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Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« on: 02/08/2021 12:12:03 »
Quote from: Origin on 26/07/2021 18:07:51
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The simulation argument is generally attributed to Nick Bostrom.  It was presented as a Philosophy paper in about 2003.
I can see where this is a fun philosophy question, I fail to see how this is physics.
Maybe the universe is a simulation.    Maybe God created  the universe.  There is no evidence of either of those.

We create our own reality in the sense we perceive reality the way we expect or hope is should be.  For example, humans have viewed the universe in many different ways over the centuries. The BB was not the only simulation over the history of humans. Reality did not change, but our perception of reality changed with time.

Dark matter and dark energy were not always part of this current science simulation. Although this assessory package was offered decades in advance, but rejected early in BB simulation. Back then it was too perfect to be messed with. At each step of the way, the simulation that was in vogue; such as before using the dark matter and energy assessory package, was considered the true reality, until it is replaced by the newest truest reality with assessories. We have never seen dark matter or dark energy in the lab to know if this is real, or imaginary, but that does not matter since this is the newest truest reality.

The question should become, since consciousness is what accepts and rejects the latest truest reality, and the brain generates the neural matrix on which consciousness appears and/or flows, does the brain operate like a computer, or rather do computers try to mimic the brain, helping to add fodder for neural simulations?

Science fiction tends to use machines and average humans with fancy clothes and weapons in its simulations. In essence, it tries to factor out the brain and neural simulations. It appears the idea of neural simulation is scarier than assuming machines, with plugs, are responsible.You may not be able to unplugged the brain without unplugging yourself. Even the science fiction idea of moving consciousness and memory to a robot and/or computer is about the same fear. If the machine goes haywire we can replace it. Religion took the brain head on and explains the subroutines of the matrix; as coming from divine places; neural firmware,  and these control reality as we saw it.

As an example of large scale collective simulation via individual neural matrixes, consider US politics, starting in 2016. The Russian Collusion delusion simulation fooled half the American population into seeing reality in a strange and bizarre way. It was hard to convince them otherwise, until the simulation ran its course and was disrupted by hard reality. Sometimes these simulations are started in the brain's of diabolical people, who then infect others through unconscious transfer. It is good to know how the brain works, so you can stand outside these herd simulations and enjoy the spectacle. However, the crazy mob can do damage along the way.

A good example of how these simulations can even get the better of a common sense in common sense people, is the latest simulation from the American political left, that convinced their herd that defunding police in crime infested Democrat run cities, will make it safer. It sounds like I am making that one up, but look at the news.  Common sense data has not been able to clear the collective head of that simulation. The hard reality data is coming in, and this should work to help unplugged the simulation, but the program is still running for many. There are no machines involved and reality data is not enough to clear the head. Religion would blamed this on the firmware called Satan, which is one of the main matrixes for irrational and dangerous simulations.

These simulations are getting more common and appear to be assisted by machines such as computers, TV's and the internet. All the fake news seems to feed the Satan firmware where lies and illusions are easiest to induce. Science appears in the black about this, since the atheist simulation does not allow one to look, where you need to look, to see reality.

Another good example of this interconnected affect of technology and neuron inductionare guns and violence. Guns are inanimate objects yet many think guns control people from the outside, like smart machines in science fiction; rise of the robots. We need to fight and remove the gun robots to prevent them from firing by themselves. In reality the person who uses guns to get their way is living an internal simulation where might is right and the ends justify the means. This also comes from the Satan firmware, which has a connection to willpower and choice. Alternate simulations, apart from natural reality and instinct offers a matrix to leave instinct in favor of alternate choices even without knowing it. It can still feel real and natural to the unconscious person. They do bot think they have left but this is instinct to them; pathology that is a type of semi-natural choice via free will.
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Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #1 on: 02/08/2021 12:24:59 »
Quote from: puppypower on 02/08/2021 12:12:03
Russian Collusion delusion
It wasn't a delusion.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder


If you are going to force politics into a discussion of physics, get your facts right.

It won't be a bad idea to get the physics right too.
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« Reply #2 on: 03/08/2021 12:01:52 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/08/2021 12:24:59
Quote from: puppypower on 02/08/2021 12:12:03
Russian Collusion delusion
It wasn't a delusion.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder


If you are going to force politics into a discussion of physics, get your facts right.

