Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 20:42:16
I'm not great with my words. but it seems like 2^n and n=diameter would be a near perfect example of something that would seek comfort.
n^3 where n=diameter provided. that's with circles though.
diameter=1 uses 2 in 2d, 3 in 3d
diameter=2 uses 4 in 2d, 6 in 3d
diameter=3 uses 8 in 2d, 12 in 3d
diameter=4 uses 16 in 2d, 24 in 3d
diameter=5 uses 32 in 2d, 48 in 3d
diameter=6 uses 64 in 2d, 96 in 3d
diameter=7 uses 128 in 2d, 192 in 3d
diameter=8 uses 256 in 2d, 384 in 3d
diameter=9 uses 512 in 2d, 768 in 3d
Could something similar be used in atoms or in greater cosmological structures.
if so, could it explain the relatively flat nature of our sol system, as being part of the skin of a greater sphere or ellipsoid?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 20:49:58
could a change in two level 3 electrons have that much impact?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 20:53:59
4.002/2=2.001
2.001=1+0.334+0.667
deuterium>1+0.334+0.667
hydrogen>0.334+0.667
if charge + spin + mass = gravity unit.
1/6=electron
1/3=proton
1/2= neutron
Post by: Kryptid on 10/10/2022 20:55:45
if charge + spin + mass = gravity unit.
Mass alone is enough to explain gravity.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 21:10:42
but to explain it, in a relatively sized statement, is more difficult.
add in the other 3 forces, it gets more difficult.
the charge + spin + mass = gravitational unit is more for inference of a thought process to show a possible flip interaction.
Unless its easy to explain why the weight hits at 4.002 for helium instead of 4.
by the way. Apply Collatz's n/2 to breakdown of helium via 5 particles.
4.002/2=2.001
2.001/5=0.4002
0.4002+(2*0.4002)+(2*0.4002)=2.001
but then proton weight and neutron weight is the same. when visually, and by charge we can see a difference.
0.4002*1/6=0.0667
0.4002-0.0667=0.3335
0.4002+0.0667=0.4669
0.4002+(2*0.3335)+(2*0.4669)=2.001
then we check with hydrogen and deuterium
0.4002+0.3335=0.7337<hydrogen
0.4002+0.3335+0.4669=1.2006>deuterium
this gets worse the more we attempt to rectify it. it loops wrong to fall down perfectly. (collatz breakdown via n/2 evens)
meaning we missed or misinterpretted atomic particle evidence.
Post by: Kryptid on 10/10/2022 21:25:45
Post by: Bored chemist on 10/10/2022 21:32:37
No.
Science says so.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 21:41:08
In the first law, an object will not change its motion unless a force acts on it. In the second law, the force on an object is equal to its mass times its acceleration. In the third law, when two objects interact, they apply forces to each other of equal magnitude and opposite direction.
so force in equal measure and spherical settings?
The laws of thermodynamics define a group of physical quantities, such as temperature, energy, and entropy, that characterize thermodynamic systems in thermodynamic equilibrium. The laws also use various parameters for thermodynamic processes, such as thermodynamic work and heat, and establish relationships between them. They state empirical facts that form a basis of precluding the possibility of certain phenomena, such as perpetual motion. In addition to their use in thermodynamics, they are important fundamental laws of physics in general, and are applicable in other natural sciences.
Traditionally, thermodynamics has recognized three fundamental laws, simply named by an ordinal identification, the first law, the second law, and the third law.[1][2][3] A more fundamental statement was later labelled as the zeroth law, after the first three laws had been established.
The zeroth law of thermodynamics defines thermal equilibrium and forms a basis for the definition of temperature: If two systems are each in thermal equilibrium with a third system, then they are in thermal equilibrium with each other.
The first law of thermodynamics states that, when energy passes into or out of a system (as work, heat, or matter), the system's internal energy changes in accordance with the law of conservation of energy.
The second law of thermodynamics states that in a natural thermodynamic process, the sum of the entropies of the interacting thermodynamic systems never decreases. A common corollary of the statement is that heat does not spontaneously pass from a colder body to a warmer body.
The third law of thermodynamics states that a system's entropy approaches a constant value as the temperature approaches absolute zero. With the exception of non-crystalline solids (glasses), the entropy of a system at absolute zero is typically close to zero.[2]
The first and second laws prohibit two kinds of perpetual motion machines, respectively: the perpetual motion machine of the first kind which produces work with no energy input, and the perpetual motion machine of the second kind which spontaneously converts thermal energy into mechanical work.
If two magnets have force between them, pressure, will they not be inclined to move?
and if in spherical settings, would that movement not equate to layers moving in opposite directions?
If we purposely put them under pressure?
Post by: Bored chemist on 10/10/2022 21:45:53
laws of thermodynamics plus laws of force state that a closed system can create,Create what?
Because they certainly can't create energy.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 21:56:47
the energy is used and kept and stored within the sphere system itself. using the slow leaking force of magnetic fields from magnets to create motion. tapping it is tapping the moving fields, which would be less inhibition than a direct power tapping mechanism. actually, it never really converts anything. it uses the fact that like magnet ends repel as force, to create motion.
magnetic force, attraction or repulsion that arises between electrically charged particles because of their motion. It is the basic force responsible for such effects as the action of electric motors and the attraction of magnets for iron.
https://images.app.goo.gl/uwGp2oUqgc28ccKf6
that image shows why magnets can use the extra slot in the next sphere, compared to it's own.
Post by: Kryptid on 10/10/2022 23:09:01
if two magnets being in close proximate can create will to move, (seeking comfort) then a sphere of magnets with the right patterns of magnet facing, could possibly create will to move as well, that chases it's own comfort, continuously. if it moves, and has a built in field system (outer sphere of magnets) then that field system can be harnessed via the motion produced (faraday style charging structure) to create electricity.
That wouldn't work. Noether's theorem guarantees that such a perpetual motion machine cannot exist:
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/10/2022 23:16:18
2*s=1/2*d
an extra movement is derived from our zero point exchange of
2^n=1/2^-n to 2^-n=1/2^n.
remember, you have to circumvent true zero.
also compare 2n to 2n+1 in negative to positive spectrums. include zero for perception.
go from -3 to 3.
-3=2n where n=-1.5
-3=2n+1 where n=-2.
the more we try to break it down, the more it exchanges 2n and 2n+1 to breakdown.
-1.5=2n where n=-0.75
-1.5=2n+1 where n=-1.25
it allows a very small looping mechanism. with very slow gains.
more specifically.
2n=0 where n=0
2n+1=0 where n=-0.5
2n+1=1 where n=0
2n=2 where n=1
2n+1=2 where n=0.5
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 08:42:09
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:05:38
to think, you know science so well. you should already have the 4 forces united and a complete standard model. if not, you don't know. you think you know.
science is about testing and retesting. changing parameters. have a good day.
after that insult, that closed mind repetitive loop, please refrain from replying to me. if you have issues with that, get your ego in check. i came for discussion. not to be insulted.
word salad. **** off bro. talk on the subject. not the person.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:12:58
2*(2n+1=3)+1
(3,2,1,0,1,2,3)
now work out where each 3 lands with the +1 we added. -0.5 to 0.5, explain this gapping please. (the 2n is 0.5 to 2.5 with 1.5 as an operating zero) (-0.5 to -2.5 via -1.5)
hint, the split is like chaos theory logistics map, except quicker.
imagine 2n+1 as step locations if 2n is movement.
1 step always involves two points.
2 steps always involves three points.
3 steps always involves four points.
quirks attach in 2 down, 1 up. (or 2 up, 1 down)
odds and evens always have 2 to one ratio in the order they come. its all binary systems in layers.
but yet, word salad. maybe its just over your head bro. or maybe, you think you know more than you actually know, because some people jumped the gun, and we just accepted what they said, wrongfully so.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:27:00
"The first and second laws prohibit two kinds of perpetual motion machines, respectively: the perpetual motion machine of the first kind which produces work with no energy input, and the perpetual motion machine of the second kind which spontaneously converts thermal energy into mechanical work." from google.
phi is how we are able to do it. because of data share exchange zones. simple overlap when we halve our golden math ratio of a pentagram. a+b=c+b becomes a+b/2=c+b/2 where b=1.
this leaves 1.618-1=0.618
0.618*2=1.236
that is 0.236 shared data zone.
that shared data zone is what we are truly taking advantage of.
all based in physics bro. just getting magnets to chase comfort, eternally, as long as they have power.
its just that we make the comfort zone chase it's own comfort too.
but you know more about something you don't think is possible than someone who explored it open mindedly.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:37:24
but if perpetual motion via magnetism always finds comfort to stop, then a comfort finding system is needed to truly be perpetual. find the comfort, and i'll shut up. You'll actually get me to drop it. but just stating that it's not possible is not science. let's dig in and possibly discover origins of Fibonacci spirals.
top row, 2nd to last picture provided.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:39:58
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:50:51
2n+1=7 where n=3
2n+1=15 where n=7
2n=2 where n=1
2n=6 where n=3
2n=14 where n=7
when we have 2n+1=3 in double,
we see
-3,-2.5,-2,-1.5,-1,-0.5,0,0.5,1,1.5,2,2.5,3
2n=2 where n=1 would be -0.5 to -2.5 when done from -1.5
explain how we have -0.5 to 0.5 as well as -3 to -2.5 and 3 to 2.5
we have double the gain we should, present.
just by inserting 2n and 2n+1.
so unless how this happens is understood, we should probably explore it. Wouldn't you agreee?
if nothing else, we add to our knowledge bank of human collecterd knowledge.
if we succeed in finding a looping mechanism, we can end oil dependance.
win win, either way, as long as we investigate.
thats why i have issues trusting what's been said. why i have doubt. I can't wrap my head around the way expansion can seem to work when we break things down. the math don't make sense to me, unless we have a perpetual natural element that we missed.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 09:52:09
notice it uses the same 0.5 and 2.5 as well as -0.5 and -2.5....
Post by: paul cotter on 11/10/2022 10:06:54
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 11:18:57
can you point me to an explanation of the effects of 2n+1 and 2n interactions like described?
