[Just thinking (OP)]

The universe may have thought its self into existence. How let's start here when we have a thought we create electrons that traverse the neurons of our mind the electrons have a mass that means that the brain is creating a negatively charged particle our little brain can only hold so much. Now if we step this up just a little bit and consider the electrons that are a part of all the hydrogen in the universe we can see how the expanse of the universe is a kind to a great neuron filled with the matter of electrons as the universe expands it fills with thought yes thought has mass. We can now safely consider the universe as a growing neuron. Please don't thank me just think about it and create some matter.

[Origin]

I can't see any science in your post.  It is more of an illogical philosophical after thought.

The universe thought itself into existence??  Wouldn't it have to exist already to have a thought?  Why would you want to anthropomorphize the universe anyway?

[Eternal Student]

Hi @Just thinking   I hope you are well.

Over-all this is a nice enough idea.  Presumably you know that a few people will examine what you've said and point out some problems.  Here's a few:

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when we have a thought we create electrons

   We don't really create electrons,  the electrons were already there.  We just move charged particles not create them.  When electrical signals move around the brain it's just that charged particles are being made to move across cell membranes so that an electrical signal passes along neurones.

2.   The over-all idea is not all that new.  Google will find a host of articles suggesting similar ideas.  Under ordinary circumstances, it would be worth doing some background research to see what other people have also thought or said about such ideas.   However, I've got to urge some caution here.  If you type dangerous stuff into Google it will find articles for you.  Learning to sift through what is written is a valuable skill.  You may get better references looking through Philosophy and Theology articles and including keywords into your search.

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    Obviously it's easier to criticise than to voice new ideas and opinions.  It's an interesting and reasonable idea.  This is the New Theories section and you have chosen to place it here so that seems quite reasonable.

Best Wishes.

[Bored chemist]

Cogito ergo sum.
The thought implies the existence of a thinker.
What was the thinker which brought the universe into being?
It can't have been the universe, so you are either wrong, or heading into theology.

[Just thinking (OP)]

I can't see any science in your post.  It is more of an illogical philosophical after thought.

The universe thought itself into existence??  Wouldn't it have to exist already to have a thought?  Why would you want to anthropomorphize the universe anyway?

That's funny that big word anthropomorphize the universe did create you after all so putting human traits on the universe the universe that made all. Who would have thought?

[Just thinking (OP)]

Best Wishes.

I thank you very much for your kind recognition but when you say that the electrons are already there not so as they are generated at some point and stored so they build up and create more mass in our mind till the neurons can no longer be developed to contain them our neurons run out before the electrons do. Just as a star runs down and dies so do we.

[Just thinking (OP)]

Cogito ergo sum.
The thought implies the existence of a thinker.
What was the thinker which brought the universe into being?
It can't have been the universe, so you are either wrong, or heading into theology.

The first thought is created and it develops from there the universe is a miracle after all with or without a creator.

[Bored chemist]

The first thought is created

What by?
What is the thinker?

What was the thinker which brought the universe into being?
It can't have been the universe, so you are either wrong, or heading into theology.

[Just thinking (OP)]

What was the thinker which brought the universe into being?
It can't have been the universe, so you are either wrong, or heading into theology.

You have lost track of reality first I have never mentioned God and second the universe has happened just in case you missed it. So I'm not wrong we are here after all something started it and this is another possibility. A closed mind will never create we must be open to all possibilities or we will never fly or go faster than 50 miles per hour. Don't get stuck in the dark ages and all that other dark stuff.

[Just thinking (OP)]

Now I see the misconception It is implied not by me but by others that the universe had a thinker before it was created a big mistake and not on my part. Now let me explain it goes like this when a child is created at some point in time before it is born or after the child is born it will have its very first thought just think the very first thought and what will happen next bingo the child will have other thought who would have gest WOW. So now we are up to two thoughts getting bigger getting smarter. OK let's get out of first class and look at the big picture the universe had its first thought that is the start that is the creation and all of the following went on to fill the universe all that hydrogen and electrons expanding the big hypothetical neuron. So yes if the universe can think then it thought itself into being and that is remember the baby the first thought.

[Bored chemist]

You have lost track of reality first I have never mentioned God and second the universe has happened just in case you missed it.

Nobody has questioned those facts here.
Your implication that they did tells us that you have lost track of reality.

In order for there to be a thought, there must be something which thinks it.

If you think the universe is a thought, you have to be able to tell us about the thinker.

[Bored chemist]

Now let me explain it goes like this when a child is created at some point in time before it is born or after the child is born it will have its very first thought just think the very first thought

OK, in that case, it is clear that the thinker is the child.

Now tell us who or what thought the universe into existence.
But try to understand that, if there was no universe then the universe was not there.
And if it was not there, it can not have had any thought.

[Just thinking (OP)]

Now tell us who or what thought the universe into existence.
But try to understand that, if there was no universe then the universe was not there.
And if it was not there, it can not have had any thought.

They say that when a person dies there is still activity in the brain so maybe the dead universe thought itself back into existence after a previous life. Ore maybe that mystery figure that was alluded to thought it out.

[Bored chemist]

They say that when a person dies there is still activity in the brain so maybe the dead universe thought

OK, if the dead universe is the thinker you still have to answer the question.

Where did the dead universe come from?

[Just thinking (OP)]

Where did the dead universe come

I'm glad you have asked this question as so many before you have it came from all the matter in the universe squeezed into a pinhead called a singularity. Billy has his hand up at the back of the class what is your question Billy and don't be silly leave Sally's heir alone.

[Bored chemist]

it came from all the matter in the universe squeezed into a pinhead called a singularity.

OK, that's the Universe...
In what way was this "dead"?

[Just thinking (OP)]

OK, that's the Universe...
In what way was this "dead"?

I think if I squeezed that hard I would be dead to try having a conversation with a singularity you will be squeezed to get any conversation.

[Bored chemist]

I would be dead

You aren't an evolving universe.

OK, that's the Universe...
In what way was this "dead"?

[Just thinking (OP)]

OK, that's the Universe...
In what way was this "dead"?

If the universe was alive before then it came to a singularity it died and then came back remember the thinking universe. eg. A man drowned he is dead the medics arrived and he is back on his feet again. Boris Karloff did it with frankenstine. Have you not seen that documentary.

[Bored chemist]

If the universe was alive before then

There is no reason to suppose that it was.