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Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were

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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #80 on: 26/09/2021 12:14:29 »
Would it be unreasonable to say that science finds what religion claims God made from the beginning, if we assume that God made everything from the beginning? (any God/religion)

What I mean is if one really found out how reality is really made, either...
...one found how to make everything...as described in religion using the word God, and can...really make everything...which for now to me at least seems unlikely (very...unlikely...)
...or one found how reality is something else than what we humans imagine, as reality had to be made before humans were really made, and humans are free to try whatever they like, but it isn't true that whatever humans try to do, really makes sense?

...which brings me to my conclusion, am I making any sense with the above?
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #81 on: 26/09/2021 12:41:03 »
Quote from: Miketube on 26/09/2021 12:14:29
Would it be unreasonable to say that science finds what religion claims God made
Hi, Mike welcome to the forum your thoughts on this subject are quite interesting and fit with my way of thinking to some degree. Hope to hear from you around other subjects maybe even your own.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #82 on: 26/09/2021 14:31:38 »
And what made your god?
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #83 on: 26/09/2021 14:40:24 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/09/2021 14:31:38
And what made your god?
They say he/she has always been.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #84 on: 27/09/2021 16:25:00 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 26/09/2021 14:40:24
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/09/2021 14:31:38
And what made your god?
They say he/she has always been.


Thanks & Credits - DarkMatter2525/YouTube.
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(Explicit Content, Not for Minors & Believers.)

SideNote - Hi J_T
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We seem to have different opinions, but i like the level of tolerance & maturity You reflect.
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But bomb strapped head choppin fanatics doo!
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #85 on: 27/09/2021 16:45:25 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 27/09/2021 16:25:00
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Very interesting but this goes against always was. Always was is one and the one always is. This video presents a mirror aspect to one. The only aspect is one no smoke and mirrors.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #86 on: 27/09/2021 23:58:14 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 26/09/2021 14:40:24
Quote from: alancalverd on 26/09/2021 14:31:38
And what made your god?
They say he/she has always been.
And how do they know that?
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #87 on: 28/09/2021 11:12:47 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 27/09/2021 23:58:14
And how do they know that?
I don't know it may have been just a saying.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #88 on: 28/09/2021 12:12:40 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 28/09/2021 11:12:47
Quote from: alancalverd on 27/09/2021 23:58:14
And how do they know that?
I don't know it may have been just a saying.
May be they just think they know, or pretend to know to gain authority or some credential over their audiences.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #89 on: 28/09/2021 12:56:02 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 27/09/2021 16:45:25
Always was is one and the one always is. This video presents a mirror aspect to one. The only aspect is one no smoke and mirrors.
Did you realise that what you posted makes no sense?
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #90 on: 28/09/2021 13:17:13 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2021 12:56:02
Did you realise that what you posted makes no sense?
I think I forgot to stop drinking last night but my point is that the video represents a very witty but opposite point of view to a God that has always been. I will keep of the bottle for a while.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #91 on: 28/09/2021 13:20:39 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 27/09/2021 16:25:00
SideNote - Hi J_T
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Thank you ZerO for your kind words. I found the video very interesting and funny.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #92 on: 29/09/2021 15:44:11 »
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Hi again J_T!
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Must say, your Responses are very very interesting.
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You seem like someone who has the Ability, or Power of Reasoning...& At the same time, Capability of Believing.
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(Dats a rarity nowadays)

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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #93 on: 29/09/2021 16:36:32 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 29/09/2021 15:44:11
You seem like someone who has the Ability, or Power of Reasoning...& At the same time, Capability of Believing.
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(Dats a rarity nowadays)
Hi Zero thank you for your recognition you to must have fine qualities as most people fail to see or recognise the traits in others. I have always been one to overlook the small things that bothersome others but it makes the world interesting and a challenge negotiating the vast nature in all of us.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #94 on: 30/09/2021 06:06:48 »
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Tia believes in the Christian God. She goes to a Christian school where she's learned a lot about different theories and evidences from the Bible. This belief makes sense to her and she has a feeling that it's really true.
Can someone help her answer the last questions?
Perhaps you can skip to 7:40.
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #95 on: 30/09/2021 07:07:24 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 30/09/2021 06:06:48
Can someone help her answer the last questions?
Perhaps you can skip to 7:40.
Yes, she could have replied having faith in one's god is proof to one's self not proof to anyone else. As faith is to believe and trust.
« Last Edit: 30/09/2021 11:29:00 by Just thinking »
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #96 on: 30/09/2021 11:25:37 »
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Tia believes in the Christian God.
Photographic evidence? Fingerprints? Any other evidence consistent with her hypothesis? Any contradictory evidence?

Belief is acceptance in the absence of evidence, and is of no interest or consequence to anyone else unless you use it as an excuse for bad behavior..
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #97 on: 30/09/2021 14:36:22 »
Quote from: Just thinking on 30/09/2021 07:07:24
Yes, she could have replied having faith in one's god is proof to one's self not proof to anyone else. As faith is to believe and trust.
Are we living in a multiverse? Her god is true for her, while other's gods are true for themselves?
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #98 on: 30/09/2021 23:10:08 »
Quote from: Halc on 30/09/2021 15:33:00
No, that would be faith. Belief is acceptance in the presence of evidence.
Too weak.

Knowledge is acceptance in the light of evidence, belief is acceptance in the absence of evidence, and faith is acceptance in the face of evidence.

Hence "I know I have a terminal disease. I believe in an almighty and merciful god. I have faith that god will heal me."
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Re: Is science a religion.........well if not why is it defended as though it were
« Reply #99 on: 30/09/2021 23:50:42 »
What science finds God has done. I have faith in God and science. But when I die I will meat God, not science.
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