Please?
sense its nonsense, it should be fully explored.
either that, or you just haven't wrapped your head around it enough to realize, that within 2n+1=3 where n=1 where 2n=6 where n=3 and 2n+1=7 where n=3, that we have a double gap with +2 shown, by adding our ends and beginning just like in a+b=c+b where b=1.
it takes the -2.5 to -3, with the 2.5 to 3 to make 1. then from -0.5 to 0.5 as another one.
at 2n+1=15, split to 2n+1=3,
(-15,-14,-13), (-12,-11,-10), (-9,-8,-7), (-6,-5,-4), (-3,-2,-1),0,(1,2,3),(4,5,6),(7,8,9),(10,11,12),(13,14,15)
(-15,-14,-13)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(-12,-11,-10)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(-9,-8,-7)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(-6,-5,-4)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(-3,-2,-1)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
0 (gain location)
(1,2,3)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(4,5,6)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(7,8,9)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(10,11,12)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
(13,14,15)=(2n+1=3 where n=1)
((-15,-14,-13),(-12,-11,-10))=(2n=6 where n=3)
(-9,-8,-7)= (2n+1=3 where n=1) (gain location)
((-6,-5,-4),(-3,-2,-1))=(2n=6 where n=3)
0 (gain location)
((1,2,3),(4,5,6))=(2n=6 where n=3)
(7,8,9)=(2n+1=3 where n=1) (gain location)
((10,11,12),(13,14,15))=(2n=6 where n=3)
so. what would your way of breaking down and explaining a similar step system be?
pair it with:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/b8pbnqdhnu
for explosive gains.
what we are doing is giving ourselves more than spot that operates as zero within a smaller system. it splits just like Choas theory logistics maps shows. heck the calculator somehow follows a perfect path but goes offscreen, showing that it might circumnavigate a numbers sphere via z axis.
but, i'm full of nonsense. You guys don't even consider if natural numbers lie on a sphere instead of our normal line constructs of counting.
Odds, evens, odds
evens, odds, evens.
that seems to make two triangles which gives us an ability to measure loss per step between whole and real numbers, but only if we have mass and energy both present, meaning past mass's creation in atomic building.
if energy has to be equal to the first step, and mass starts when the second step starts, it all lines up.
if atoms create sound or vibrations, they emit energy, meaning they are a natural perpetual system.
perpetual does not mean indestructible. it doesn't mean no expiration date. It just generates in excess, an ability needed to have continuality dependent on more than one atom. if its energy=1, an atom cannot effect its surroundings. but 1.001 it can.
Now, electron travel paths can have a lot of movement that compresses down energy.
to figure that out requires a lot of info. working that far is beyond my capabilities, currently.
You guys act like me checking perpetual constructs is a bad thing. if nothing else it adds to humanities knowledge pool. What harm could come to investigating it?
but what harm could come from not investigating it?
could we potentially never complete our standard model if no one ever thinks to see if its based in perpetual systems because someone said they can't exist?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 12:08:23
like numbers being spheres.
target area:
(n-xn)-(n-yn)=1 where 0<x<1 where x>y where y+x=1
if 0<x<1, and y+x=1, then 0<y<1
if x=0.55, y=0.45
(n-0.55n)-(n-0.45n)=1
(0.55,1.1,1.65,2.2,2.75,3.3,3.85,4.4,4.95,5.5,6.05)
(0.45,0.9,1.35,1.8,2.25,2.7,3.15,3.6,4.05,4.6,5.05,5.6,6.05)
1-0.55>1-0.45=0.1
2-1.1>2-0.9=0.2
3-1.65>3-1.35=0.3
4-2.2>4-1.8=0.4
5-2.75>5-2.25=0.5
6-3.3>6-2.7=0.6
7-3.85>7-3.15=0.7
8-4.4>8-3.6=0.8
9-4.95>9-4.05=0.9
10-5.5>10-4.5=1 (our sphere diameter size)
11-6.05>11-4.95=1.1
12-6.6>12-5.4=1.2
13-7.15>5.85=1.3
(n-xn)-(n-yn)=1 where 0<x<1 where x>y where y+x=1
if 0<x<1, and y+x=1, then 0<y<1
if x=0.55, y=0.45
10-5.5>10-4.5=1 (our sphere diameter size)
n=10 where x-y=0.1
from this we can infer:
n=5 where x-y=0.2
n=1 where x-y=0
n=20 where x-y=0.05
knowing this limit, we can limit things with whole numbers like Collatz Conjecture for physics interactions.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 12:23:21
Unless you have tried to test possible perpetual systems, you can't outright deny them from personal knowledge.Yes I can.
Because of this.
That wouldn't work. Noether's theorem guarantees that such a perpetual motion machine cannot exist:
Why are you ignoring the mathematical proof that you are wrong?
Don't you like science?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 12:27:37
like i asked. what's wrong with chasing knowledge of possible perpetual systems.
it could explain our unknown gains. with all traditional scientists following the thought that it can't exist, few try to understand if people missed something. considering the matter to antimatter mutual destruction line was only confirmed in 2012.
"What makes antimatter unique is that when antimatter comes in contact with its regular matter counterpart, they mutually destroy each other and all of their mass is converted to energy. This matter-antimatter mutual annihilation has been observed many times and is a well-established principle. Jul 25, 2014"
so. if matter and antimatter are mutual destructive, what is the relation between mass and energy?
what if there is a 9 step solution to convert them back and forth?
isn't fission releasing energy stored in mass? leaving a radioactive effect?
apparently, you like studying science but not progressing it.
energy cannot be created nor destroyed, except under special circumstances.
I'm asking if there might be a perpetual based natural system to create energy. say possibly in atoms. possibly in a few cosmological systems?
does inertia have a form? how does nature treat inertia?
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 12:45:59
I hate scientists that allow another to set or limit the way they think.It's not scientists who are the limit here.
It's the nature of the universe.
You can waste as much time as you like trying to get round it.
But, do you understand why some of us would rather you didn't clutter up the site with your pointless rambling?
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 12:46:39
what's wrong with chasing knowledge of possible perpetual systems.It is known to be a total waste of time.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 13:24:58
π-(3^1.1-1.2^1.1+1-1/60+1/33+1/600)=-6.474385213170439547662684971158e-7
or the border suggestion?
but wait, you assume its a waste of time because you were told it was. hear something enough, you believe it. especially when people hound you about it, in example, look at the effort your taking to convince me it don't exist, when you have pretty much admitted what you think of inspecting for it.
lol. stockholm syndrome is an effect that many mathematicians and physicists should learn about. the more time you spend with something, the less you begin to question how you see it. That's the inherit nature of things. science is no different. You get told something is impossible enough, you don't need to see or understand if it's possible, you believe it. the fact that you don't consider the possibility that one may be used in atoms for sound or vibrations (both energy) is laughable. but yet, that is your definition of science. so, what does nature do with inertia?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 13:30:01
the ghost particle interaction is made up of charge, but positioned by the electron cloud. its not a particle, but acts as a particle. it exists between the shared walls that become a rectangle between particles.
Its a shining example of where nature would use what i'm talking about.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 13:33:01
pay close attention to wake zone interactions. Like a boat. two parts. by the nucleus and not near the nucleus. Its limited size prevents locomotion theory.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 13:34:32
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 13:51:48
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/jiim8hx4mb
Singularity Particle Systems (hexagonal atom) overtime:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/cqhjfp9sle
Magnetism:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/zjiyoixopm
+1 Ripple Effect of Growth, Chaos Theory
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/b8pbnqdhnu
Basic Perpetual math
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/yfuslieaxf
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1glfOpH4WQdiH6VJI_HrSnH-HT-yxbnz7?usp=sharing
all my work on it, so far. summed up. well. the stuff that will be easiest to kinda work with.
when i separate 9 and 10 via 10^2-9^2, it's for the greater systems and relations to atoms.
we split it. It calls for 4 layers like the electron shell diagram. multiverse and greater. which explains why we see so much light. there will be a lens effect from certain systems being flattened on skins of other systems. (sol system is an example)
that's dependent on electrons swaying charge allocation in neutrons and protons creating the ghost particle interaction. sorry i can't explain it better.
The electron and flip work in tandem with + and - to create a four part line. it must flip to keep patterns steady. ---- to -+-+ to ---- to -+-+.
This is mostly in charge (leaving mass and spin steady,) and goes so fast it appears neutral.
(-1,0,1) is to electron, proton, neutron,
as (1,2,3) is to electron, neutron, proton.
if electron= point, proton=line, neutron=triangle.
electron=active force, proton=inertia battery (depleted), neutron= inertia battery (charged)
electron=-1
where proton=+2
where neutron=-2+1 (mirror)
if proton mass=3, neutron mass=5
2n+1=3 where n=1
2n+1=5 where n=2
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 15:36:37
just like chasing alternative ways to find pi approximates, right?Well... yes.
In order to verify that your new approximation is correct, you need to know what pi is to a batter accuracy than your approximation.
So, you are putting effort into finding out something you already know.
But, in that case of perpetual motion machines, we know they won't work.
Do you understand that?
Do you realise that your efforts will be in vain?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:02:21
all i did was take nature and minimalize it.
look up nassim haramein and his work on flower of life.
might I specifically suggest the 64 tetrahedron breakdown by planc.
also, Robert Edward Grant.
how does nature build pi, since we know pi. how does nature build it?
my suggesting is doubling phi then removal. where we build phi with pi being halved then increasing it.
kind of a chicken or egg first situation.
even though eggs came first. before the chicken evolved.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:12:43
In order to verify that your new approximation is correct, you need to know what pi is to a batter accuracy than your approximation.
So, you are putting effort into finding out something you already know.
But, in that case of perpetual motion machines, we know they won't work.
Do you understand that?
Do you realise that your efforts will be in vain?"
this kind of language shows that its more important to you that i admit defeat in someone else's work, than that i follow scientific scrutiny by verifying. which i think we can actually, unverify with my work, some statements that have been made.
Noether's theorem may prove under normal circumstances, but does it allow sway to be involved?
does it account for possible stacking micro-vibrations?
a perpetual atom requires no big bang, but allows an indefinite timespan.
if a big bang occurs, how does time move around it? before it? what excites the big bang. in this theory, its explainable.
tesseracts send energy faster than speed of light. its always sending energy bidirectionally. hence why our universe expands in the beginning. because it has incoming energy because of a separation of time by relative association of system we are talking about. meaning a universe has different time characteristics then a multiverse.
the universe, breaks down into expansion and contraction, allowing the higher layers expansion only. except the tesseract interaction keeps it stable. feeding internally its ability to stay stable.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:18:08
the blue triangles represent 3 queen chambers.
the two red are the sizing of the smaller of the two great pyramids.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 16:19:48
You don't understand that Noether's theorem shows that you can't get perpetual motion.
