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ALIENS?
« on: 08/11/2022 14:43:45 »
Any Thoughts Whatsoever?


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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #1 on: 08/11/2022 15:09:43 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 08/11/2022 14:43:45
Any Thoughts Whatsoever?
There is probably life on planets other than earth; which is of course just a speculation.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #2 on: 08/11/2022 15:49:41 »
I believe aliens regularly haunt the "new theories" subforum. On a serious note, i'm sure life exists abundantly on other planets but since the distances are astronomical, contact is not possible.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #3 on: 11/11/2022 13:15:39 »
I personally consider the 2004 USS Nimitz Encounter to be One of the best credible unclassified information.

Hopeful NASA will find something which everyone else overlooked.

Disheartened to read news articles & reports alleging UFO/UAP to be just airborne trash or silly spy drones.

P.S. - In such a Humongous Universe, how can WE be the Only ones, where the Heck is Everyone else at?
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #4 on: 11/11/2022 14:08:53 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 11/11/2022 13:15:39
P.S. - In such a Humongous Universe, how can WE be the Only ones, where the Heck is Everyone else at?
Everyone else (if they exist) are on their home planet/solar system.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #5 on: 12/11/2022 17:47:32 »
I had heard an Explanation...

If Intelligent Life had Evolved a Billion years before US in the Milky Way..

Then even at 10% the speed of Light Travel, They could have Populated the entire Galaxy in 500 million years.

Does that make Sense?
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #6 on: 12/11/2022 17:57:50 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 12/11/2022 17:47:32
I had heard an Explanation...

If Intelligent Life had Evolved a Billion years before US in the Milky Way..

Then even at 10% the speed of Light Travel, They could have Populated the entire Galaxy in 500 million years.

Does that make Sense?

I've heard that before as well. It's certainly within the laws of physics for such a thing to happen, but that doesn't mean that aliens either would (1) colonize a galaxy, or (2) take on a form that is readily detectable by modern technology.

I think part of the problem when it comes to advanced alien life is that we really have no way of predicting how they would behave. What would the motivations for a superhuman intelligence be? Surely when our pets see us sitting in front of the glowing, color-changing rectangle we call a computer, they can't comprehend what we are doing or why we are doing it. It could well be the same way for us trying to understand such advanced extraterrestrial civilizations (especially if they are post-biological and thus have the capacity to upgrade their own intelligence as readily as we improve our own computers). They might even do things we'd consider irrational because we don't have the cognitive capacity to understand it.

Perhaps that would lead them to not colonizing other star systems. Or perhaps instead of building mega-structures like Dyson spheres, they may conclude that building smaller is better instead. Or they may have technology that is so strange that we can't recognize it as technology.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #7 on: 12/11/2022 19:04:35 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 12/11/2022 17:47:32
I had heard an Explanation...

If Intelligent Life had Evolved a Billion years before US in the Milky Way..

Then even at 10% the speed of Light Travel, They could have Populated the entire Galaxy in 500 million years.

Does that make Sense?
It's the only way Star Trek could account for all of the aliens being humanoid.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #8 on: 13/11/2022 07:21:42 »
This is described by the Fermi Paradox, sometimes expressed as: If there are alien civilisations, where are they?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

Many possible explanations have been proposed, and many books have been written on the subject - the Wikipedia article mentions 7 categories of explanations...
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #9 on: 13/11/2022 14:09:47 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 12/11/2022 19:04:35
It's the only way Star Trek could account for all of the aliens being humanoid.
It's a business decision, surely?

Star Trek was made on a negligible budget, mostly in Gene Roddenberry's garage. Human actors are cheaper and more versatile than robots, and having most of the script in English guarantees the widest possible audience. It is worth noting that the Vulcan language is mostly Yiddish, widely spoken in Hollywood and therefore cheap to write, and the frequent "aspirated x" in Klingon presents no problems for Hispanic Americans. 

Not bad for a bunch of mates mucking around with cardboard scenery and one camera, eh?
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #10 on: 13/11/2022 15:02:10 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 13/11/2022 14:09:47
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 12/11/2022 19:04:35
It's the only way Star Trek could account for all of the aliens being humanoid.
It's a business decision, surely?

