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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #80 on: 10/09/2022 05:50:56 »
 A working wheel will allow me and Dr. Jaski to become friends. Then a show at Utrecht University will
be a universal Uf Da!!! You know, some people are simply better than others. After all, he is a librarian
who has a book I am interested in. He's at the top of the food chain so to speak.
 It is a mater of priorities.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #81 on: 10/09/2022 06:09:08 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 10/09/2022 05:50:56
He's at the top of the food chain so to speak..
Librarians are never at the top of the food chain and they rarely have the sort of funds we are talking about.
Anyway, your choice, a book or your fortune. The offer still stands if you bring it to a lab in Cambridge.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #82 on: 10/09/2022 06:45:26 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 10/09/2022 05:50:56
A working wheel
It will never happen, because your wheel does not work. You only show a simple pulley system.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #83 on: 10/09/2022 09:27:00 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/09/2022 06:45:26
It will never happen, because your wheel does not work. You only show a simple pulley system.
I might say please don’t spoil the fun, but take care or you will be accused of stalking.

I don’t want to prolong this distraction, but as the OP is not interested in large amounts of cash we might as well clear this up:


Quote from: Deecart on 09/09/2022 16:02:57
Gravity was a force, even with Newton.
The difference is that with Newton, the representation of this force was a scalar vector.
With Einstein, the difference is that the representation is not a scalar vector any more.
I’m afraid you and Kartasion are misunderstanding the use of English. That’s not surprising as even native English speakers can get this wrong and even technical journals do so.
“In physics, gravity (from Latin gravitas 'weight') is a fundamental interaction which causes mutual attraction between all things with mass or energy”. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity)
Or, in the article you quote “Gravity is the attraction between two objects that have mass or energy,”
It is true that some use the term force loosely or as a shorthand, but it is more correct to say the force due to gravity or gravitational force. The reason for this is that the ‘force’ is not felt until it is resisted; an object in freefall (under the action of gravity) feels no force unless resisted by, say, the ground.
If you use loose English and say that gravity is a force then, more correctly, you would have to say that Einstein said that gravity does not exist. What he actually said is that the mutual attraction is not due to a force acting at a distance, but a natural motion through spacetime.
By the way, all forces are vectors so your comment is superfluous.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #84 on: 10/09/2022 10:20:50 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 10/09/2022 02:47:40
I took a break from working on it. The video shows there is no support for the axle. I have to make tooling and design a mount to hold the other bearings I have. I bought the bearings because I anticipated this might be a problem.
While you are waiting for the bearings to be delivered, or one evening whiten consideration of the neighbours means that you can't do noisy woodworking, you can do as I asked and take two screenshots from the video and measure the heights of the weights.
It's a ten minute job.
Why are you scared to do it?
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #85 on: 10/09/2022 10:25:50 »
Let's talk economics. Serious investment economics, now that Colin has joined the consortium.

Suppose we have a machine that generates more energy than it consumes. That describes a primary battery, but it is clearly not going to make a big impact because the life energy cost begins with mining the minerals that make the battery, then processing the chemical components and assembling it. So overall it generates less useful energy than we used to make it - despite the name, it is a store, not a primary generator.

What we need from Mr Lindgaard's machine is the demonstrated ability to produce more energy (and only a tiny bit more) than it takes to build another one before the first one wears out. Remember wood is the product of less than 1% of the solar energy that falls on a tree, so it may not be an ideal material to start with.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #86 on: 10/09/2022 13:28:51 »
 And what I hear at besslerwheel.com; https://photos.app.goo.gl/DEeRezDDcqznoJ897

 I think that person is the same person who used to say he will call my daddy if I don't personally please him.
I got banned from the forum when I told him I wasn't a little boy. That is what the internet is about.

 And to be a jerk, I will mention my experiment and will say that over 700 scientists with the IPCC
came up with no solution to their observation just as in over 25+ years no atmospheric chemistry scientist has. And yet I'm on latrine duty with a toothbrush and people can watch this movie to get a clue.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7231572/

 I know, I'll say the IPCC and the Christian church were teaching me that when I do for them I am doing for God and then God will love me.

 And I'll avoid church for the same reason but what isn't toxic anymore?
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #87 on: 10/09/2022 16:49:26 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 10/09/2022 13:28:51
 And to be a jerk, I will mention my experiment and will say that over 700 scientists with the IPCC
came up with no solution to their observation just as in over 25+ years
Because they would find themselves unemployed if they did! The important phrase that must end every "scientific" paper is "further research is needed."
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #88 on: 10/09/2022 17:58:53 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 10/09/2022 16:49:26
The important phrase that must end every "scientific" paper is "further research is needed."
That phrase is actually banned in some journals.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #89 on: 11/09/2022 18:31:19 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 10/09/2022 16:49:26
Because they would find themselves unemployed if they did! The important phrase that must end every "scientific" paper is "further research is needed."

The full sentence is : It is multifactorial, further research is needed.
(Doing this you can assure yourself to be payed for you research for decades).
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #90 on: 12/09/2022 20:09:47 »
 I've modified the wheel;
and my website; http://climate-cycling.com/

 I am also 110% disabled. 100% Social Security and 10% service connected.
And if things work out, I'll explain why the tropopause is a boundary layer besides
saying it's a cold inversion. When that is said, it is not explaining why it is.
 And as I mention on my website, if my experiment works and the number of reactions
changes with latitude, altitude and distance from the magnetosphere, would that be an
example of non-local behavior/quantum entanglement on an astronomical level like gravity is?
 The laws of physics are the same at the elemental level (strong/weak nuclear force) and at
the astronomical level (gravity and magnetic fields).
 Besides if my build and science experiment works (both of them), then maybe I'm peeking
behind the curtain instead of looking at the curtain and wondering what's behind it?