If you understood it you wouldn't be posting waffle like "
but does it allow sway to be involved?
does it account for possible stacking micro-vibrations?
The things about science is not just that you try to think of new things, but also that you start by learning what is already known.
Newton talked about "standing on the shoulders of giants".
You appear not to want to climb that far.
(For what it's worth, yes, I know. Hooke wasn't tall. It's debatable)
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 16:21:02
before you say flower of life is not an acceptable tool.I wasn't going to bother.
Emmy Noether saved me the trouble of reading your prattle.
It's a pity you won't let her spare you writing it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:31:56
So that's "no".ever heard of Voynich Manuscript?
You don't understand that Noether's theorem shows that you can't get perpetual motion.
If you understood it you wouldn't be posting waffle like "but does it allow sway to be involved?
does it account for possible stacking micro-vibrations?
The things about science is not just that you try to think of new things, but also that you start by learning what is already known.
Newton talked about "standing on the shoulders of giants".
You appear not to want to climb that far.
(For what it's worth, yes, I know. Hooke wasn't tall. It's debatable)
check page 63v.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1THatvBe1hp6lQRsTmgqYOgGht58D9O5I/view?usp=sharing
seems to me like a european church wanted to sway our approach to physics. why?
matter to antimatter reaction. negating forces that can unlock an antimatter stream of changed air?
by the way. why do you feel the need to prove me wrong. for me to admit to being wrong?
scary thought. maybe it's because of your uncertainty in what is being spoke about.
ask why i haven't tried building it... its because i see enough signs that it may have existed already.
have an amazing day.
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Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:33:19
Emmy Noether saved me the trouble of reading your prattle.
It's a pity you won't let her spare you writing it.
its a pitty you can't think without emmy's permission, or feely,
or act like a decent human being towards another human being. lol. but yet, still not wrong.
science has been mislead. voynich manuscript. study it. page 63v, then return to the atomic weight breakdown problem.
1500's too far back to insert bad math into physics, nonrules being made rules, because no one could defeat it in time.
science is commonly accepted conjecture bro. not guaranteed fact.
by the way. Ramses defeated the "water people" between 2000 bc and 1000 bc. never heard of again. people of atlantis?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:40:53
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Disk_of_Sabu
gives us 1,000 years, roughly, of possible perpetual motion existance before Ramses destroyed the water people
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 16:41:59
science is commonly accepted conjecture bro. not guaranteed fact.
Do you know what a theorem is?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 16:44:16
pay close attention "by means of accepted truths"
thanks for proving my point!
ACCEPTED TRUTHS
by very commonly accepted definition.
wanna talk to me like a child anymore?
or should i talk to you that way since you ignored and asked anyway, like a child?
*edit. sorry kryptid, I thought i was still being told i'm wrong by the same guy, you had disappeared for a bit, didn't expect you." lol.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:00:18
the more of us that realize the "commonly accepted" nature of physics, and test it, the more we can actually propel physics research. that is what i'm trying to do.
Post by: paul cotter on 11/10/2022 17:02:15
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 17:04:21
the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 17:06:20
disc of sabu could be an artifact from the other perpetual model.No, it can't.
Because PM is impossible.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:06:36
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?
physics stays the same.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:08:20
Because PM is impossible.
I've said good day. now i'm gonna ask that you refrain contact. you expect to be heard while you shout that i'm speaking nonsense. you have even stated your not reading what is being said. so, at this point you are replying to harass me. have a great rest of your day.
You haven't the mindset to contemplate the truest natures of existence, until you doubt what you think you know.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:12:25
I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.unless, like me, he's ignored because he realizes that science has a heading that won't find a solution.
due to wrongfully accepted, but accepted, rules that don't apply.
which is more concievable, that we have no idea how energy pops up in space, or that European institutions didn't want to be ex-communicated, so they allowed religious pressure to sway things.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:15:28
break it down by 5 particles (standard)
or 6 (hexagonal)
4.002/10=0.4002
4.002/12=0.3335
play with weights and see if you can balance it without a/10 leading you to be overweight.
because i gurantee it won't ever balance in 5. 6 it will. Collatz Conjecture has shown us that.
5 is prime, and odd, which forces a 2n+1=5, not a 2n=6 situation.
it splits and goes un-even in balance, always uneven during breakdown.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:23:14
I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.I don't like the way Haramein operates, almost never citing another's work. but look into his work.
i'm not talking about atoms being overtly overpowered. through electron movement, most of it's power is diminished.
I'm talking 0.001 of excess energy per cycle. minutely overpowered. so small that it seems stable. like mass seems stable but may be holographic.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:38:17
deuterium=2.014 amu (1 electron + 1 proton +1 neutron)
Helium=4.002 (stable) (2 electron + 2 proton +2 neutron)
4.002/2=2.001
2.001/5=0.4002
0.4002+0.2001=0.6003
0.4002-0.2001=0.2001
0.2001 electron
0.4002 proton
0.6003 neutron
0.6003+0.4002=1.0005 (lighter than hydrogen)
0.6003+0.4002+0.2001=1.2006 (way too light for deuterium)
0.6003-0.10005=0.50025
0.4002+0.10005=0.50025
0.2001 electron
0.50025 proton
0.50025 neutron
0.50025+0.2001=0.70035
0.50025+0.50025+0.2001=1.2006
0.50025-0.050025=0.450225
0.50025+0.050025=0.550275
0.2001 electron
0.450225 proton
0.550275 neutron
0.2001+0.550275=0.750375
0.2001+0.550275+0.450225=1.2006
like i said. a balancing issue is shown.
gotta love chaos theory and collatz conjecture. its as if n/2 evens and 0.5n are nearly the same thing lol!
whereas:
4.002/12=0.3335
electron=0.334
proton=0.667
neutron=1
0.334+0.667=1.001 (under hydrogen)
0.334+0.667+1=2.001 (under deuterium)
2*(0.334+0.667+1)=4.002 (helium exact)
allowing:
electron=-1 (movement)
proton= +2 (movement)
neutron=-2+1 (movement)
or :
point=electron where line segment=proton, where triangle=neutron, where square=atom. (number theory by shapes)
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 17:55:03
the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:58:36
here you go. a lesson about language. it can be shaped by man's hand with ill intent just like your behavior shows.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 17:59:23
yes the rules are the same.i answered.
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?
physics stays the same.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:01:20
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:05:25
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 18:09:49
you didn't add to it. like real childish bro.I didn't need to add to it.
It's your job to answer it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:11:46
\yes the rules are the same.i answered.
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?
physics stays the same.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.
twice now i have shown this to you. like i've been saying. please refrain from harassment if not giving equal opportunity to be heard. I know understanding me is difficult, but you are not making it easier if anyone is interested in hearing it out. you are trolling. its very self disrespectful actually. you should be better, but here you are. repeating but not given equal strides. is your ego in jeopardy or something?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:12:44
hydrogen=1.00784 u (1 electron + 1 proton)can you explain this?
deuterium=2.014 amu (1 electron + 1 proton +1 neutron)
Helium=4.002 (stable) (2 electron + 2 proton +2 neutron)
4.002/2=2.001
2.001/5=0.4002
0.4002+0.2001=0.6003
0.4002-0.2001=0.2001
0.2001 electron
0.4002 proton
0.6003 neutron
0.6003+0.4002=1.0005 (lighter than hydrogen)
0.6003+0.4002+0.2001=1.2006 (way too light for deuterium)
0.6003-0.10005=0.50025
0.4002+0.10005=0.50025
0.2001 electron
0.50025 proton
0.50025 neutron
0.50025+0.2001=0.70035
0.50025+0.50025+0.2001=1.2006
0.50025-0.050025=0.450225
0.50025+0.050025=0.550275
0.2001 electron
0.450225 proton
0.550275 neutron
0.2001+0.550275=0.750375
0.2001+0.550275+0.450225=1.2006
like i said. a balancing issue is shown.
gotta love chaos theory and collatz conjecture. its as if n/2 evens and 0.5n are nearly the same thing lol!
whereas:
4.002/12=0.3335
electron=0.334
proton=0.667
neutron=1
0.334+0.667=1.001 (under hydrogen)
0.334+0.667+1=2.001 (under deuterium)
2*(0.334+0.667+1)=4.002 (helium exact)
allowing:
electron=-1 (movement)
proton= +2 (movement)
neutron=-2+1 (movement)
or :
point=electron where line segment=proton, where triangle=neutron, where square=atom. (number theory by shapes)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:17:56
a general proposition not self-evident but proved by a chain of reasoning; a truth established by means of accepted truths.
Physics is the natural science that studies matter, its fundamental constituents, its motion and behavior through space and time, and the related entities of energy and force. Physics is one of the most fundamental scientific disciplines, with its main goal being to understand how the universe behaves.
The word "physics" comes from Ancient Greek: φυσική (ἐπιστήμη), romanized: physikḗ (epistḗmē), meaning "knowledge of nature".[8][9][10]
knowledge:
facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.
key parts:
accepted truths
with its main goal being to understand how the universe behaves
knowledge of nature
the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.
meaning, we are not fully knowledgeable in exact scientific operations of physics. meaning we still have room to clear old theorems once disproven.
and force is the most abundant thing in the universe, when paired with mass.
e=mc^2.
which means
e/c^2=m
meaning Einstein missed mass interactions in his theory of everything. He didn't realize the flip particle. We didn't have information access like we do now. Nor did we have as much work done on Collatz Conjecture. which leads to how we break the 5 point standard atomic model.
or balance the 5 point standard atomic model and possibly win a nobel prize lol.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 18:25:29
can you explain this?Yes.
You have written random words and numbers.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 18:29:17
You have not yet provided a reply that actually answers the question.the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?
What does the temporal symmetry of the laws of physics have to do with the structure of water?
It's not harassment to ask someone a question on a debating site (and if they don't actually answer it, to ask again).
But, if you don't want to answer then debating isn't your thing.