It won't be a bad idea to get the physics right too.

The discussion was about living in a simulation. I extrapolated that to neural simulations since these are older and more common than computer simulations. As an example, I was pointing out the collective overreaction to something that was not even a crime. The crime was in fantasy only but it took hold because of fear and hate and appeasement of fear and hate. 

Biden and the Democrat run tech companies like FaceBook, colluded with China when they censored anyone who suggested the Corona virus came from a Chinese lab. That fantasy bubble has since burst due to evidence. That is also collusion, but collusion is not a crime, even though this particular collusion is concerning. The Democrats appear to be living in an alternate reality simulation, where there are two sets of rules, with the easier set created for them in their alternate reality; lords of the universe who make the rules. This is not an individual pathology but involves a group simulation matrix. This is not politics but the psychology of simulation politics.

The question is how is this possible? Current science cannot answer that question, since this type of simulation is not being generated by a machine. The brain does not exceed the laws of physics, however, it makes use of these laws, but in unique ways that are not common to machines. Neural simulation is scarier that machine simulation since there is no plug to unplug. It sometimes has to run its course.

Neurons and synapses are far more complex than semiconductors binary or tertiary switches. Neurons expend upwards of 90% of their metabolic energy pumping and exchanging ions at their outer membrane. This energy is used to lower entropy, by segregating sodium and potassium ions on either side of the membrane. These ions would prefer to spread out uniformly in water, but they are forced to segregate and isolate. This creates a chemical potential, which leads to firing. Firing is way to lower the indued increase in free energy. The energy intensive segregation of ions lowers the entropy at the membrane and sets an entropic potential. The 2nd law needs to act. Neurons need to fire, to release energy and increase entropy, adding complexity.

Semi-conductor memory is designed to be at lowest potential, so memory is stable for long term storage. We need to add energy to change memory. Neural memory is designed to energized and therefore designed to spontaneously want to change. Computers do not forget as easy as humans, however, humans are far more creative since a spontaneous change in memory is  inevitable unless we willfully reinforce memory. This dynamics is part of what we call consciousness. What smart computer true to due with software, neurons can do with hardware and firmware. Sensory input, for example, can trigger the firing of neurons, which increase entropy, adding complexity to what we sense. This can add new meaning that may not be already in memory.

Science is good at the hardware side of the brain, since we can dissect the brain and agree of what comes from what. However, it has limited understanding of the operating system and software/firmware of the brain, since that type of data has to be obtained from the inside, where the philosophy of science breaks down. Such data may not always be reproducible, since one is dealing in entropy changes and the state of mind of each researcher is not always the same. This is why terms like fate have appeared over the ages.  However, there are trends that are similar in humans so similar group fates can be induced via simulation.

The ancient people had their own neural simulations. The trick was not to avoid these, but to remain conscious and objective, while a simulation plays and not become fully engulfed by it. Such people saw trends and were able piece this together. Paradise of ancient lure was a type of simulation that was very natural and positive. However, a subroutine appeared that could depart from that, offering will and choice, via an alternate reality simulation that was not quite as positive. It was good and evil, and not just natural. I will explain the science behind this next time.
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Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #3 on: 03/08/2021 12:08:49 »
Quote from: puppypower on 03/08/2021 12:01:52
Biden and the Democrat run tech companies like FaceBook
Why do you say such stupid, incorrect things like this?

Well, of course you think time is a vector so....
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« Reply #4 on: 03/08/2021 12:59:41 »
Quote from: puppypower on 03/08/2021 12:01:52
colluded with China when they censored anyone who suggested the Corona virus came from a Chinese lab.
When do you imagine that happened?
There doesn't seem to be any evidence of it in the real world.

Quote from: puppypower on 03/08/2021 12:01:52
I was pointing out the collective overreaction to something that was not even a crime. The crime was in fantasy
if the crime was a fantasy, why did Trump pardon someone for it?