 An FYI, all of this might come from having a Norwegian accent in the U.S. That is why I am
a disabled Veteran. I heard shipmates saying "he is not one of us so let's screw him". This
was said to the people in charge. Luckily I read a biography on Einstein when I was 13 and was fascinated by what he wanted to know, what propagates the motion of light? To me that is
what his light bending when passing the Sun was about, something was moving it.
And today he'd probably say gravitons but in 1916/1919 his work was revolutionary.
 And this creates a problem if I am right. Dr. Poschl is aware of this. I happen to like science
and a lot of scientists whose work is well known. He also knows I'm doing this because of my interest
in science and that I don't have the need to say who is better. My Father lived under the 3rd Reich, Bessler's Wheel is German history and Dr. Poschl is also German and asked me why he should want to work with me.
 And both myself and Dr. Poschl know that I have to give him a reason. There really are no science clubs that allow for amateur scientists. What has helped me is posting in toxic forums because I can have my own opinion. And with why the tropopause is a barrier, that will also be my own opinion.
 And with being "different", is Europe better than the U.S.? And is the U.S. better than Norway?
Did I make a mistake learning to speak Engleske when I moved (back) to the U.S.?
 And with the war in Ukraine, Dr. Poschl might like the idea of working together. Myself, I think the guy actually likes atmospheric chemistry.

 p.s., to use different bearings and a different housing requires coming up with a new design while maintaining the same hole locations and how to make the parts as well. If that is easy to do then why haven't you guys figured out what allows for the tropopause? I know that gets possibly into astrophysics as well but it is science, right?
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #91 on: 12/09/2022 20:52:47 »
Just to save anyone the time of looking at the "video".
THE WHEL DOES NOT ACTUALLY MOVE.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #92 on: 12/09/2022 21:59:31 »
 @Bored chemist, can you also say 100% disabled? Atmospheric chemistry is not organic chemistry.
Those are 2 different branches of science. At the moment they are the same branch. If my work proves
out then I'll create the field of atmospheric chemistry and astrophysics.
 It'd be like my American mother hooking up with my Norwegian Father. And yet who gets to create a new
field in science? That just doesn't happen. This is why on my website I do mention that if a relationship is
shown between the magnetosphere and atmospheric chemistry then dark matter allowing for quantum
entanglement/non-local behavior will need to be a consideration. And I do mention 1916/1919 as what those
individuals were referring to.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #93 on: 12/09/2022 22:25:16 »
@All, just an FYI. Is the United States of America the greatest country in the world? I will not say it is. I happen
to like Norway, its people and its culture. At the same time, on my website I say Atmospheric Chemistry and Astrophysics. Is that better than organic chemistry? Do I hate George Washington Carver?
 Or is that what I am pursuing? And I do need to say dark matter allows for quantum entanglement, non-local behavior and gravity. Otherwise if I am successful people will say that I did not know what I was talking about.
 I do need to support the work that I have been and will continue to pursue.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #94 on: 12/09/2022 22:47:27 »
Give me Norway every time.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #95 on: 12/09/2022 23:04:29 »
@alancalverd , Thank You.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #96 on: 12/09/2022 23:35:25 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 12/09/2022 21:59:31
@Bored chemist, can you also say 100% disabled? Atmospheric chemistry is not organic chemistry.
Those are 2 different branches of science. At the moment they are the same branch. If my work proves
out then I'll create the field of atmospheric chemistry and astrophysics.
 It'd be like my American mother hooking up with my Norwegian Father. And yet who gets to create a new
field in science? That just doesn't happen. This is why on my website I do mention that if a relationship is
shown between the magnetosphere and atmospheric chemistry then dark matter allowing for quantum
entanglement/non-local behavior will need to be a consideration. And I do mention 1916/1919 as what those
individuals were referring to.
You might want to try a little less autobiography and a lot more science,
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #97 on: 13/09/2022 00:30:22 »
@Bored chemist, someone does not create a new field in science overnight. With the work that I am
pursuing, I have to say I am aware of what it allows for. If dark matter is considered as an allotrope, I
have to be aware of this.

 This video
was made near Ålesund. While it doesn't matter to you, neither does Ålesund. And yet Ålesund matters to me.

 My mother was from Berea, Ky., music like this
I do follow her channel.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #98 on: 13/09/2022 02:34:35 »
@Bored chemist, so you can have your fun. Could you please start a discussion based on Einstein's work?
What does his general theory represent? Does it deviate from Newton's work and his missing 43 arc seconds per century of the missing orbit of Mercury?
 It is what we are discussing. Why does such a small amount of time matter? And with me, I do listen to bluegrass music. In Appalachia and outside of it, it is what "hillbillies" listen to.

p.s.., to be technically correct, 43 arc seconds is missing time. It can be a + or -.  How to account for missing time? Precession does not say before or after.
 And yet this is what Einstein's general theory of relativity is based on.
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Re: Lifting One Weight Higher Than Another Drops
« Reply #99 on: 13/09/2022 04:04:35 »
Quote from: JLindgaard on 13/09/2022 02:34:35
o be technically correct, 43 arc seconds is missing time.

It's a unit of angular measurement, actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_and_second_of_arc
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