That's OK, go and find a blog site somewhere.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:37:19
2^n=2 where n=1
2^n=4 where n=2
2^n=8 where n=3
2^n=16 where n=4
2^n=32 where n=5
2^n=64 where n=6
electron shell diagram:
layer 1=2
layer 2=8
layer 3=18
layer 4=32
so change qualities of 2 in layer 3.
layer 3=16+2
have them act on layer 2 and layer 4 in opposition to the rest of layer 3.
layer2= 16 or 4 as well as 8
layer 4=16 or 64 as well as 32
because relativity matters on all levels.
its a compression system within the electron shell diagram, that removes 1 layer.
removing that one layer grants extra energy.
but to remove this one layer, and still keep 2^n in tact, nature reversed some qualities. or its spin or something like that. positive to negative spin.
for the link to compression, we can't use a pentagram. it has to be a hexagram. it has to match water.
water compression has to have an origin based in atomic structure.
in 4 layers, it could be compressing 6 layers of 2^n
I have to apologize here, but my mind hasn't been able to link what difference might actually be present in the two electrons. I want to say matter's spin direction instead of antimatter. I'm still unsure there.
there was a paper in a bio journal that used horus eye fractions as senses. it equated 2^n to horus eye, eye of ra. Sorry, i don't have a link and don't remember what it was called. but it helped inspire my work. But i'm pretty sure Ancient Egypt fully understood. just not minute details.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:40:35
words get harder for me. I have autism. but i'm trying to actually seek help in pushing this further, due to my said limits.You have not yet provided a reply that actually answers the question.the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?
What does the temporal symmetry of the laws of physics have to do with the structure of water?
It's not harassment to ask someone a question on a debating site (and if they don't actually answer it, to ask again).
But, if you don't want to answer then debating isn't your thing.
That's OK, go and find a blog site somewhere.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 18:50:21
a hexagon system in water allows compression.What did you think that meant?
Are you aware that iron is elastic and has a cubic structure?
Neither alcohol, nor mercury has a hexagonal structure, but one is more compressible than water and the other is less so.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:53:14
oxygen=8,a hexagon system in water allows compression.What did you think that meant?
Are you aware that iron is elastic and has a cubic structure?
Neither alcohol, nor mercury has a hexagonal structure, but one is more compressible than water and the other is less so.
hydrogen=1
8+1+1=10.
that's why it matters. the atomic number interactions. and the fact that water and life go hand in hand.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 18:55:16
iron's cubic structure is what allows magnetism so easily with iron. it allows ease of aligning internal tesseracts. remember, iron has a quantum environment as well. meaning its kind of nature's premier tesseract.a hexagon system in water allows compression.What did you think that meant?
Are you aware that iron is elastic and has a cubic structure?
Neither alcohol, nor mercury has a hexagonal structure, but one is more compressible than water and the other is less so.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 19:00:49
oxygen is 8. see the parallel?
80/8=10
8+1+1=10 (compression)
8*10=80 (non-compression) expands with temperature.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 19:10:20
at it's fastest, light as:
(energy, energy, energy) or light as (energy, mass, energy)
while appearing as nearly the same, we can see a difference in our middle.
we have to ask ourselves, can we design an experiment to truly prove that light is always massless?
or does it move at a rate so fast it can switch and seem massless?
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 19:23:41
Adding bad numerology does not make things better.oxygen=8,a hexagon system in water allows compression.What did you think that meant?
Are you aware that iron is elastic and has a cubic structure?
Neither alcohol, nor mercury has a hexagonal structure, but one is more compressible than water and the other is less so.
hydrogen=1
8+1+1=10.
that's why it matters. the atomic number interactions. and the fact that water and life go hand in hand.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 19:57:50
oxygen=8
carbon=6
hydrogen=1
ethyl alcohol is C2H5OH
C2 is 12.
H5 is 5
so 17
O is 8
H is 1
17+9
28
28-10=18 (minus neon's stability)
18-10=8 (minus neon's stability)
because our cube is made from a molecule, compression instead of magnetism capabilities is present. (think of hinges or springs)
Post by: Origin on 11/10/2022 20:06:22
atomic numbers. (counting by electron + proton + neutron, hydrogen=deuterium for this thought.)This seems to be made up numerology and other nonsense.
oxygen=8
carbon=6
hydrogen=1
ethyl is C2H5OH
C2 is 12.
H5 is 5
so 17
O is 8
H is 1
17+9
28
28-10=18 (minus neon's stability)
18-10=8 (minus neon's stability)
because our cube is made from a molecule, compression instead of magnetism capabilities is present. (think of hinges or springs)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:06:50
think of mod 6 as quantum. matter and antimatter are positive and negative.
electron=-3,-2,-1,1,2,3 (quarks) (2n=6)
proton=-3,-2,-1,1,2,3 (leptons) (2n=6)
neutron=-2,-1,0,1,2 (bosons) (higgs boson as zero) (2n+1=5)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:23:20
See, the issue is, you guys insult and insinuate that i'm full of it. but look in the mirror, as i ask in possibilities and earn abuse from you. Look back and read it. Imagine it being said to you, repeatedly, as you continue to ask questions, which is what science is about....
then consider your darker days, mentally. ask yourself if you would continue trying on your darker days. See our actions matter. even if a priest told you a man in the sky would forgive you. doesn't mean that your actions don't have consequences, in the here and now. you decide your own conduct. look back and see if its the way you want to be. diminishing open mindedness, and attempts at understanding or would you rather be the type to actually push science by thought. it does less harm then ripping apart particles. particles that help form our time and gravity. each little bit stacks up. thats why collatz is as of yet, unsolved.
Good day gentleman. And I beseech you to find more kindness and patience with people. The condescending behavior should be beneath you.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 20:24:41
You posted a lot of meaningless nonsense.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:25:20
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:26:04
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:31:08
because you can't find an explanation for cosmologically seemingly free energy.
it infers we may need to recheck some things, to once again rule out possibilities.
you might hear that if you want busy trying to find fault in how i approach things, in ways that you don't wrap your head around well.
realize even Leonardo Da Vinci worked with flower of life. so i'm not using it out of nowhere. its one of the oldest, and most widespread, of ancient math emblems. golden mathematics.
Leonardo da Vinci (Codex Atlanticus, fol. 307v)
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 20:35:33
you can't find an explanation for cosmologically seemingly free energy.If you mean the big bang, look through the site carefully and you will find the bit where I pointed out that the big bang is the one time when Noether's theorem doesn't prevent an increase in energy.
(Because the symmetry is broken; there is no "before" the BB.)
It's not that I refuse to think this stuff through.
It's that I already did and I know it's a crock.
And you still need to stop playing at numerology on a science page: it's just silly.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 20:36:12
realize even Leonardo Da Vinci worked with flower of life. so i'm not using it out of nowhere. its one of the oldest, and most widespread, of ancient math emblems. golden mathematics.Lots of old ideas turned put to be wrong.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:37:08
Zero-point energy + perpetual systems in atoms, mimicked in cosmological systems.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:40:44
so what if Noether's theorem is wrong?realize even Leonardo Da Vinci worked with flower of life. so i'm not using it out of nowhere. its one of the oldest, and most widespread, of ancient math emblems. golden mathematics.Lots of old ideas turned put to be wrong.
could perpetuality explain:
Cosmological constant problem
Post by: paul cotter on 11/10/2022 20:41:20
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:49:52
we haven't cracked dark matter. what if dark matter is only an option because of things set in motion, say 500 years ago. or even 2000. you ever notice that the unexplained roman dodecahedrons have 4 rings like the electron shell diagram? i wonder if they understood atomic and quantum. but that poses a bigger question. how?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron#/media/File:2018_Rheinisches_Landesmuseum_Bonn,_Dodekaeder_&_Ikosaeder.jpg
wait. notice pentagons and triangles. seems incompatible. lol.
however. change the pentagons to hexagons. compatibility rises.
bisecting a pentagon goes from corner to middle of a line segment.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 20:55:09
so what if Noether's theorem is wrong?It isn't.
That's the thing about maths; once you prove something, you know it is true.
Did you not know that?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 20:57:15
could it relate to what we call fission and fusion, now?
could ancient peoples have triggered antimatter reactions in air to make the church want to hide it?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:00:02
Scientists test the existing theories, repeatedly, all the time. Perpetual motion or free energy are absolutely impossible and you are wasting your time and energy trying to prove they are possible. You will one day, realise this. None of this is meant to be a personal attack on you. When error is promoted, it is imperative to counter it, otherwise progress will be stunted.thank you for at least having decency and treating me like a human being. Not barking orders at me. not being combative and demanding. not being arrogant.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:05:21
(-2,-1,0,1,2)
2n is about comma's where 2n+1 is about the numbers.
(-2,-1,1,2)
2n is about numbers where 2n+1 is about the comma's.
it mirrors.
step taken, vs where a step lands.
the stride of said step, vs where a stop can occur with a multiplier.
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 21:19:37
pay close attention "by means of accepted truths"
thanks for proving my point!
Those "accepted truths" are like the premises in deductive reasoning: if A is true and B is true, then C must also be true. If John is a human, and humans are mortals, then John must be a mortal. The "accepted truths" in that proof are that John is a human and that humans are mortals. The conclusion of the argument, that John is a mortal, must necessarily follow if the premises are true. In order to prove the proof wrong, then you must either show that John is not a human or show that not all humans are mortal.
It works the same way with Noether's theorem. In the case of energy conservation, the accepted truth is that of time symmetry. If time symmetry holds, then conservation of energy must also hold. So in order to make conservation of energy not hold, you would have to somehow build a machine that breaks time symmetry. An arrangement of magnets isn't going to do that.
the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model.
It applies to any model with symmetries.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.
Proofs don't evolve. The Pythagorean theorem will be just as valid 10 million years from now as it is today.
due to wrongfully accepted, but accepted, rules that don't apply.
If your model doesn't have symmetries, then it doesn't sound like a model of our universe (which does have symmetries).
which is more concievable, that we have no idea how energy pops up in space, or that European institutions didn't want to be ex-communicated, so they allowed religious pressure to sway things.
Proofs don't count as "religious pressure".
so what if Noether's theorem is wrong?
That would only be the case if symmetries don't hold.
could ancient peoples have triggered antimatter reactions in air
Where would they have gotten the antimatter from?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:25:09
it has symmetry, but not similar symmetry that is proposed by a 5 point atomic model.
5 is prime.
6 is first perfect number.
6=3*2*1=3+2+1
collatz shows 5 must grow first, before breaking down through symmetry.
if the flap of a butterflies wings can build a hurricane, it does it one plus one, at a time.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 21:39:57
could ancient peoples have triggered antimatter reactions in airNo.