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However, it has limited understanding of the operating system and software/firmware of the brain, since that type of data has to be obtained from the inside, where the philosophy of science breaks down.
If that's true, you should stop your brain talking about things you say that it doesn't understand.
Quote from: puppypower on 03/08/2021 12:01:52
Semi-conductor memory is designed to be at lowest potential, so memory is stable for long term storage.
Factually wrong; most computer memory is volatile (to save power)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volatile_memory
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« Reply #5 on: 03/08/2021 13:02:07 »
Quote from: puppypower on 03/08/2021 12:01:52
I will explain the science behind this next time.
I'm betting against that.
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« Reply #6 on: 04/08/2021 12:13:27 »
There are two centers of consciousness, the inner self and ego. The inner self is older and is connected to natural instinct. The inner self is connected to the main frame part of the brain. The ego is much newer and is connected to the conscious mind.  It is more like a terminal that connected to the mainframe but with limited access.

If you believe humans evolved from apes, apes are instinctive and natural, while humans are not instinctive and natural but are a product of cultural conditioning. Theoretically, there was a transitional period where human lost instinct and the direct connection to the inner self that apes have. Instead a secondary center appeared called the ego, which is more an artifact of an external set of knowledge and conditioning.

Genesis in the bible deals with this transition and how this transition altered the simulations that became conscious; fall from paradise. One discovery made by science that aligns very well with he bible prediction of the beginning of this new simulation; formation of a heavens and earth, is the discovery that written language appeared about 6000 years ago. This invention altered how the brain processed data and created a repression from which an new subroutine would appear hat would solidify the ego center. This was connected to written law and knowledge of good and evil, as symbolized by the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Before the invention of writing one ha to depend upon memory since there was no written hard copy in terms of external reality. If you took ten people and had them witness an event, they will not all agree on what they saw and if we questioned them later some would alter what they aid they saw ands others would embellish. It has to do with how neural memory is designed for a spontaneous increase in entropy; add complexity. Once written appear the rules change and there was resistance to the natural flow of memory. One could make a bad law and it would have to followed since it was cast in stone. This had a regressive impact on instinct.

According to ancient traditions, written language was not exactly the problem since science depends on written language to help us remember physical reality. The problem was connected to a specific form of written language; knowledge good and evil or law.

The reason written law had such a regressive impact was connected to the way the brain writes to memory. When memory is written an emotional tag is written the sensory content. Our memory has both feeling and content. Our strongest memories have the strongest emotional tagging; marriage, first child, graduation, glory days, etc.,

The problem with written law was knowledge of good and evil create a memory with two conflicting tags; rest and fear. One gets to rest of you follow the law and fear if not.  Law is like wa two sided coin where one sides are there but we can only see one side at a time. However, the brain tries to double tag this with two conflicting tags. It was very repressive once carved in stone by written language side it left one in a state of tension and suspension. A modern example is a love and hate relationship where you want to leave but have to stay. One is left in an orbit. From this orbit a subroutine would appear that would help to solidify the ego.

The inner self will not want this constant energy drain so as a compromise it reprised one side of the law coin and made one side conscious. One can see the conscious side of the coin but the unconscious side of coin, although implied, is out of view. As ab example go the affect, the self  righteous in terms of the law will often justify evil in the name of good. Consciously they are dong good in their own mind; collusion delusion, but since this is a single coin, the dark side is also brought the surface and one can engage in shady behavior; ends justify the means in the name of what is right. This is connected to willpower and choice since instinct uses one emotional tag or each situation, while the Satan subroutine, to use traditions, uses somewhere between one and two, often without even knowing it.

Bored Chemist asked why Trump had to pardon someone if there was no crime. Law is made by those in charge and if criminals are in charge they can make law to punish the innocent. Pardon can neutralize this. Criminals making laws is common in dictatorships and Socialist regimes like the NAZI party. The Democrats see Socialism as their long term goal, where criminals can make laws and steal in the open, since it is deemed legal for them. Again this is due to internal simulations from the Satan subroutine.

Say one made a law where good is called evil and evil is called good. We will allow the evil to become conscious, since this is defined as good. The other side of the coin or good will be repressed all based no willpower. This will not coordinate with the inner self and instinct since they work morel like science; cause and affect, than fiction and fantasy simulation. The repressed good, called evil will appear; counter point of view such as the demonstrations in Cuba.

God's law is where good and evil align with natural instinct and the inner self and not the ego of self serving people who make law for their own ill gotten gain. The latter is the essence of all human atrocity driven by the Satan Subroutine. It is more complicated that this but the rest may be beyond common experience.

This was a first draft off the top of my head, this morning, and I didn't have time to edit. I have to go to work.

