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Offline trevorjohnson32 (OP)

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Electrons
« on: 04/08/2021 18:53:40 »
The electron starts with a shell which is composed entirely of the space medium. The shell is then filled with energy. The trapped wave of energy creates a barrier so when two atoms collide they bounce off each other. The electron is a sitting wave inside the atom, because it's sitting it doesn't emit light unless illuminated by excess energy. A sitting wave is like a frozen moment in time. Time dilation occurs when that wave is acted upon by gravity fields or movement.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #1 on: 04/08/2021 22:12:16 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/08/2021 18:53:40
when two atoms collide they bounce off each other
Quite often, they react.
So you must be wrong.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #2 on: 04/08/2021 22:49:49 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 04/08/2021 22:12:16
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/08/2021 18:53:40
when two atoms collide they bounce off each other
Quite often, they react.
So you must be wrong.

Yes and they react

The squeezing of space at a standstill would cause that space to heat up, but because of the indivisible nature of the space medium, heat does not leak out. Only when effected by outside energy sources do the electrons light up to create color. There color is light at the wavelength of the trapped electron. The rest of the energy is shed off as heat which is local to a person.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #3 on: 04/08/2021 22:52:21 »
Do you realise that the scientific description makes sense, and yours doesn't?
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #4 on: 04/08/2021 23:15:10 »
" It's not that electrons are destroyed. Rather, they are leaked away to distant points until none remain."
I guess they do dissipate outside the atom.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #5 on: 04/08/2021 23:19:44 »
thought this was mind melting. https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry_Textbook_Maps/Supplemental_Modules_(Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry)/Quantum_Mechanics/09._The_Hydrogen_Atom/Atomic_Theory/Why_atoms_do_not_Collapse
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #6 on: 04/08/2021 23:39:48 »
Hi.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/08/2021 23:19:44
thought this was mind melting......(link to libretext.org)....
   Good for you.   I hope you have many happy years studying science.   It is interesting stuff.
I'm not sure how that article lead to your earlier comments and earlier posts but that probably doesn't matter.

Best wishes.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #7 on: 05/08/2021 06:39:35 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/08/2021 22:49:49
would cause that space to heat up

Space itself doesn't have a temperature. Only things in space have a temperature.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 04/08/2021 23:15:10
I guess they do dissipate outside the atom.

Electrons are stable. They don't dissipate. If they did, that would violate conservation laws.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #8 on: 05/08/2021 12:37:31 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 05/08/2021 06:39:35
Electrons are stable. They don't dissipate. If they did, that would violate conservation laws.
And your toaster wouldn't work.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #9 on: 05/08/2021 19:30:47 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 05/08/2021 06:39:35
Space itself doesn't have a temperature. Only things in space have a temperature.

I've been pondering temperature in my sci fi book I'm writing. I think the space medium when acted on by an expanding density of a wave becomes energy weight itself and the weight causes temperature spikes in that region or field. As for gravity fields being density on the space medium, shouldn't they cause heat as well? maybe they do at powerful levels?
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #10 on: 05/08/2021 20:59:53 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 05/08/2021 19:30:47
I've been pondering temperature in my sci fi book I'm writing. I think the space medium when acted on by an expanding density of a wave becomes energy weight itself and the weight causes temperature spikes in that region or field.

Temperature is generally defined in terms of the average velocity of particles that make up a substance. Space isn't made of moving particles (so far as we know), so it doesn't have a temperature.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #11 on: 05/08/2021 21:03:53 »
Quote from: Origin on 05/08/2021 12:37:31
Quote from: Kryptid on 05/08/2021 06:39:35
Electrons are stable. They don't dissipate. If they did, that would violate conservation laws.
And your toaster wouldn't work.
Mine doesnt. Damn those dissipating electrons!
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #12 on: 05/08/2021 22:03:50 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 05/08/2021 20:59:53
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 05/08/2021 19:30:47
I've been pondering temperature in my sci fi book I'm writing. I think the space medium when acted on by an expanding density of a wave becomes energy weight itself and the weight causes temperature spikes in that region or field.

Temperature is generally defined in terms of the average velocity of particles that make up a substance. Space isn't made of moving particles (so far as we know), so it doesn't have a temperature.

Space is funny, and I just got to sit back and laugh at how seriously you guys take me. But it seems obvious that a thermometer in space is going to read a different temperature at different distances from the sun. So it appears that space with a current of energy through it would be in a luminous state that does have weight and temperature.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #13 on: 05/08/2021 22:38:52 »
That's because of the radiation, not because space itself has a temperature.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #14 on: 06/08/2021 09:05:45 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 05/08/2021 22:03:50
I just got to sit back and laugh at how seriously you guys take me.
How do we distinguish that from trolling?
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #15 on: 06/08/2021 21:11:12 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 05/08/2021 22:38:52
That's because of the radiation, not because space itself has a temperature.

It sounds like you believe space has no properties at all? I think I speak of space differently. It is the medium for radiation and is therefore made up of that medium.
So do you think there's evidence the electron is a sitting wave? instead of a particle that zooms around the nucleus?
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #16 on: 06/08/2021 21:28:49 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 05/08/2021 19:30:47
I've been pondering temperature in my sci fi book I'm writing.
That's fine, but please try to remember that this is a science site, not a fiction site.

Made-up nonsense isn't a "new theory"- it's a fairy tale.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #17 on: 06/08/2021 23:16:48 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/08/2021 21:11:12
It sounds like you believe space has no properties at all?

It's odd for you to conclude that, given that I never stated any such thing. I specified one thing that space does not have: temperature.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/08/2021 21:11:12
I think I speak of space differently.

Then please call it something else. If you use words with known, widely-accepted definitions in unconventional ways, you can cause confusion.

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/08/2021 21:11:12
It is the medium for radiation and is therefore made up of that medium.

According to what evidence?

Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 06/08/2021 21:11:12
So do you think there's evidence the electron is a sitting wave? instead of a particle that zooms around the nucleus?

Electrons act as both waves and particles. It all depends on what you're measuring.
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #18 on: 08/08/2021 20:25:08 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 06/08/2021 23:16:48
It's odd for you to conclude that, given that I never stated any such thing. I specified one thing that space does not have: temperature.
What do you believe then an aether or something?
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Re: Electrons
« Reply #19 on: 08/08/2021 20:42:18 »
Quote from: trevorjohnson32 on 08/08/2021 20:25:08
Quote from: Kryptid on 06/08/2021 23:16:48
It's odd for you to conclude that, given that I never stated any such thing. I specified one thing that space does not have: temperature.
What do you believe then an aether or something?
Did you somehow overlook the idea that Kryptid probably believes science?
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