Post by: Bored chemist on 11/10/2022 21:40:49
the dangerous perpetual motion, or what the ancients called alchemy,What the ancients called alchemy was not to do with perpetual motion.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:42:09
that states a line. if in 5 point atomic model, total destruction. if in 6, near, because our electron is in force form already.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:42:40
cite your references for that statement?the dangerous perpetual motion, or what the ancients called alchemy,What the ancients called alchemy was not to do with perpetual motion.
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 21:44:14
the dangerous perpetual motion, or what the ancients called alchemy, using lodestone as magnetic force to induce movement might just create it
Noether's theorem won't let it, but if you want to continue to pursue this and try to build one yourself, be my guest.
keep in mind matter and antimatter show near complete mutual destruction.
That may be true, but you'd actually need antimatter for that. Where would they have gotten it?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:55:42
if the theorem has a way to be defeated, your arugement for where they got it would be defeated. I'm not gonna argue in loop with a theorem that supposedly disqualifies any chance of pereptual systems, while we still have a lot of unexplained phenomenon.the dangerous perpetual motion, or what the ancients called alchemy, using lodestone as magnetic force to induce movement might just create it
Noether's theorem won't let it, but if you want to continue to pursue this and try to build one yourself, be my guest.keep in mind matter and antimatter show near complete mutual destruction.
That may be true, but you'd actually need antimatter for that. Where would they have gotten it?
if perpetual constructs exist in nature, (which we haven't fully defined) then they may have a matter to antimatter reaction. hence where the "water people" would have went. gone, due to being ate up by constant matter to antimatter reactions within the very center of the forces present. so a 5 part particle has no chance of breaking down to form helium's stability. a 6 part does. at the same time it allows relative breakdown of gravity by atomic weight units in the quantum spectrum.
what happens when vacuum hits above what we can normally attain?
a force mechanism as described would create that kind of negative pressure, while still allowing air to be present. hence why it would be able to create it.
the line model, I would need help finalizing details and safety mechanisms. with how dangerous the 9 spheres in one version could be, I think it's best to find help before i build. wouldn't you? If wrong, egg on my face. if right, correcting science could achieve great things. like free energy and oil independence. the risk is worth the reward. if possible.
i'm gonna quit interacting though. since you don't think its possible. enjoy your day, please.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 21:58:38
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 22:04:01
if the theorem has a way to be defeated, your arugement for where they got it would be defeated.
I don't see how Noether's theorem is related to where ancient people would have gotten antimatter from.
if perpetual constructs exist in nature, (which we haven't fully defined) then they may have a matter to antimatter reaction.
Can you explain how?
what happens when vacuum hits above what we can normally attain?
What do you mean by that? What more is there to remove from a vacuum?
a force mechanism as described would create that kind of negative pressure, while still allowing air to be present. hence why it would be able to create it.
I, again, don't follow. If air is present, then it's not a true vacuum.
its funny that dark matter and dark energy is more believable and acceptable work then thoughts on perpetual constructs. one actually has evidence.
Dark matter and dark energy have evidence.
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perpetuality. atoms vibrate and emit sound.
They may vibrate in some quantum sense even at absolute zero, but that doesn't represent the net creation of energy. That particular form of perpetual motion is therefore allowed, as it doesn't violate conservation of energy. They wouldn't always emit sound, either. They would only emit sound if they have enough energy to do so.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 22:16:59
if it can exist, its because of matter to antimatter relations (line)
meaning a similar, greater relation might be present in mass and force.
it's the next step up from matter as mass.
the how:
by using two mass interactions, that start and end not on 0, but at a=0.5 and b=2.5
b-a=2
2n=2 where n=1
2n+1=3 where n=1
its a mimicked vacuum by force, where air pressure keeps vacuum negated. it goes to zero pressure, then makes antimatter with what is still present.
and while dark matter and dark energy have evidence, it could also be seen as evidence of perpetual based energy creation in expansion.
They may vibrate in some quantum sense even at absolute zero, but that doesn't represent the net creation of energy. That particular form of perpetual motion is therefore allowed, as it doesn't violate conservation of energy. They wouldn't always emit sound, either. They would only emit sound if they have enough energy to do so.
if it exists, we can attempt to mimic it. 2^n where n=diameter is key. n=1 is sphere 1. n=1 is sphere 2.
2^n marks magnet locations per it's sphere. btw its dangerous. i've been studying it, while trying to bring attention to it.
force is created when we decrease the size of each sphere slightly, causing vibrations, or will to move.
the image may not be exact. just what i can gather of how it may operate.
the electron is located where neutron should be, as the neutron includes the higgs boson, our acting 0 interface.
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 22:20:50
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 22:23:11
I still don't understand you.I'm doing my best. I wish i had the words better.
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 22:25:32
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 22:28:46
It might help if you used terms as they are normally used in science.think i haven't heard that before. it requires an education, which I didn't get. i was busy fighting mental illness while being abused. one day i was thinking about 2^n and circles, and things went crazy in my mind. wondering if.
magnets are basically a binary force mechanism. north and south. which allows special interaction in 2^n. to create will to move.
just 3 layers shows the will to move. when confined to create power, it will move. problem is it's hard to control. (keep in mind this image is 2d, not 3d)
Post by: Kryptid on 11/10/2022 22:30:16
it requires an education
It's never too late. You don't even have to enroll in a school. There are lessons online you can take.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 22:32:12
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 22:35:05
autism plus dissociative identity disorder as well as schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type. Self taught is best for me. no time requirements, nor grades to earn self judgement. but this is something you should check into. there are natural instances of perpetuality. it makes better sense then dark matter and energy. only from the right vantage points though.it requires an education
It's never too late. You don't even have to enroll in a school. There are lessons online you can take.
consider what we use in mathematics to show infinity. 2. its also the lowest even, and the only prime even.
but why does the lowest even work in math to show infinity?
why is it in Collatz. why is it in chaos theory?
our 3d environment can use 3 lines (6 rays that travel indefinitely).
x,y,z as well as -x,-y,-z.
also, being uneducated but thinking about possible solutions, is why we are here. its a less limited take on what may be behind some things. as to what it may apply to, cosmology and atomic theory. the 9 layers represent atomic cloud travel channels. But electrons can switch "lanes"
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 11/10/2022 22:58:35
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 12/10/2022 18:24:33
Post by: JLindgaard on 13/10/2022 17:13:45
if Noether's theorem is flawed, perpetual motion can exist.
I know someone at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands who is having a design of mine examined by a mathematician. It uses what Newton called an external force which his laws of motion allows for. Although a simple buoyancy design will work.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 17:59:35
dissociative identity disorder as well as schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type.Is the only reason why this
what if, because of time and the multiverse, nature tricked humanity into looping its time, to progress humans to a certain level (just before normalizing space travel), before releasing them into say, the latter 2/3rd's of overall time of a universe, in multiplicity? kind of shooting them out at different time and points because of when and which parallel ends a time loop? if we use electron shell diagram's four levels, for 3 levels past the multiverse, (mega-verse, giga-verse, tetra-verse) we could actually explain excess light to being from another universe, as shared data. We would need to initiate a time loop. is it possible that man made atoms (if nature does not make them) might be looping time?makes sense to you.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 18:10:55
Have a good day Bored chemist.
you've done said you don't follow the way i speak. why repeat yourself like a broken record. I hear you. well understood. You need not comment again, if my work is beyond your comprehension. I'm sorry, that you cannot grasp that small principles can have great effect, especially psychologically.
Its kind of like this. We make decisions like your decision to ignore me.
when we focus on raw data too much, and get too absorbed into some parts of chasing knowledge, we convince our own self that what we cannot break cannot be broken by another.
If atoms make sound or vibrate (they do) they are perpetual. One could be in astral systems as well.
a circle shows two parts. a border or circumference and an area. if, say, our sol system was part of a border, that would explain its elongated effect. it would work much like a converging meniscus lens does, on light. this would act as a compressor on light, or decompressor if going opposite direction. the sol system would also have overall poles (like the earth and sun), allowing interaction of the cosmological perpetual systems.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 18:39:26
if Noether's theorem is flawed, perpetual motion can exist.
I know someone at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands who is having a design of mine examined by a mathematician. It uses what Newton called an external force which his laws of motion allows for. Although a simple buoyancy design will work.
magnetism is said to stop because it finds comfort, so we must think of a system to always seek comfort.
a 4 sphere system may not be enough. it may be just right. Humanity lacks the engineering and production capabilities. a 9 sphere creates void of pressure, but at sea level this creates an exchange point when the center hits 0 pressure and 0 vacuum. antimatter is held with electromagnetic force, so it will not self-destruct the device's magnets, where it will spread more than it hits the devices structural cage. I wish you luck with your design. I'm around if you would like a second opinion.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 18:42:26
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 18:48:19
gotta love the impromptu 5 room problem design (mathematics problem)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_room_puzzle#:~:text=This%20classical%2C%20popular%20puzzle%20involves,a%20continuous%20line%20only%20once.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 19:00:00
I've checked. this forum doesn't easily allow blocking.Blocking someone on a discussion forum doesn't make sense.
If you are not prepared to discuss things, you are in the wrong place.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 19:01:10
hydro ram pumps could possibly work in a closed system.No. They really won't.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Energy is a conserved quantity.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 19:02:48
keep it on subject.You first
gotta love the impromptu 5 room problem design (mathematics problem)
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 19:03:29
magnetism is said to stop because it finds comfort,By whom is that said?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 19:15:19
I don't have a problem with discussing theory and science.
I do have a problem where you keep pushing buttons in your own speech behavior.
talking on my mental health. what sense i make to you. where you don't even reply to half the questions i ask you.
you've been extremely rude. sorry if i don't accept your poor behavior. Sorry if it offends you that you speaking on me instead of theory is seen rudely in my eyes. which you don't get to set by the way. The way I perceive things. Only your intent. so please. keep blowing up convos and ignoring me say please leave me alone. your ego is showing bro, and it's not a pretty look. you keep making statements, not very scientific. we propose hypothesis. so, like I've said, please, discontinue this repeated overstep of talking on me, my mental health, or your ability to understand me.