 
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Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #7 on: 04/08/2021 12:52:17 »
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
If you believe humans evolved from apes
Humans ARE apes.
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
Genesis in the bible
Not something you should even try to bring to a scientific discussion.

So, thanks for making it easy to say that I was right about this:


Quote from: Bored chemist on 03/08/2021 13:02:07
Quote from: puppypower on 03/08/2021 12:01:52
I will explain the science behind this next time.
I'm betting against that.


Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
It has to do with how neural memory is designed for a spontaneous increase in entropy;
Not really.
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
Bored Chemist asked why Trump had to pardon someone if there was no crime. Law is made by those in charge and if criminals are in charge they can make law to punish the innocent.

You only think that's an answer to my question because you are willfully blind to the truth.
If you are right then Trump was in charge and made the laws.

So why did he have to pardon someone?
If the man's action was moral, but illegal, he shouldn't have pardoned one man, he should have changed the law.


Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
Pardon can neutralize this.
That's absurd; anyone in a position to pardon someone should change the law so that it does not
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
punish the innocent.
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
Say one made a law where good is called evil and evil is called good.
That's what Trump called "alternative facts" and what anyone with any sense calls "lying".
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
Consciously they are dong good in their own mind; collusion delusion,
So, for example, they might kneel on black people's necks or  storm the Capitol...?


Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
The Democrats see Socialism as their long term goal, where criminals can make laws and steal in the open, since it is deemed legal for them.
I don't think I can point out the idiocy of that idea better tan you do in the next line.

Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
due to internal simulations from the Satan subroutine.

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God's law is...
Regularly improved upon by society.
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This was a first draft off the top of my head, this morning, and I didn't have time to edit.
Editing probably wouldn't help.
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Re: Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #8 on: 05/08/2021 15:47:42 »

Originally I was intrigued how many people, even esteemed scientists, are willing to believe in universal machines running a universal simulations. However, the idea of the brain doing this was  not part of the discussion.. We can at least prove there is a brain. While simulations are easy to see in pathology, where individuals live in their own reality; serial killer.  I will accept this detour from the main topic and focus on the pathology simulations of politics. This is where we get herd simulations which almost appear blue tooth connected into networks.

If you look at science, the philosophy of science requires we run repeatable experiments, by each other, to confirm theories about reality. This is easier to do if you have a lab and resources, it is harder to do, but not impossible without these. The philosophy tries to factor out emotional appeal and bigotry, so everyone can remain objective, until we all can seen and agree on the same objective reality. The past and future is not automatically right until the fat lady sings.

Politics is different in the sense that two political parties will exist, can look at the same data and physical reality but draw two different lingering conclusions. Often they do not wish to agree but rather bigotry and emotional appeal are part of the game. Politics is not the same as science, since it violates the philosophy of science, through the use of propaganda, slight of hand, emotional appeal and even peer pressure and bribery.

For example, in the USA, the Republican Party sees big government as a negative, while the Democrat Party sees it as a positive. I am not judging which is right or wrong, but rather pointing out the same physical reality seen in two ways with fewer moderates than extremists. This is connected to the binary that began with knowledge of good and evil. 

How is this possible, with science around, if science is designed to come to a focus? I would think that science would step in and make it objective by looking at the data. The difference has to do with emotions, which are not reliable in terms of coming to a single focus. It also has to do with law which can define anything as good or evil. Law is not science, but rather it can be based on what we wish and want it to be. This situation makes politics ripe for group neural simulations; wishful reality.

If you look at the Democrat versus Republican parties in the USA, the Republicans are called conservatives while the Democrats are called progressives. Conservative means conserving the past, while progressive means progress and appeals to the future. In terms of objective data, the past has more hard data than does the future. The past has already occurred in hard reality and it has left an imprint on physical reality, allowing one to retroactively see data trends and draw conclusions.

The future is not yet part of hard reality and therefore it is more imaginary and an easier matrix for neural simulations. There is not a lot of hard data about the future, to keep one objective as long,  so simulations, based on how we hope things will be, have more free reign.  The child has all their hopes and dreams in front of them unfettered by experience in practical reality, while the adult has the benefit of hindsight, which sets a vector for them. This can be happy or sad.

It is easier to look at the Democrat party to see simulations in action and how these can cloud the objective brain and cause emotional over reactions. This is the nature of the progressive's lack of future data. I am not saying both parties don't do the same thing, but one is easier to see and explain.

