[Kartazion]

I am using the whole pool with water as space. Gravity is just a squeezed space.

How do you squeezed the space alias the water volume?

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

I am using the whole pool with water as space. Gravity is just a squeezed space.

How do you squeezed the space alias the water volume?

That is a very good question and a very,  very basic one. You add massive objects!. That is why GRAVITY is so weak, compared to other three major fundamental forces.

Now, for thought experiment, assuming that you used two balloons, a big one (Sun) and a small one (Earth), while the volume is FIXED or negligible variance, then, you can create or make gravity, gravitational waves (you wave the two balloons, you make waves!) , bending of light (if you pour say, red liquid, you will see bending color), and BLACK HOLE!).

You see that I am a genius? lol! No, it was Einstein...

In honor of me, when you use this ANALOGY, please, call it Postrado's Pool or MrID's Pool... or MrIntelligentDesign's Pool..

[Kartazion]

The problem being the veracity of the singularities to act with a real reduction of space-time in a much smaller 'imaginary point' ; Namely much denser. For example in your water/space ratio experiment you would have to reduce the amount from 1 liter to 0.01 litre. So you can't use this pool analogy.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

The problem being the veracity of the singularities to act with a real reduction of space-time in a much smaller 'imaginary point' ; Namely much denser. For example in your water/space ratio experiment you would have to reduce the amount from 1 liter to 0.01 litre. So you can't use this pool analogy.

I knew that water is much denser than space. But Postrado's Pool is the only best ANALOGY if you would like to talk about GRAVITY and Black Hole, and related topics. To any teachers and Professors and educators in science who are reading this, please, FREELY use this Postrado's Pool. Just tell the class that this is from me, Postrado, and I called it Postrado's Pool...

[Kartazion]

This thread is a joke. I googled 'Postrados Pool gravity' and you are the first with this thread.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

This thread is a joke. I googled 'Postrados Pool gravity' and you are the first with this thread.

This is my first time to reveal this, Postrado's Pool.. I have many things to share... and from today, I will be using that name..like Schrodinger's cat, or Newton's Apple...

[Origin]

I will be using that name..like Schrodinger's cat, or Newton's Apple...

Or Bozo the clown 🤡.

[Kryptid]

Taking a look at the thread title, what is it that is wrong with black holes?

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

Taking a look at the thread title, what is it that is wrong with black holes?

This is an article from NASA:
What Is a Black Hole?

This article is part of the NASA Knows! (Grades K-4) series.
 

A black hole is a place in space where gravity pulls so much that even light can not get out. The gravity is so strong because matter has been squeezed into a tiny space. This can happen when a star is dying.

Because no light can get out, people can't see black holes. They are invisible. Space telescopes with special tools can help find black holes. The special tools can see how stars that are very close to black holes act differently than other stars.


How Big Are Black Holes?
Black holes can be big or small. Scientists think the smallest black holes are as small as just one atom. These black holes are very tiny but have the mass of a large mountain. Mass is the amount of matter, or "stuff," in an object.

Another kind of black hole is called "stellar." Its mass can be up to 20 times more than the mass of the sun. There may be many, many stellar mass black holes in Earth's galaxy. Earth's galaxy is called the Milky Way.

The largest black holes are called "supermassive." These black holes have masses that are more than 1 million suns together. Scientists have found proof that every large galaxy contains a supermassive black hole at its center. The supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy is called Sagittarius A. It has a mass equal to about 4 million suns and would fit inside a very large ball that could hold a few million Earths.


How Do Black Holes Form?
Scientists think the smallest black holes formed when the universe began.

Stellar black holes are made when the center of a very big star falls in upon itself, or collapses. When this happens, it causes a supernova. A supernova is an exploding star that blasts part of the star into space.

Scientists think supermassive black holes were made at the same time as the galaxy they are in.


If Black Holes Are "Black," How Do Scientists Know They Are There?
A black hole can not be seen because strong gravity pulls all of the light into the middle of the black hole. But scientists can see how the strong gravity affects the stars and gas around the black hole. Scientists can study stars to find out if they are flying around, or orbiting, a black hole.

When a black hole and a star are close together, high-energy light is made. This kind of light can not be seen with human eyes. Scientists use satellites and telescopes in space to see the high-energy light.


Could a Black Hole Destroy Earth?
Black holes do not go around in space eating stars, moons and planets. Earth will not fall into a black hole because no black hole is close enough to the solar system for Earth to do that.

Even if a black hole the same mass as the sun were to take the place of the sun, Earth still would not fall in. The black hole would have the same gravity as the sun. Earth and the other planets would orbit the black hole as they orbit the sun now.