Star Trek was made on a negligible budget,
Not bad for a bunch of mates mucking around with cardboard scenery and one camera, eh?
Apparently the reason for using the transporter, far cheaper than filming models landing on a planet.
I think the low budget feel was part of the appeal. I particularly liked the polystyrene rocks that came tumbling (er - bouncing) down, but the man-under-a-carpet creature did stretch credibility.
Even the plots were low budget, often lifted from some classic scifi stories.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #11 on: 13/11/2022 16:28:46 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 13/11/2022 15:02:10
Apparently the reason for using the transporter, far cheaper than filming models landing on a planet.
....like the Red Dwarf Lander, which occasionally slid down a wire onto a planet somewhere in Shepperton, fairly close to the Moon (2001) and galaxies far, far away (Star Wars - or was that Elstree?). Which is why there is no British manned space program: you can get to anywhere you can imagine, in 40 minutes from Waterloo or St Pancras.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #12 on: 13/11/2022 18:41:45 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 13/11/2022 16:28:46
....like the Red Dwarf Lander, which occasionally slid down a wire onto a planet somewhere in Shepperton,
Wow, a family favourite of ours.  Very innovative and can be watched more than once.

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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #13 on: 13/11/2022 20:16:36 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 13/11/2022 16:28:46
Quote from: Colin2B on 13/11/2022 15:02:10
Apparently the reason for using the transporter, far cheaper than filming models landing on a planet.
....like the Red Dwarf Lander, which occasionally slid down a wire onto a planet somewhere in Shepperton, fairly close to the Moon (2001) and galaxies far, far away (Star Wars - or was that Elstree?). Which is why there is no British manned space program: you can get to anywhere you can imagine, in 40 minutes from Waterloo or St Pancras.
Red dwarf  was so splendidly modelled due to doctor who and primarily Thunderbirds.
Quote from: Colin2B on 13/11/2022 15:02:10
Quote from: alancalverd on 13/11/2022 14:09:47
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 12/11/2022 19:04:35
It's the only way Star Trek could account for all of the aliens being humanoid.
It's a business decision, surely?

Star Trek was made on a negligible budget,
Not bad for a bunch of mates mucking around with cardboard scenery and one camera, eh?
Apparently the reason for using the transporter, far cheaper than filming models landing on a planet.

Sounds about right. The low budget feel even created the enduring appeal of startrek storylines, metaphysical hypothesis are not expensive.
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« Reply #14 on: 14/11/2022 10:54:26 »
Thunderbirds "splendidly modelled"? Andy Pandy puppets, saved by a great theme tune (still a brass band standard).

But credit for Doctor Who: a phone box, an overgrown quarry, and the occasional abandoned airfield, all in the best Star Trek tradition.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #15 on: 15/11/2022 13:16:56 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 14/11/2022 10:54:26
Thunderbirds "splendidly modelled"? Andy Pandy puppets, saved by a great theme tune (still a brass band standard).

But credit for Doctor Who: a phone box, an overgrown quarry, and the occasional abandoned airfield, all in the best Star Trek tradition.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #16 on: 15/11/2022 17:08:12 »
I would point out the 2 videos released by the Pentagon which shows a giant chicklet shape craft moving at incredible speeds and a spinning top like objected also traveling at incredible speeds.Followed by a US government statement that UFOs are a real and serious risk to national security.All the servicemen on the Nimitz.If these are alien crafts then it suggests that there is a near by alien civilization possible more than one.
On top of that I would bet everything I have that not just one species but many are out there.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #17 on: 15/11/2022 17:21:29 »
Quote from: Peter11 on 15/11/2022 17:08:12
If these are alien crafts then it suggests that there is a near by alien civilization possible more than one.
On top of that I would bet everything I have that not just one species but many are out there.

I Feel the Same Way Too!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets

I could Never truly Believe in Bob Lazar's claims...but for some Unknown reason, i cannot get over what this Gentleman claimed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haim_Eshed
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #18 on: 15/11/2022 18:06:29 »
Bob Lazar is a fantasist.
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Re: ALIENS?
« Reply #19 on: 16/11/2022 14:55:29 »
Strangely his element 115 now exist on the periotic table I believe he said it was what powered the alien craft. I believe its synthetically made and does not occur naturally. Its so rare they don't know its properties and it decays fast. But who knows?
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