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Re: Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #9 on: 05/08/2021 16:51:19 »
Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
The philosophy tries to factor out emotional appeal and bigotry, so everyone can remain objective,
says the man who cited Satan and Genesis.
Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
Politics is different in the sense that two political parties will exist, can look at the same data and physical reality but draw two different lingering conclusions.
Commonly, one side finds the truth, and the other side finds "alternative truth", such as the idea that Trump's parade was bigger than Obama's.
This is the origin of the observation that reality has a well known Left wing bias.


Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
For example, in the USA, the Republican Party sees big government as a negative
No.
They say that, but it isn't what they do.
It's just misinformation, and you have fallen for it.
Both in the US and in the UK, Right wing parties are responsible for bigger deficits.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/07/republicans-pave-the-way-for-more-government-spending-higher-deficits.html

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/11/27/the-tories-created-two-thirds-of-the-uks-national-debt/

The idea that Right wing governments reduce public spending is probably the biggest "alternative fact" (i.e. lie).


But that's only to be expected.

If, and only if, you personally have enough money to pay for your own, and your family's  education, healthcare and retirement, should you vote for the government not to help pay for those necessities.
If you can't afford to pay for them then you should, obviously, seek to elect a government which will help you.

And very few people can afford it.

So it figures that very few people should vote to cut public spending.
So very few people should vote for Right wing parties.

The Tories, and the Republicans  know this.
They know that they should lose, lose, and lose again at the polls.

So they only have one option; they lie.

The remaining question is why do you support them?




Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
How is this possible, with science around,
Because the rich buy the elections.
For example, the Sun newspaper- while widely read, is not profitable.
It runs at a consistent loss.
The billionaire owners are happy to pay the cost of publishing a propaganda sheet under the guise of news.

In the US, the likes of Fox News perform the same function.
they masquerade as news but their point is to mislead people.

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T


Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
If you look at the Democrat versus Republican parties in the USA, the Republicans are called conservatives while the Democrats are called progressives. Conservative means conserving the past,
No
The terms conservative and liberal refer to government spending with Conservatives seeking to reduce it- by cutting government funded services, and the Liberals seek to expand expenditure.



Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
the past has more hard data than does the future.
And, as I explained, the Conservative, Right has to lie about it.

Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
It is easier to look at the Democrat party to see simulations in action and how these can cloud the objective brain and cause emotional over reactions.
Hogwash.
Quote from: puppypower on 05/08/2021 15:47:42
This is the nature of the progressive's lack of future data.
That's just silly.
Both parties have access to exactly the same data.
One party has to do things like  invent phrases like "alternative truth" or to hide in the fridge in order not to face questions.

But the other party hasn't the funding to overcome the billionaires' lies.

So why do you post on a science site in support of the liars?
« Last Edit: 05/08/2021 16:53:46 by Bored chemist »
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Re: Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #10 on: 05/08/2021 21:09:24 »
Quote from: puppypower on 04/08/2021 12:13:27
There are two centers of consciousness, the inner self and ego. The inner self is older and is connected to natural instinct. The inner self is connected to the main frame part of the brain. The ego is much newer and is connected to the conscious mind.  It is more like a terminal that connected to the mainframe but with limited access.

If you believe humans evolved from apes, apes are instinctive and natural, while humans are not instinctive and natural but are a product of cultural conditioning. Theoretically, there was a transitional period where human lost instinct and the direct connection to the inner self that apes have. Instead a secondary center appeared called the ego, which is more an artifact of an external set of knowledge and conditioning.

Genesis in the bible deals with this transition and how this transition altered the simulations that became conscious; fall from paradise. One discovery made by science that aligns very well with he bible prediction of the beginning of this new simulation; formation of a heavens and earth, is the discovery that written language appeared about 6000 years ago. This invention altered how the brain processed data and created a repression from which an new subroutine would appear hat would solidify the ego center. This was connected to written law and knowledge of good and evil, as symbolized by the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Before the invention of writing one ha to depend upon memory since there was no written hard copy in terms of external reality. If you took ten people and had them witness an event, they will not all agree on what they saw and if we questioned them later some would alter what they aid they saw ands others would embellish. It has to do with how neural memory is designed for a spontaneous increase in entropy; add complexity. Once written appear the rules change and there was resistance to the natural flow of memory. One could make a bad law and it would have to followed since it was cast in stone. This had a regressive impact on instinct.