Does it bother you that bad that the convo is over your head?
someone done admitted that a special allowance is in atoms for perpetual systems.
i asked if one could be useful to describe expansion in cosmological systems.
and apparently that earned your scorn.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 19:22:01
unless, mass is inertia reserve. as in two different mass systems interacting at 0.5 and 2.5 to stay off of zero, creating our use of infinity in mathematics bro. collatz conjecture extends to near infinite domains because of a simple 3n+1, and n/2. chaos theory logistics maps use a 0.5 multiplier.hydro ram pumps could possibly work in a closed system.No. They really won't.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Energy is a conserved quantity.
2n+1 always produces odds with whole numbers.
2n always produces evens with whole numbers.
neutrons show boson interactions which is different from proton and electron.
if we consider 1 particle 1 step movement.
electron is negative associated. -1
proton is positive associated. +2
-1+2=1
neutron is neutral, but after electron and proton
-2+1=-1
1+(-1)=0
force=mass*acceleration.
meaning, it shows a direct line interaction between mass and force like matter and antimatter.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 19:25:51
keep it on subject.You firstgotta love the impromptu 5 room problem design (mathematics problem)
so the breakdown of 2n+1 that mimics the 5 room problem is not on subject. right. bro that 2n+1=3, 2n+1=5, 2n+1=7
then it's (2*(2n+1=3))+1=7 done to show positive and negative interactions.
which also shows 2n=2, 2n=4, 2n=6, when you don't consider the zero line.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 19:27:32
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but thisdissociative identity disorder as well as schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type.Is the only reason why thiswhat if, because of time and the multiverse, nature tricked humanity into looping its time, to progress humans to a certain level (just before normalizing space travel), before releasing them into say, the latter 2/3rd's of overall time of a universe, in multiplicity? kind of shooting them out at different time and points because of when and which parallel ends a time loop? if we use electron shell diagram's four levels, for 3 levels past the multiverse, (mega-verse, giga-verse, tetra-verse) we could actually explain excess light to being from another universe, as shared data. We would need to initiate a time loop. is it possible that man made atoms (if nature does not make them) might be looping time?makes sense to you.
this is the kind of rudeness i'm talking about. you have no business saying this. I know i'm crazy, so what? are you perfectly mentally sane yourself?
have you never had a down day?
have you never had a breakup?
a bad thought on yourself or another?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 19:29:41
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but thisdissociative identity disorder as well as schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type.Is the only reason why thiswhat if, because of time and the multiverse, nature tricked humanity into looping its time, to progress humans to a certain level (just before normalizing space travel), before releasing them into say, the latter 2/3rd's of overall time of a universe, in multiplicity? kind of shooting them out at different time and points because of when and which parallel ends a time loop? if we use electron shell diagram's four levels, for 3 levels past the multiverse, (mega-verse, giga-verse, tetra-verse) we could actually explain excess light to being from another universe, as shared data. We would need to initiate a time loop. is it possible that man made atoms (if nature does not make them) might be looping time?makes sense to you.
this is the kind of rudeness i'm talking about. you have no business saying this. I know i'm crazy, so what? are you perfectly mentally sane yourself?
have you never had a down day?
have you never had a breakup?
a bad thought on yourself or another?
and to further that, i did not ask for the damage life handed me to make me this insane person willing to continue to ask questions that we should be asking, as in new discoveries can shed new light on past results. we have to continue to work retroactively.
so why is my insanity, which i did not ask for but must deal with, your target of aggression?
do you have that little of a heart?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 19:30:24
have a good day sir. and i hope you find what will make you better. the best you, you could ever achieve.I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but thisdissociative identity disorder as well as schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type.Is the only reason why thiswhat if, because of time and the multiverse, nature tricked humanity into looping its time, to progress humans to a certain level (just before normalizing space travel), before releasing them into say, the latter 2/3rd's of overall time of a universe, in multiplicity? kind of shooting them out at different time and points because of when and which parallel ends a time loop? if we use electron shell diagram's four levels, for 3 levels past the multiverse, (mega-verse, giga-verse, tetra-verse) we could actually explain excess light to being from another universe, as shared data. We would need to initiate a time loop. is it possible that man made atoms (if nature does not make them) might be looping time?makes sense to you.
this is the kind of rudeness i'm talking about. you have no business saying this. I know i'm crazy, so what? are you perfectly mentally sane yourself?
have you never had a down day?
have you never had a breakup?
a bad thought on yourself or another?
and to further that, i did not ask for the damage life handed me to make me this insane person willing to continue to ask questions that we should be asking, as in new discoveries can shed new light on past results. we have to continue to work retroactively.
so why is my insanity, which i did not ask for but must deal with, your target of aggression?
do you have that little of a heart?
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 19:54:10
I know i'm crazy, so what?So you are unlikely to make well thought through statements about physics.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:07:13
like destroying particles and creating nuclear weapons are well thought through?I know i'm crazy, so what?So you are unlikely to make well thought through statements about physics.
the destruction of forests by humans is well thought through?
The way we react and treat each other?
we are all a bit damaged.
You just judge my damage. and I'm good on that.
who are you to say if I am of sound mind to put good thought into things?
why should anyone hear you over me?
I've made arguments already about the psychological effect of being in love with a system is akin to Stockholm syndrome. the unbalance of ego bringing an unnerve.
Its debate bro. if you can't handle the thought that you may have absorbed improper information, I'm sorry. but then again I'm not, because you chose a career in science.
What if relativity applies to numbers. where its interactions of space that create everything? what if to make a system that describes the universe, we use no numbers, but interactions of x,y and z? z+z+z is the same as 3z.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 20:15:12
who are you to say if I am of sound mind to put good thought into things?It's not me who is saying that; it's the evidence.
Perpetual motion does not work.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 20:15:51
the destruction of forests by humans is well thought through?Was it "well thought through " to consider deforestation as physics?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:30:48
science says consider evidence.who are you to say if I am of sound mind to put good thought into things?It's not me who is saying that; it's the evidence.
Perpetual motion does not work.
evidence states dark matter has not been found.
evidence states religious pressure through ex-communication could influence rulers.
alchemy was banned longer than science was.
history is important, so is realizing that influence can have negative impacts. like we see with social media and teens today.
If an organization was to want to control information, to control access to knowledge, for people's own safety, they might just influence the hiding of technology and push for things to be hidden, within knowledge, by showing a different route to find results that is similar but not exact.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:33:28
we are a part of nature, are we not?the destruction of forests by humans is well thought through?Was it "well though through " to consider deforestation as physics?
does a chainsaw require knowledge of physics to design it?
does it's fuel not require a chemist? even if they are bored?
oil pumping and production?
does the need for timber not come from building things like houses, which is engineering, and is bound to physics?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:35:02
evidence. vs does not work. you have a conundrum. I cannot fathom what you mean. if we have evidence, accepted conjecture of what is, how can we say it does not work?who are you to say if I am of sound mind to put good thought into things?It's not me who is saying that; it's the evidence.
Perpetual motion does not work.
please. explain.
Post by: Kryptid on 13/10/2022 20:36:06
evidence states dark matter has not been found.
There is evidence for its existence.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:36:16
I think you meant to say, its likely hood of being possible, probable and buildable is zero, especially with today's technology.evidence. vs does not work. you have a conundrum. I cannot fathom what you mean. if we have evidence, accepted conjecture of what is, how can we say it does not work?who are you to say if I am of sound mind to put good thought into things?It's not me who is saying that; it's the evidence.
Perpetual motion does not work.
please. explain.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:37:27
Max Planck: "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."evidence states dark matter has not been found.
There is evidence for its existence.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 20:39:45
range=n where 2n+1=all positive (+1 is for 0 in negative to positive aspect)
Post by: Kryptid on 13/10/2022 21:00:50
Max Planck: "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
That doesn't change the fact that there is evidence for the existence of dark matter.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 21:04:39
Max Planck: "Ego is the immediate dictate of human consciousness."
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 21:06:46
unless it's evidence of cosmological perpetual expansion.Max Planck: "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."
That doesn't change the fact that there is evidence for the existence of dark matter.
People can see our existence as evidence of god, if that is the position, they choose to see things from.
Our beginning mindset sets our ability to perceive and discern results.
by the way, I'm actually a believe in dark matter and dark energy, just in different capacities.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 21:11:55
think of matter and energy as existing in a tesseract. 0.5 to 2.5.
They go dark as they are under heavy compression to travel faster.
Post by: Kryptid on 13/10/2022 21:21:42
unless it's evidence of cosmological perpetual expansion.
The evidence for dark matter has nothing to do with the expansion of the Universe.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 21:25:53
Funny, I've seen arguments for dark matter based on expansion. I guess it's each of our perception's.unless it's evidence of cosmological perpetual expansion.
The evidence for dark matter has nothing to do with the expansion of the Universe.
shoot. that reads rudely. My bad. I guess it's the article sources.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 21:35:34
Like an expanded common multiplier with division, addition, subtraction and parenthesis included.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rz2Ex6dzyaj4BYc4rtuMAk7bpGyYiJkj/view?usp=sharing
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 22:04:27
I cannot fathom what you mean.Keep watching the video about Noether's theorem.
It might sink in eventually.
Post by: Kryptid on 13/10/2022 22:05:12
Funny, I've seen arguments for dark matter based on expansion.
Where at? What were they?
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 22:07:53
evidence states dark matter has not been found.Yes it has.
alchemy was banned longer than science was.As far as I'm aware, science was never really banned.
if we have evidence, accepted conjecture of what isWe don't.
It's just that you think we do.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 22:21:52
If i find one of them again, i'll be sure to link it here for you.Funny, I've seen arguments for dark matter based on expansion.
Where at? What were they?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 22:36:16
you have a lot of stock in a theorem.I cannot fathom what you mean.Keep watching the video about Noether's theorem.
It might sink in eventually.
a general proposition not self-evident but proved by a chain of reasoning; a truth established by means of accepted truths.
Post by: Bored chemist on 13/10/2022 23:11:05
you have a lot of stock in a theorem.It's a mathematical theorem.
Once it is proved correct, that's it.
It is correct.
You are , in effect, saying "But what if 2 and 2 is not 4?".
That's not science, is it?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 23:22:21
oh really? i'm saying 2+2 does not equal four? in effect.you have a lot of stock in a theorem.It's a mathematical theorem.
Once it is proved correct, that's it.
It is correct.
You are , in effect, saying "But what if 2 and 2 is not 4?".
