?pub=link
Geyser https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geyser_animation.gif

The geological activity of the planets depends on the diameter, axial and orbital velocity of the planets.
Geologically active are: Earth, Jupiter, Ceres, Enceladus, Io, etc. The geological activity of Venus and Mercury, due to the slow axial rotation, is extremely low. http://www.evgengusev.narod.ru/spb/zhirnov-2011.html
It is possible that solar activity is the result of the geological activity of the Sun, and sunspots are funnels of magma vortices. https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/ru/pomoshch/chto-predstavlyayut-soboy-solnechnye-pyatna.html
The reason for the axial rotation of the Earth is cyclones and anticyclones, which move in the direction of the general transport of air, from west to east.
https://meteoinfo.ru/ugryumov/2926-ugryumov-perenos
Due to the rotation of the Earth, centrifugal force acts on the Earth's crust, but due to the orbital rotation of the Earth, the centrifugal force of the Earth oscillates, due to which the earth's crust moves.
It is also possible that the volume and mass of the Earth grows over the years.
As we can see, the weather above the Earth's crust depends on the speed and direction of rotation of cyclones, anticyclones, and the weather under the Earth's crust depends on the speed and direction of rotation of magma vortices. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_Alley
Everything is relative!
A water tornado in a matter of minutes draws in thousands of tons of water, and a magma-vortex tornado, I believe, is more massive and powerful.
All physical processes that occur in the atmosphere occur in the ocean and in the Earth's mantle.
"The laws of nature are universal." Lao Tzu.

Criticism of the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes.
1. Why do earthquakes occur both at the junction of tectonic plates and in the center of the plate?
2. The statement that tectonic stress is accumulating in the Earth's crust raises doubts. (This can be easily verified by putting experience).
3. Lithospheric plates cannot have the properties of a spring or rubber.
4. Vibrations from earthquakes are transmitted in the form of seismic waves over a distance of more than 10 thousand km.
a) Then why do seismic waves not provoke earthquakes in other regions of the Earth? https://www.bbc.com/russian/russia/2013/05/130524_okhotsk_earthquake_reaches_moscow
b) Why does an underground nuclear explosion not provoke earthquakes?
5. As a rule, volcanoes and earthquakes occur mainly in the foothills, why are they practically absent high in the mountains and far from the mountains?
a) Perhaps the intensity of earthquakes depends on the ability of the earth's crust to pass gases; it is possible that it is higher in the foothills.
6. According to the magma vortex hypothesis of earthquakes, a seismic tsunami wave moves under the Earth's crust.
And according to tectonic theory, a seismic wave moves in the crust of the Earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_wave
7. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire
8. After large earthquakes, a seismic wave goes around half of the globe, I believe that only a seismic tsunami wave, which moves under the crust of the Earth, is capable of this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1897_Assam_earthquake
9. A volcano is a valve for dumping volcanic gases.
The statement that a volcanic eruption is the result of an increase in magma pressure does not correspond to reality, since the greater the magma pressure, the more tightly the vent closes.
The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long, and to open the mouth, the plug must be moved down and not up. And for this, you need to create a vacuum.
10. The assertion that the plates move due to the temperature drop in the bowels of the Earth is questionable.
11. It is also doubtful that the plates can sink into the planet's mantle and reach the depths of the outer core.
12. If the lower lithospheric plates easily sink into the Earth's mantle, then during the creeping of the plates, the lower plate should easily sink down.
13. It is believed that the depth of the hypocenter reaches 700 km.
Questions arise:
a) How do the plates interact at such a depth, given that the continental crust is about 30 km thick and the oceanic one is 5 km thick?
b) How does the mechanism of transmission of seismic waves work, from the source to the epicenter at a distance of 700 km?
c) According to the magma-vortex theory of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicenter (pleistoseist region) depends on the diameter of the magma gate and reaches 100 km. and according to the tectonic theory of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicenter depends on the depth of the source and should be more than 1000 km.
What will be the diameter of the epicenter if the depth of the source is 700 km?
14. You can carry out a simple experiment if you move two rubber or wooden plates towards each other in a pool with water.
Continuation: Forum of Akademgorodok Novosibirsk.
Such a long post with so many claims that are factually incorrect. 8ncluding the claim about thickness of earth's crust which I pointed out previously is wrong. Also, you bizarrely put in the word stalactite with a link to a picture which is very obviously not a stalactite. You keep posting the same crap yet ignore comments. Why?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #34 on: 26/04/2021 20:11:12 »
This is a difficult hypothesis.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #35 on: 26/04/2021 20:17:29 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 26/04/2021 20:11:12
This is a difficult hypothesis.
It is nonsense. The stuff you post to support it is factually incorrect. Your link to 'the science' is no such thing but a link to a forum where you post your ridiculous ideas and appears to be sponsored by porn sites.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #36 on: 27/04/2021 15:39:03 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 27/04/2021 15:28:35
When a number of factors coincide, magma turns are transformed into a tornado, due to which the tornado sucks gases and air from the earth's crust. And as soon as the ratio of gas and air reaches the desired ratio, an explosion occurs.
Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of an electric discharge, contact of magma with a combustible mixture, or from spontaneous ignition of a compressed mixture.
The waves from the source of the earthquake diverge in all directions, then return back to the source, due to which there is a second shock.
https://youtube.com/shorts/1TIY6ZoV-Jk?feature=share
(After the explosion, a void is formed in the source of the earthquake, into which magma rushes).
Utter, unhinged nonsense. Why do you post this when it only makes you look foolish?
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #37 on: 28/04/2021 22:56:24 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 27/04/2021 15:28:35
When a number of factors coincide, magma vortices transform into a tornado, and sucks gases and air from the earth's crust.
And as soon as the ratio of gas and air reaches the desired proportion, an explosion occurs, due to which the waves from the earthquake source scatter in different directions.
After the explosion, a void appears in the earthquake source into which magma rushes quickly, for this reason, a second shock occurs.
Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of:
1) contact of magma with a combustible mixture.
2) electric discharge.
3) from self-ignition of the compressed mixture.
A gas / air mixture will only explode if its flammable gas content is between the lower and upper explosive limits.
https://chem21.info/info/1574373/
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #38 on: 29/04/2021 00:19:40 »
Quote from: Yusup Hizirov on 28/04/2021 22:56:24
A gas / air mixture will only explode if its flammable gas content is between the lower and upper explosive limits.
Correct, but that has nothing to do with earth quakes.
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Re: Earthquake - the result of an explosion of magmatic gases
« Reply #39 on: 29/04/2021 10:25:25 »
The coordinates, epicenter and hypocenter of the first and repeated jokes may not coincide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/epicenter
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