According to ancient traditions, written language was not exactly the problem since science depends on written language to help us remember physical reality. The problem was connected to a specific form of written language; knowledge good and evil or law.

The reason written law had such a regressive impact was connected to the way the brain writes to memory. When memory is written an emotional tag is written the sensory content. Our memory has both feeling and content. Our strongest memories have the strongest emotional tagging; marriage, first child, graduation, glory days, etc.,

The problem with written law was knowledge of good and evil create a memory with two conflicting tags; rest and fear. One gets to rest of you follow the law and fear if not.  Law is like wa two sided coin where one sides are there but we can only see one side at a time. However, the brain tries to double tag this with two conflicting tags. It was very repressive once carved in stone by written language side it left one in a state of tension and suspension. A modern example is a love and hate relationship where you want to leave but have to stay. One is left in an orbit. From this orbit a subroutine would appear that would help to solidify the ego.

The inner self will not want this constant energy drain so as a compromise it reprised one side of the law coin and made one side conscious. One can see the conscious side of the coin but the unconscious side of coin, although implied, is out of view. As ab example go the affect, the self  righteous in terms of the law will often justify evil in the name of good. Consciously they are dong good in their own mind; collusion delusion, but since this is a single coin, the dark side is also brought the surface and one can engage in shady behavior; ends justify the means in the name of what is right. This is connected to willpower and choice since instinct uses one emotional tag or each situation, while the Satan subroutine, to use traditions, uses somewhere between one and two, often without even knowing it.

Bored Chemist asked why Trump had to pardon someone if there was no crime. Law is made by those in charge and if criminals are in charge they can make law to punish the innocent. Pardon can neutralize this. Criminals making laws is common in dictatorships and Socialist regimes like the NAZI party. The Democrats see Socialism as their long term goal, where criminals can make laws and steal in the open, since it is deemed legal for them. Again this is due to internal simulations from the Satan subroutine.

Say one made a law where good is called evil and evil is called good. We will allow the evil to become conscious, since this is defined as good. The other side of the coin or good will be repressed all based no willpower. This will not coordinate with the inner self and instinct since they work morel like science; cause and affect, than fiction and fantasy simulation. The repressed good, called evil will appear; counter point of view such as the demonstrations in Cuba.

God's law is where good and evil align with natural instinct and the inner self and not the ego of self serving people who make law for their own ill gotten gain. The latter is the essence of all human atrocity driven by the Satan Subroutine. It is more complicated that this but the rest may be beyond common experience.

This was a first draft off the top of my head, this morning, and I didn't have time to edit. I have to go to work.

 
I that is probably one of the most idiotic things i have read on here. There is stiff competition too - mainly from yourself with your other long winded nonsense.
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Re: Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
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It sounds like I am making that one up, but look at the news.
Which news?
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All the fake news seems to feed the Satan firmware where lies and illusions are easiest to induce.
Make sure you are not confused between the two.
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Another good example of this interconnected affect of technology and neuron inductionare guns and violence. Guns are inanimate objects yet many think guns control people from the outside, like smart machines in science fiction
Many other inanimate objects are dangerous, which is the reason why they are regulated. Think of dynamite, C4, Sarin, Plutonium, cars. What makes you think that guns are different?
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Guns are inanimate objects yet many think guns control people from the outside,
Name one of these "many".
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Re: Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
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These are the responses I hoped would come from the left; synchronicity. The responses are all based on too much emotional appeal and not enough calm rational analysis. What I wrote was yucky, so it has to be wrong. This will be a good starting point for why leftist are more vulnerable to group simulations, although it can impact all groups.

When the brain writes to memory an emotional tag is added to the sensory content. Our memory has both detailed content and a feeling tag. Our strongest memories will have the strongest feeling tones; marriage, first child, glory days, trauma, etc. This is useful for the natural animal since if they encounter the same scenario, and memory is triggered, they can act on the attached feeling without having to think. If the other critter was friendly, and that memory is triggered, they do not have to reinvent the wheel, but will feel friendship and approach.