That's not science, is it?
please show me where i said anything similar.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 23:23:01
Statements. When scientists ask questions.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 13/10/2022 23:25:12
1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)
8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)
16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)
32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)
using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
step would be n going from 1 to 2
quantity of stops available
steps/ quantity of stops available in steps
2n/2n+1 when n≥1 and whole number
2 steps/ 3 quantity of stops available in steps.
4 steps/ 5 quantity of stops available in steps.
6 steps/ 7 quantity of stops available in steps.
8 steps/ 9 quantity of stops available in steps.
12 steps/ 13 quantity of stops available in steps.
32 steps/ 33quantity of stops available in steps.
½^n=2^-n via 2 steps (including zero step)
n=(-1,0,1)
½^n=(2,0,½)
2^n=(½,0,2)
1/2y=-0.25 where y=-0.5
1/2y=0
1/2y=0.25 where y=0.5
Y uses 2 steps in 3 quantity of stops available in steps.
1/2z+1=0.75 where z=-0.5
1/2z+1=1 where z=0
1/2z+1=1.25 where z=0.5
Z uses 2 steps in 3 quantity of stops available in steps.
2a=-1 where a=-0.5
2a=0 where a=0
2a=1 where a=0.5
A uses 2 steps in 3 quantity of stops available in steps.
2b+1=0 where b=-0.5
2b+1=1 where b=0
2b+1=2 where b=0.5
B uses 2 steps in 3 quantity of stops available in steps.
4c=-2 where c=-0.5
4c=-1 where c=-0.25
4c=0 where c=0
4c=1 where c=0.25
4c=2 where c=0.5
C uses 4 steps in 5 quantity of stops available in steps.
4d+1=-1 where d=-0.5
4d+1=0 where d=-0.25
4d+1=1 where d=0
4d+1=2 where d=0.25
4d+1=3 where d=0.5
D uses 4 steps 5 quantity of stops available in steps.
8e=-4 where e=-0.5
8e=-3 where e=-0.375
8e=-2 where e=0.25
8e=-1 where e=-0.125
8e=0 where e=0
8e=1 where e=0.125
8e=2 where e=0.25
8e=3 where e=0.375
8e=4 where e=0.5
E uses 8 steps in 9 quantity of stops available in steps.
8f+1=-1 where f=-0.5
8f+1=0 where f=-0.125
8f+1=1 where f=0
8f+1=2 where f=0.125
8f+1=3 where f=0.25
8f+1=4 where f=0.375
8f+1=5 where f=0.5
F uses 6 steps in 7 quantity of stops available in steps.
16g=-4 where g=0.5
16g=-3 where g=-0.1875
16g=-2 where g=-0.25
16g=-1 where g=-0.0625
16g=0 where g=0
16g=1 where g=0.0625
16g=2 where g=0.25
16g=3 where g=0.1875
16g=4 where g=0.5
G uses 8 steps in 9 quantity of stops available in steps.
16h+1=-3 where h=-0.5
16h+1=-2 where h=-0.1875
16h+1=-1 where h=-0.125
16h+1=0 where h=-0.0625
16h+1=1 where h=0
16h+1=2 where g=0.03125
16h+1=3 where h=0.0125
16h+1=4 where h=0.1875
16h+1=5 where h=0.25
16h+1=6 where h=0.3125
16h+1=7 where h=0.375
16h+1=8 where h=0.4375
16h+1=9 where h=0.5
H uses 12 steps in 13 quantity of stops available in steps.
32i=-16 where i=-0.5
32i=-15 where i=-0.46875
32i=-14 where i=-0.4375
32i=-13 where i=-0.40625
32i=-12 where i=-0.375
32i=-11 where i=-0.34375
32i=-10 where i=-0.3125
32i=-9 where i=-0.28125
32i=-8 where i=-0.25
32i=-7 where i=-0.21875
32i=-6 where i=-0.1875
32i=-5 where i=-0.15625
32i=-4 where i=-0.125
32i=-3 where i=-0.09375
32i=-2 where i=-0.0625
32i=-1 where i=-0.03125
32i=0 where i=-0
32i=1 where i=0.03125
32i=2 where i=0.0625
32i=3 where i=0.09375
32i=4 where i=0.125
32i=5 where i=0.15625
32i=6 where i=0.1875
32i=7 where i=0.21875
32i=8 where i=0.25
32i=9 where i=0.28125
32i=10 where i=0.3125
32i=11 where i=0.34375
32i=12 where i=0.375
32i=13 where i=0.40625
32i=14 where i=0.4375
32i=15 where i=0.46875
32i=16 where i=0.5
I uses 32 steps in 33 quantity of stops available in steps.
32j+1=-15 where j=-0.5
32j+1=-14 where j=-0.46875
32j+1=-13 where j=-0.4375
32j+1=-12 where j=-0.40625
32j+1=-11 where j=-0.375
32j+1=-10 where j=-0.34375
32j+1=-9 where j=-0.3125
32j+1=-8 where j=-0.28125
32j+1=-7 where j=-0.25
32j+1=-6 where j=-0.21875
32j+1=-5 where j=-0.1875
32j+1=-4 where j=-15625
32j+1=-3 where j=-0.125
32j+1=-2 where j=-0.0.09375
32j+1=-1 where j=-0.0625
32j+1=0 where j=-0.03125
32j+1=1 where j=0
32j+1=2 where j=0.03125
32j+1=3 where j=0.0625
32j+1=4 where j=0.09375
32j+1=5 where j=0.125
32j+1=6 where j=0.15625
32j+1=7 where j=0.1875
32j+1=8 where j=0.21875
32j+1=9 where j=0.25
32j+1=10 where j=0.28125
32j+1=11 where j=0.3125
32j+1=12 where j=0.34375
32j+1=13 where j=0.375
32j+1=14 where j=0.40625
32j+1=15 where j=0.4375
32j+1=16 where j=0.46875
32j+1=17 where j=0.5
J uses 32 steps in 33 quantity of stops available in steps.
a to b
2n+1=3 as (-1,0,1) as a
2n+1=3 as (0,1,2) as b
bottom=+1
top=+1
b to c
2n+1=3 as (0,1,2) as b
2n+1=5 as (-2,-1,0,1,2) as c
bottom= -2
top=0
c to d
2n+1=5 as (-2,-1,0,1,2) as c
2n+1=5 as (-1,0,1,2,3,4) as d
bottm=+1
top=+2
d to e
2n+1=5 as (-1,0,1,2,3,4) as d
2n+1=9 as (-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4) as e
bottom=-3
top=0
e to f
2n+1=9 as (-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4) as e
2n+1=7 as (-1,0,1,2,3,4,5) as f
bottom=+3
top=+1
f to g
2n+1=7 as (-1,0,1,2,3,4,5) as f
2n+1=9 as (-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4) as g
bttom:-3
top=-1
g to h
2n+1=9 as (-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4) as g
2n+1=13 as (-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) as h
bottom=+1
top=+5
h to i
2n+1=13 as (-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) as h
2n+1=33 as (-16,-15,-14,-13,-12,-11,-10,-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) as i
bottom=-13
top=+7
i to j
2n+1=33 as (-16,-15,-14,-13,-12,-11,-10,-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) as i
2n+1=33 as (-15,-14,-13,-12,-11,-10,-9,-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) as j
bottom=+1
top=+1
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/10/2022 08:48:36
oh really? i'm saying 2+2 does not equal four? in effect.OK, you said
please show me where i said anything similar.
if Noether's theorem is flawed, perpetual motion can exist.But we know it isn't because it's maths and proven.
So, the question you should be asking yourself is why you think something known to be true, might be false?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 08:56:35
Because the theorem has not been defeated yet, doesn't mean it can't be. proven is accepted, not stated as pure fact. our discernment of fact is not nature's discernment of fact. You may not realize this, but the whole of humanity itself is just as capable and culpable to mistakes as each of us as individuals. When higher stakes are involved, and people intentionally misleading things, (if they know and realize the truth) they can make things seem true and hard to counter, hard but not impossible. the mere existence of the stated perpetual system behind atomic sound and vibration is it's first strike. if something is allowed once, its an exception, if it's allowed twice, it's the break itself. so if perpetuality is behind any cosmological expansion, it's broken. Mankind's limits on engineering and production is why we won't attain a physical perpetuality mechanism of our own design. but inspecting the systems can still teach us a lot. otherwise please explain how breakdown of the 5 point particle system can break down to 3 atomic states with 5 being a prime. lol. I expect you to ignore this like all the other difficult questions i ask as you have done shown your ego. your inability to question what you believe to be true. We should question our results, and our path to arrive at them.oh really? i'm saying 2+2 does not equal four? in effect.OK, you said
please show me where i said anything similar.if Noether's theorem is flawed, perpetual motion can exist.But we know it isn't because it's maths and proven.
So, the question you should be asking yourself is why you think something known to be true, might be false?
perpetual systems require exactly timed systems. not available with our production. it has to be just right. 0 margin of error. It requires nature's accuracy. Mankind's accuracy is not enough.
the question you should be asking yourself, how many scientists have narrow-mindedly or purposely added things that later turned out to be false, but for a time was accepted as a possible mechanic of physics or mathematics. (Religious people do get swayed by religious beliefs)
even Einstein unpublished his own theory of everything. Why, because Einstein could not solve it. why, because the 5 point particle system is flawed. it does not account for ghost particle interactions that effect charge. electrons are where we see major differences between atoms. that and number of protons and neutrons. but do the protons themselves really have differences by atomic number? do the neutrons?
keep in mind, a ghost particle is not a real particle, but is a reaction in particles that behaves like one, independently. this is most likely done as vibrations in the matter, in the area's between protons and neutrons. meaning we have to realize it's possible existence to even look for supporting data.
but i'm wrong. because you can't grasp the idea that a theorem writer might not have considered an unknown fact (matter to antimatter mutual destruction, with excess energy leftover) as time as the singularity. time being the interaction of force and matter, set by a flip particle. if protium lacks the neutron it should also lack the flip's interaction affects where deuterium should gain it and tritium should show high instability, because of it lacking its proton.
oh wait. from wiki.