The sun will never turn into a black hole. The sun is not a big enough star to make a black hole.


How Is NASA Studying Black Holes?
NASA is using satellites and telescopes that are traveling in space to learn more about black holes. These spacecraft help scientists answer questions about the universe.
https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/k-4/stories/nasa-knows/what-is-a-black-hole-k4.html
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Take note:

1. Too much gravity or no gravity at all at first?
2. Matter has been squeezed or there is no matter?
3. When a Star dies, the star is gone, what left? Empty, right?
4. No light can get up or light is rushing to the center?
5. Invisible because there is already NO object?
6. Collapse of a dead star is the source


IF you use the Postrado's Pool, you could predict that a Black Hole has these characteristics:

1. First, the Sun had collapsed, or the balloon had bursted
2. Empty space had formed (No water had formed)
3. Then, all the squeezed space = gravity (I called it squeezon in my book and article),
rushed toward the center bursted balloon or empty space
(This is the meaning of "Even Light Cannot Escape"

See the differences? I think Postrado's Pool could explain Black Hole better

[Bored chemist]

In honor of me, when you use this ANALOGY

LOL
Like anyone will be using it.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

In honor of me, when you use this ANALOGY

LOL
Like anyone will be using it.

As you can see that I think I knew what I am saying, and could explain it in a very simple, easy to understand explanation. That is why I have the confidence that I can falsify ToE, or any explanation in science that I think is wrong.

[Bored chemist]

could explain it in a very simple, easy to understand explanation.

Why didn't you?
So far you have not explained anything; you have just said vague things about balloons in pools.

That is why I have the confidence that I can falsify ToE

Do you remember that, in order to make your point about that, you felt that you had to lie?
You certainly have confidence, but you have no competence.

[Bored chemist]

IF you use the Postrado's Pool, you could predict that a Black Hole has these characteristics:

1. First, the Sun had collapsed,

It hadn't.
I can still see it from my window.

[The Spoon]

In honor of me, when you use this ANALOGY, please, call it Postrado's Pool or MrID's Pool... or MrIntelligentDesign's Pool..

I think Fool's Pool is far more fitting.

[Kryptid]

1. Too much gravity or no gravity at all at first?

Too much.

2. Matter has been squeezed or there is no matter?

Matter has been squeezed, although the exact form of the matter at the center of a black hole is unknown at this time.

3. When a Star dies, the star is gone, what left? Empty, right?

No, there is very much something still there.

4. No light can get up or light is rushing to the center?

Both.

5. Invisible because there is already NO object?

An object is definitely there.

6. Collapse of a dead star is the source

That one's not a question.

1. First, the Sun had collapsed, or the balloon had bursted

The Sun collapsing is the opposite process of a balloon bursting. Besides, the Sun can't collapse into a black hole.

2. Empty space had formed (No water had formed)

That really doesn't make sense. In your pool, water itself is supposed to represent space. If there is no water, then there would be no space.

3. Then, all the squeezed space = gravity

What squeezed space? When was space squeezed?

[Origin]

This is my first time to reveal this, Postrado's Pool..

Your pool analogy fits perfectly with your misunderstandings.  So I'm afraid your analogy won't help anyone understand anything useful about gravity

[Kartazion]

I don't know if more messages from each of us are necessary to tell at @MrIntelligentDesign that he is wrong.

The black hole creates a distortion of time. Your pool analogy will not be able to explain it. End of the story.

But what are you still going to say?

This is my first time to reveal this, Postrado's Pool..

The real revelation should be in your understanding. In other words realize that your pool analogy is very very far from explaining anything with the black hole.

PS: Your pool analogy is false due to the real characteristics of a black hole. Do not forget
the black hole creates a distortion of time. Your pool analogy will not be able to explain it.

That it.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

1. Too much gravity or no gravity at all at first?

What squeezed space? When was space squeezed?

You still cannot figure it out?

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

I don't know if more messages from each of us are necessary to tell at @MrIntelligentDesign that he is wrong.

The black hole creates a distortion of time. Your pool analogy will not be able to explain it. End of the story.

But what are you still going to say?

This is my first time to reveal this, Postrado's Pool..

The real revelation should be in your understanding. In other words realize that your pool analogy is very very far from explaining anything with the black hole.

PS: Your pool analogy is false due to the real characteristics of a black hole. Do not forget
the black hole creates a distortion of time. Your pool analogy will not be able to explain it.

That it.

OK, which or whose time that is being distorted are you talking about?

In one of YT video, I had discussed "Time, What it is?"..

Please, be specific.

[Kartazion]

High speed "slows down" time while low gravity "speeds it up".