[Europa (OP)]

https://www.theguardian.com/science/occams-corner/2013/sep/19/science-religion-not-be-questioned

 https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/excellent-beauty/201710/is-science-religion

Well, as we all know, science doesn't work like that. Scientific research gets trapped in more box canyons than the Lone Ranger; does more U-turns than the average government; falls to certain death more often than Wile E Coyote; has more women in it than you might at first imagine (though probably not nearly enough); and generally gets the wrong answer.

[Origin]

Go away troll.

[Kryptid]

Science isn't a religion. In my experience (which obviously is not all-inclusive) many of those who claim that it is are mostly complaining about things that they don't understand properly. They think one or more of the widely-accepted theories of our time have obvious flaws that should render them obsolete and thus believe that those scientists who accept them are being irrational. In reality, those critics very often have misunderstandings which lead them to that conclusion. There are vast swaths of misinformation spread across the Internet about relativity, the Big Bang theory and evolution in particular that have convinced people who don't know better of their falsehood.

[Colin2B]

Well, as we all know, science doesn't work like that. ..... and generally gets the wrong answer.

Science is far better at getting right answers than a religion. Those answers are also consistent and can be used to build devices like the one we are using to post these messages.
Science is continually updating itself based on new information which religion does not. That updating is often a source of confused thinking by those who see it as science continually getting it wrong.
Issac Newton made some excellent observations and derived very useful mathematical descriptions of those observations, the fact that we now have more accurate descriptions does not nullify the usefulness of those original descriptions and it is right that they should be defended against misinformation from pseudoscientists who, for example, don’t even understand Newton’s theories.
Science advances by speculation (religion does not) and that is why we have a New Theories section for those who wish to speculate and sections like this for those wishing to understand currently accepted ideas.

[alancalverd]

Religion: the business of answering questions and telling people how to live, with no supporting evidence.

Science: the business of questioning the answers and finding out how life works, based entirely on evidence.

I've just spotted a must-have T-shirt: "every disaster movie begins with someone ignoring a scientist"

[Bored chemist]

People support science because ti saves lives.

The difference is simple.
In science, if an experiment shows that the textbook is wrong, you change the book and publicise the outcome.
In religion if an experiment shows that the textbook is wrong you ban the experiment  and lie about the outcome.


What I'd like to know, and perhaps the OP can help me here, is why people don't see that difference?

[Kryptid]

Go away troll.

Actually, I think it's a good thing to discuss this. It can help clear up some misconceptions for those that are willing to learn the difference.

[Bored chemist]

for those that are willing to learn the difference.

He's not.

[obie]

If the Earth blew up as you read this and all knowledge of any religion is eradicated then those religions are gone forever.All the rules that contain and enable the universe remain.Science .

[trushinalexander49]

Genuine science is based on HONEST (speculative) умозрительные reasoning. And умозрение is not speculation as it unfortunately sounds in English, but it is constructive provisions on which further experiments are based. Woe to those who separate science from Love and Truth, and even more so to those who assert that honest science does not exist. And yes, I am a representative of the Russian Classical Mathematical School and I am ready, if anyone wants to, constructively discuss a lot, while the pragmatism of thoughts and the absence in them, in a sense, arbitrariness in science is a plus to honesty, and not a minus, like many, unfortunately are misunderstood.

[Petrochemicals]

Because the world is full of nutters who think God talks to them in their head.

[Bored chemist]

Would a better question be, "Given that religion is not based in fact, why is it defended as if it is?"?

[alancalverd]

Sex. Money. Power.

[Zer0]

Fame...Fortune...Drugs...etc etc.
(Nodal points)

What is the Root?
Pleasure?

Saint Mother Teresa was Selfish?
Her work pleased her.


PS - Wats wit da constant putting of
" Science vs Religion "
Who spreadz al dis BS hatred?

[Just thinking]

Didn't know. How can U tell? Why was s/he banned?

He or she? for talking too much rubbish and posting inappropriate images.

[Zer0]

I suppose this OP is over & out.
Good Riddance!
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But i feel like making a statement...

In School, when my Teacher said 1 + 1 = 2.
I never Objected.

Our Solar System then, had Nine planets.
I could hardly remember the names, but still, i never Objected.

The Earth is Round.
I never flew outta space in school.
But I Believed!

For me, it started with Blind Faith... Believing whatever my Teachers taught me.
& Now i am in a position to logically analyse n realize all that as True!

Why do Religious folks start doubting their GOD?
Why do they want GOD to be logical & predictable... isn't GOD supposed to Act in mysterious ways.

Ps - Never ever in a Book of Science did i read " G is non existent ".
And most Holy Books showcase Divinity can bend & break the " Laws of Physics ".
Why are both these Streams of knowledge so Opposed to each other?

I mean, can't a gentle catholic man be a computer software programmer?

Can't a Quantum Physics professor Not visit a church n pray n ask for blessings n wish for world peace?

There seems to be a Group of Intolerant & Uncompromising Barbaric Individuals who seem to be creating all the Ruckus.
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GOD would ideally want US(children) to do Well.
😇
SCIENCE is the Key towards Prosperity.
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So whoos havin a prob wit all dis?
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[alancalverd]

Can't a Quantum Physics professor Not visit a church n pray n ask for blessings n wish for world peace?

To do so would violate his fundamental religious belief that his god created the world and all within it.

I don't make things that don't work, and I'm only a human tinkerer with limited skills, knowledge and resources. An omniscient, omnipotent being that can create anything out of nothing, surely wouldn't create a world that was not to his liking?

Every prayer for healing, peace, or indeed any change in the status quo, is telling said Being that he has screwed up and is not fit to be worshipped.  Prayer is the denial of faith.

[Just thinking]

Why do Religious folks start doubting their GOD?
Why do they want GOD to be logical & predictable... isn't GOD supposed to Act in mysterious ways.

I think God knew that his creation would have problems as a result of us receiving free will prayer can help correct our bad decisions.

[alancalverd]

I think God knew that his creation would have problems

I don't build things with obvious flaws. I'd expect better of an omnipotent and omniscient creator.

If she just wanted to see what happens when you let idiots run free, there's no point in praying for her to change anything, and "correcting your own decisions" would be contrary to the Will of God, and therefore a Sin.

[Just thinking]

I don't believe science, politics, or God is a religion. I think all three institutions are places to rest our hopes and desires. Most people have good intentions whether looking to their leaders or the leaders looking to us. If every aspect of life run smooth and perfect we would have little to discuss on few topics. Mistakes and bad decisions are a part of life and act as a resistance to strengthen and learn as a bodybuilder pushes weight to build muscle mental mistakes give our mind resistance to learn. The human brain is no computer it is a self developing and learning miracle it arrives in the world with a small bit of ability how to feed and how to get attention the brain is the steering wheel for the vehicle that it has. Science, politics, and God are tools that we can draw on to develop learn and negotiate life with. I believe all three of the mentioned powers are very real and very useful to those that choose to utilize them in their lives.