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Is Nuclear War imminent?

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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #40 on: 25/09/2022 22:18:54 »
September 25, 2022 - There will be catastrophic consequences for Russia if they use nuclear weapons. America and its allies will act “decisively” if Russia uses a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine - Jake Sullivan interview

Quote from: Colin2B on 25/09/2022 07:50:25
In order to lie a person must know that what they are saying is not true. If they believe what they are saying they are not lying.
Yes I agree, but I don't understand why you say that. Do you question the word of leaders?
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #41 on: 25/09/2022 22:34:13 »
The escalation will be as follows:

1 - Russian tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine
2 - USA and allies retaliate
3 - UK and Europe and part of USA destroyed

Are you ready?
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #42 on: 25/09/2022 22:41:22 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/09/2022 22:18:54
If a person tells you that no nuclear war is not near, then he is a liar.
Quote from: Colin2B on 25/09/2022 07:50:25
In order to lie a person must know that what they are saying is not true. If they believe what they are saying they are not lying.
I don't understand why you say that. Do you question the word of leaders?
I always question the word of political leaders as a matter of principle.

Why do I say that? Because your statement covered any person who wishes to give an option, some of those might be lying, some might not, it depends whether they believe what they say, or wish to deceive you.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #43 on: 25/09/2022 23:02:41 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 25/09/2022 22:41:22
Why do I say that? Because your statement covered any person who wishes to give an option
My statement is based on reliable media sources. These are mainly the defense or other counterparts of each country.
Quote from: Kartazion on 24/09/2022 14:00:51
According to the media temperature and following the position of Joe Biden it should be noted that:
Giving your opinion is therefore based on the current diplomatic environment which can be assessed by the media. If to say that it's bluffing is risky and false the real intenssion of the armies.
« Last Edit: 25/09/2022 23:11:57 by Kartazion »
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #44 on: 25/09/2022 23:16:22 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/09/2022 22:34:13
The escalation will be as follows:

1 - Russian tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine
2 - USA and allies retaliate
3 - UK and Europe and part of USA destroyed

Are you ready?
Are you aware the UK China USA France and Russia are bound by a un treaty to aid the Ukraine in the event of a nuclear threat. Russia by duty should now give the Ukraine weapons.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #45 on: 26/09/2022 05:12:19 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 25/09/2022 23:02:41
Quote from: Colin2B on 25/09/2022 22:41:22
Why do I say that? Because your statement covered any person who wishes to give an option
My statement is based on reliable media sources.
It doesn’t matter what your opinion is based on.
What is in question is your statement “If a person tells you that no nuclear war is not near, then he is a liar.”
A person is only a liar if they believe nuclear war is near, but tells you it is not. If they truly believe it is not near, then they are only mistaken, not lying. This is basic English.
By the way, your sentence construction “no nuclear war is not near,” is poor English; I assume you mean “If a person tells you that nuclear war is not near, then he is a liar.”
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #46 on: 26/09/2022 08:51:46 »
You'd rather give English lessons and bypass the OP, when you're all going to die.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #47 on: 26/09/2022 09:16:31 »
@Colin2B you're the musician who keeps playing while the boat is sinking.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #48 on: 26/09/2022 14:24:57 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 26/09/2022 08:51:46
You'd rather give English lessons and bypass the OP, when you're all going to die.
No one is bypassing anything, there has been a lot of discussion here on the topic. However, nothing said here will have any effect on decisions made by Russia, US, or any other nation.
However, when they do try to communicate with each other, let’s hope they get the words right rather than be misunderstood.

Quote from: Kartazion on 26/09/2022 09:16:31
@Colin2B you're the musician who keeps playing while the boat is sinking.
If there are no lifeboats, it will at least pass the time until the inevitable.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #49 on: 26/09/2022 14:42:28 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 26/09/2022 08:51:46
You'd rather give English lessons and bypass the OP, when you're all going to die.
You're kind of freaking out here, I think.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #50 on: 28/09/2022 23:10:10 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 26/09/2022 14:24:57
If there are no lifeboats, it will at least pass the time until the inevitable.
There are a lot of nuclear bunkers. For example, each Swiss has a place in one of these nuclear bunkers. But what makes time pass?

Quote from: Origin on 26/09/2022 14:42:28
You're kind of freaking out here, I think.
@Origin you're so indoctrinated that you're not even sensitive to a possible end of the lives of your loved ones by war.

If your friend is the musician you must be one of the sailors.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #51 on: 28/09/2022 23:49:05 »
So cut to the chase. Suppose nuclear war is inevitable and we are all going to die. What are you going to do about it?
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #52 on: 29/09/2022 00:15:46 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 28/09/2022 23:49:05
What are you going to do about it?
To pray.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #53 on: 29/09/2022 14:31:58 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 29/09/2022 00:15:46
To pray.
Well that should fix everything.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #54 on: 29/09/2022 21:11:08 »
Quote from: Origin on 29/09/2022 14:31:58
Well that should fix everything.
Bingo!
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #55 on: 29/09/2022 23:14:46 »
Apparently, President Putin is going to announce election results today - 4 provinces of Ukraine have voted to join Russia (these are provinces controlled by the Russian military)
- I heard that some of the eastern provinces have a significant Russian-speaking population
- I would be interested to see some of the advertisements run by the "No" campaign...
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #56 on: 30/09/2022 00:34:46 »
It is more exactly about annexations. Let's see the sanctions applied in the days to come. https://ukdaily.news/joe-biden-promises-swift-and-severe-sanctions-in-the-event-of-russian-annexations-107369.html
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #57 on: 30/09/2022 03:44:17 »
Quote from: Origin on 29/09/2022 14:31:58
Quote from: Kartazion on 29/09/2022 00:15:46
To pray.
Well that should fix everything.
“No, cryin' won't help you, prayin' won't do you no good
When the levee breaks, mama, you got to move, ooh”

Problem is, there is nowhere to run

Russian diplomat Boris Bondarev, who resigned in protest to the war, worked on arms control negotiations and says that Russia believes the west is weak and will not retaliate, but will capitulate at the first strike.
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #58 on: 30/09/2022 06:25:48 »
Quote from: evan_au on 29/09/2022 23:14:46
- I would be interested to see some of the advertisements run by the "No" campaign...
It's bound to be very negative

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2015/may/27/power-of-yes-why-wording-of-britains-eu-referendum-matters
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Re: Is Nuclear War imminent?
« Reply #59 on: 30/09/2022 18:25:59 »
I think if they still decide to use nuclear weapons, they will sign their country's death warrant. it is unlikely that Putin will go for it. only words to emphasize his sense of importance.
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