In terms of the human brain, the two lateral hemispheres process data differently. The left brain is more analytical and 2-D, while the right brain is more emotional, symbolic and 3-D. Since our memory has attributes from both sides; content=left and feeling=right, both sides of the brain process memory at the same time, making the distinctions between left and right less clear cut.  However, with practice one can become more conscious in either side, when our memory is processed. The other side still plays, but is less conscious or even unconscious.

The difference between content and emotion, which run parallel when memory is written, is content has more detail and variety, than do emotions. Emotions are limited. That are limited by the number of chemicals used to generate these. Therefore, emotions tend to be recycled and reused for different but similar situations.

For example, if I ask you to list your top ten favorite foods, they are will have the same feeling tone; good and tasty. However, the variety of ingredients can be across the board. One may like both a beef dish and a vegan dish. These two dished can have little to do with each other, in terms of food sensory content, but both were written to the brain with the same emotional tag.

When feelings are used to trigger memory, it can lead to sensory content cross contamination. The rational or content based person has to come to more of a focus, since emotions are too broad a criteria to hit the bullseye of just the vegan or just a beef dish. My Spock neutralizes the emotional tags for this purpose.

In terms of a political example, when Trump won the election, if I recall he suddenly became the new Hitler with his finger on the nuclear button. He was crazy and unstable, etc, to the Left., These all have a fear tag in common. The emotional left triggered deep felt fears and the minions started to see their entire fear spectrum of content, extrapolate before their eyes, and placed on the shoulders on one person. This was done to Obama also. This was not rational but expected of emotional people. Trump was the anti-vegan and anti-beef dish all in one, since fear was leading the brain and content was secondary; right brain compulsion. 

The rational person; left brain, who sees difference in content, in spite of the same emotional tag, saw Hitler as a part of the past, who has little to do with the present since no data of his ghost have appeared. His memory may still cause fear, due to tagging, but this memory was distinct from this new person. Emotional first became the political divide; feeling first versus content first.

If you recall the Left has been pushing emotions, since the 1960's psychology. Men could not stay strong and detached from feelings, but they now had to become emotional noodles or be name called; cavemen. Many political decisions are based on not hurting feelings instead of common sense. There is also manipulations, trying to induce hurt feelings from the past; slavery. The idea was to train people to use emotions first, so confusion will be created in terms of specific content. This is how bad ideas get a pass. Reparation blames the present, for the past, which is illogical since each is a different memory. However  they may have a common feeling thread for added content confusion. The preparation was made to take this to the next step; group simulations. Next time.
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Re: Political split from: Does admitted atheist Neil deGrasse Tyson, actually believe in God?
« Reply #15 on: 06/08/2021 14:44:18 »
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What I wrote was yucky, so it has to be wrong.
No.
It was in contradiction of fact so it is wrong.
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This will be a good starting point for why leftist are more vulnerable to group simulations,
There is no evidence that such simulations exist.
So you are not doing science here; you are building  a house of cards, founded on your own emotional response to the Left.

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In terms of the human brain, the two lateral hemispheres process data differently. The left brain is more analytical and 2-D, while the right brain is more emotional, symbolic and 3-D.

That "left brain / right brain" myth has been largely debunked by actual science.

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He was crazy and unstable, etc, to the Left.
It's nothing to do with "the Left".
He was crazy; he advocated injecting bleach and UV light as a covid treatment.
He was unstable.
He issued contradictory edicts.

You are ignoring the facts here.

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The rational person; left brain, who sees difference in content, in spite of the same emotional tag, saw Hitler as a part of the past, who has little to do with the present since no data of his ghost have appeared.
Those who forget history are, like those who don't study it, condemned to repeat it.

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If you recall the Left has been pushing emotions, since the 1960's. Men could not stay strong but had to become emotional noodles.
That's simply not true.
I you think it is, please provide evidence.

Anyway, you forgot  to science.

I asked a straightforward question and you couldn't answer it.
Is that because you realise that you lied?


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Guns are inanimate objects yet many think guns control people from the outside,
Name one of these "many".
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All I feel are the emotions of a hysterical person, who is trying to avoid the truth, by creating another side stream. No more free ride for emotional critics. Add content instead of your emotions  leading your perpetual cynical content. This is a teachable moment.
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All I feel are the emotions of a hysterical person,
Then give your head a wobble and answer the questions.

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Guns are inanimate objects yet many think guns control people from the outside,
Name one of these "many".
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That's simply not true.
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Trump was the anti-vegan and anti-beef dish all in one,
He likes chickens.
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If you look at the brain as a whole, billions of neurons with trillions of branches and synapses use 90% of their metabolic energy pumping and exchanging sodium and potassium ions, segregating these ions across all the outer membranes. This energy intensive situation creates a free energy pool or capacitance on the neuron inner and outer membrane surfaces. When neurons fire, the ionic segregation is disrupted, locally, and free energy is released lowering the local potential that was created.

Theoretically, if neurons did not fire, but neurons simply continued to use their metabolic energy to segregate ions, the free energy capacitance of the brain would build and build, which is the goal of all this metabolic energy. This can occur by making more surface area through branches. This hypothetical situation would define a theoretical maximum brain free energy; theoretical maximum free energy set point.

But since neurons aways fire; brain waves, energy is constantly bled off, and the practical and working set point of the brain is less than the theoretical maximum. An analogy would be filling a large wooden water tank with water. As we use energy to pump in water, the tank leaks more and more as the hydraulic pressure increases, so we can never fully fill the tank no matter how much energy we use to pump. Based on how high we do fill will the tank, will define the types of firmware that will be active. If we use too much neural energy; constant firing, the water level can drop and even more primitive firmware will appear. These are based on the firmware from the lower brain sets points of the past. War is very neural energy intensive and always regressed to the same archetypical place of savage unconsciousness.

If you look at emotions and emotional tags, fear gives us the strongest neural output; fight or flight. Fight or flight can bring out the best from our bodies. However natural fear is not designed to linger, but has a very short time span. The animal either fights off the threat, escapes or becomes food. Fear gives the maximum free energy bleed in the shortest time from the neural water tank, for the needs of the moment. However this maximum bleed lowers the set point, fastest, so there is a budget timer, to stop it before damage is done or the worse firmware activates. 

If you look at memory, static neurons, not firing, are at highest potential. Active memory is connected to firing and the lowering of potential. It uses the free energy that is released to make the impression and extrapolation. The animal lives in the present, with minimal memory firing, beyond the real time sensory inductions. He is not dwelling on the past or worrying about the future. The natural animal sets points can stay high for its species. Humans have the ability through language and thinking to constantly fire memory and add leaks. This is part of willpower. Someone who is constantly reviewing a fearful and/or angry past, present or future, leaks free energy and can lowers their set point. The mobs of the summer of 2020 are an example of the retro-firmware of the past, as set points fell due to excessive bleed off. That even looked peaceful to some due to brain drain. This gave great energy but behavior got worse and worse. This is not exactly simulation but it is part of its foundation.

Emotional thinking tends to fire more neurons. The reason is it cannot come to a focus like reason, since emotional tags are reused again and again. This type of thinking tends to dredge up more that a targeted memory, meaning more sources of conscious and unconscious leaks. This leaking does give the feeling of more energy and even vitality; self righteous energy, since more energy passes down the spine into the body. But it also lowers the brain set point and alters the firmware that will play; older and even more primitive tunes.  Socialism comes from the past and was an improvement over the monarchy, but it too regress back to monarchy due to paranoia and brain set point lowering.

Many years ago I did unconscious mind experiments on myself. I was a stranger in a strange place  and there were no precedents for what I was trying, so I had to improvise. I was trying to provide direct evidence of the archetypes of Carl Jung. Suffice to say the earliest research dissociated my mind, in an attempt to learn and analyze details. I left a lot of memory running at the same time; too many windows open, causing a bleed out of energy, with my set point falling far enough down to induce an alternated perception of reality. It was interesting since it was mostly positive. I hit a bottom and started building back up.

Many year later, after an even deeper dip down ancient memory lane; even more set point loss,  the opposite occurred with a natural healing process causing almost a complete memory loss, beyond the present. This stopped all the leaking from years of research and allowed me to acquire a higher than normal set point.  My ideas are unique since I had to start from scratch that day, due to science and knowledge amnesia, and reinvent everything. I had firmware to help which changes as my memory came back. Now it is more connected to the now.  I am uniquely qualified to understand how the firmware and software work. I also tend to jump around to shut down memory instead of keep apps open for leaks. Anger and fear is no longer allowed. Love allows memory with minimal leaks since by integrating data it stores it in less energy intensive ways. Blessed are the children since they live in the moment without care and worry.
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