Isotopes
Main article: Isotopes of hydrogen
Blausen 0530 HydrogenIsotopes.png
Hydrogen discharge (spectrum) tube
Deuterium discharge (spectrum) tube
Hydrogen has three naturally occurring isotopes, denoted 1
H, 2
H and 3
H. Other, highly unstable nuclei (4
H to 7
H) have been synthesized in the laboratory but not observed in nature.[54][55]
1
H is the most common hydrogen isotope, with an abundance of more than 99.98%. Because the nucleus of this isotope consists of only a single proton, it is given the descriptive but rarely used formal name protium.[56] It is unique among all stable isotopes in having no neutrons; see diproton for a discussion of why others do not exist.
2
H, the other stable hydrogen isotope, is known as deuterium and contains one proton and one neutron in the nucleus. All deuterium in the universe is thought to have been produced at the time of the Big Bang, and has endured since that time. Deuterium is not radioactive, and does not represent a significant toxicity hazard. Water enriched in molecules that include deuterium instead of normal hydrogen is called heavy water. Deuterium and its compounds are used as a non-radioactive label in chemical experiments and in solvents for 1
H-NMR spectroscopy.[57] Heavy water is used as a neutron moderator and coolant for nuclear reactors. Deuterium is also a potential fuel for commercial nuclear fusion.[58]
3
H is known as tritium and contains one proton and two neutrons in its nucleus. It is radioactive, decaying into helium-3 through beta decay with a half-life of 12.32 years.[50] It is so radioactive that it can be used in luminous paint, making it useful in such things as watches. The glass prevents the small amount of radiation from getting out.[59] Small amounts of tritium are produced naturally by the interaction of cosmic rays with atmospheric gases; tritium has also been released during nuclear weapons tests.[60] It is used in nuclear fusion reactions,[61] as a tracer in isotope geochemistry,[62] and in specialized self-powered lighting devices.[63] Tritium has also been used in chemical and biological labeling experiments as a radiolabel.[64]
Unique among the elements, distinct names are assigned to its isotopes in common use today. During the early study of radioactivity, various heavy radioactive isotopes were given their own names, but such names are no longer used, except for deuterium and tritium. The symbols D and T (instead of 2
H and 3
H) are sometimes used for deuterium and tritium, but the symbol P is already in use for phosphorus and thus is not available for protium.[65] In its nomenclatural guidelines, the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) allows any of D, T, 2
H, and 3
H to be used, although 2
H and 3
H are preferred.[66]
The exotic atom muonium (symbol Mu), composed of an antimuon and an electron, can also be considered a light radioisotope of hydrogen.[67] Because muons decay with lifetime 2.2 µs, muonium is too unstable to exhibit observable chemistry.[68] Nevertheless, muonium compounds are important test cases for quantum simulation, due to the mass difference between the antimuon and the proton,[69] and IUPAC nomenclature incorporates such hypothetical compounds as muonium chloride (MuCl) and sodium muonide (NaMu), analogous to hydrogen chloride and sodium hydride respectively.[70]
tritium has one electron to two flips, causing instability.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 09:20:10
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 09:32:20
if its negative poles of the neutron and proton its interacting with, it sets the middle to positive. --+-
if its positive poles of the neutron and proton its interacting with, it sets the middle to negative. -+-+
which has more to do with what its electron passed by before than it does on the patterns itself.
--+-
-+-+
--+-
-+-+
--+-
-+-+
--+-
-+-+
is one full spin of the electron around deuterium.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 09:39:14
He
is an extremely unstable isotope of helium. Its nucleus, a diproton, consists of two protons with no neutrons.
highly unstable with two PROTONS. NO NEUTRONS. NO flip ghost particle.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 09:41:23
it's so fast we can't record it.
it might just effect 1 quality, 2 or three. charge, mass, and spin. Of the neutron, and only of a paired proton.
tritium might pair one neutron to two protons.
it would link radioactive decay directly to balance of neutron and proton.
further evidence of a perpetual based nature of time.
duality is mass and energy.
singularity is time.
the duality depends on singularity movements. conversion always requires time. time is a part of force. force requires mass and acceleration. acceleration includes speed, distance, and time.
time is pretty stable. but we can edit distance to affect speed, by 2n+1 where 2^n=1/2^-n.
by halving distance, we double speed.
at a point, vibrations turn to spin.
the angle of magnets and position should allow the flux lines to work as artificial entanglements. that's how they realize where they can go, creating will to move.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 11:07:58
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/10/2022 11:28:32
Because the theorem has not been defeated yet, doesn't mean it can't beYes it does.
once again you are doing this
You are , in effect, saying "But what if 2 and 2 is not 4?".
That's not science, is it?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 12:25:55
use the red and blue lines to stay of zero. it allows a full return. it never has to touch zero.Because the theorem has not been defeated yet, doesn't mean it can't beYes it does.
once again you are doing thisYou are , in effect, saying "But what if 2 and 2 is not 4?".
That's not science, is it?
0.5 to 0.706
2.5 to 3.535
0.706-0.5=0.206
3.535-2.5=1.035
1.035*0.206=0.21321
1.035/0.206=5.0242718446601941747572815533981 (showing our ghost particle interaction access above 5)
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/10/2022 17:15:49
use the red and blue lines to stay of zero. it allows a full return. it never has to touch zero.Does not even parse.
It's not English.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:29:52
so a system that never touches zero by using 0.5 to 2.5 doesn't parch? or maybe you just don't know what the **** i'm talking about. bro. i've asked, repeatedly for you to drop it.use the red and blue lines to stay of zero. it allows a full return. it never has to touch zero.Does not even parse.
It's not English.
i even showed that 2n vs 2n+1 includes a modified zero system to allow looping. it shows growth in positive spectrum instead of negative.
spectrum=.
used to classify something, or suggest that it can be classified, in terms of its position on a scale between two extreme or opposite points.
2n+1 is the spectrum scale as it can show positive to negative or all positive, while accounting for zero.
meaning what appears to be negative to positive can be all positive spectrum, naturally.
time itself is known to be birectional, with the torus being its considered shape. its only considered that way when you leave out the multiverse, megaverse, gigaverse and tetraverse, which coincidently copies the electron shell diagram in layers.
you know what, why speak when i'm not getting heard. i'll shut the **** up. if anyone needs my input, blame bored chemist and his incessant pushes for me to. **** off bored chemist. for real.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:38:37
two pathways, for two masses.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:43:45
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:48:07
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:49:21
You should master english before you master physics bro. its not that hard of a language. because i spoke clearly. you just chose to not try and hear me. you already made up in your mind, that i'm not worth hearing. so neither are you.use the red and blue lines to stay of zero. it allows a full return. it never has to touch zero.Does not even parse.
It's not English.
Post by: Kryptid on 14/10/2022 17:51:17
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:55:24
It's true that you are using English words, but the way you are using them is admittedly hard to understand.autism. but you guys act as if i'm not trying. so i'm done trying. **** it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 17:56:43
green and purple (green follows purple for a shot time, a shared area, hiding green) are both routes it can follow. two masses, one energy. meaning, we would have to figure out how the expansion works. but yet, its not allowed because of a theorem that "no one can disprove". unless we thought about it in flawed technique, and it was never actually proven. we just considered it proven. this allows us to circumnavigate zero on two paths. energy=passage of time.
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/10/2022 18:02:13
because i spoke clearlyYou didn't.
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/10/2022 18:02:47
autism.Do you think that's rare around here?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:06:22
do you think your entitled to speak to me?autism.Do you think that's rare around here?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:06:55
need me to dumb it down to neanderthal for you?because i spoke clearlyYou didn't.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:07:41
I'm sorry if you struggle to be understood as well. but you're being a total douchebag.autism.Do you think that's rare around here?
You need to leave me alone. please.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:11:32
inertia=a property of matter by which it continues in its existing state of rest or uniform motion in a straight line, unless that state is changed by an external force.
reserve=refrain from using or disposing of (something); retain for future use.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:16:11
electron adds a -1 movement.
proton adds a +2 movement
neutron stacks a +1 with -2 movement.
it shows neutrality when paired. a neutron alone shows an overall -1 charge, like the electron, when considered on its own.
Post by: Bored chemist on 14/10/2022 18:36:47
do you think your entitled to speak to me?Yes. It's part of the point of a forum.
Did you not realise that?
but you're being a total douchebag.It's my understanding that it does not help deluded individuals if you encourage them to believe their delusions.
You need to leave me alone. please.
I believe that pointing out that you are posting word salad is better for you, as well as better for the forum.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:44:24
I believe that you are being an ignoramus. To each their own. I'll forgo replying for now on.do you think your entitled to speak to me?Yes. It's part of the point of a forum.
Did you not realise that?but you're being a total douchebag.It's my understanding that it does not help deluded individuals if you encourage them to believe their delusions.
You need to leave me alone. please.
I believe that pointing out that you are posting word salad is better for you, as well as better for the forum.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 18:45:25
To suggest that entanglements set the neutrons charge, oh no, how horrid.
to suggest that the proton and neutron squaring holds the charge... blasphemy! lol.
that suggestion, if it exists, could change probabilities of perpetual systems in nature.
as in the number of them that exists.
is that all it takes to be considered a kook in your book?
kook is such a funny word.
my words get worse when i try to explain how it supposedly works.
I know, I can't find the words. But i can see the math, in my own special way.
I've been working hard since it hit me to be understood.
each time i try, i usually end up with bans, because people like to comment on my stability.
2 years of dedicated research. i put my main love on a slower self pace. I'm a poet.
my first release: https://www.amazon.com/Kilted-Weirdos-Poetry-Insane-Mind/dp/1087957664
but, let's save the trees. I'd rather give you a free copy.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vabiqvE2zibKdPq2cQtW2IGr9HroejPG?usp=sharing
I asked questions and got statements back. Why I was wrong. Not an open thought of, what if I'm right, even though we see much evidence that seems to state the contrary.
Post by: Kryptid on 14/10/2022 19:41:37
autism. but you guys act as if i'm not trying.
I never said you weren't trying. If we can't understand the way you word your sentences, even if you are trying, that likely means this won't develop into a constructive dialogue.
I'm considering locking this because this is devolving into an argument between you and Bored Chemist. If you find Bored Chemist's words inflammatory, there is a way to block members so that you won't see their replies. Go to your profile by clicking on your username, then click on "Modify Profile" > "Buddies/Ignore List" > "Edit Ignore List", then type in that member's name.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 14/10/2022 20:00:08
wormhole travel. time portals. All connected to variations of 2^n=1/2^n via 2n+1=3.
a circle-based system (cylinder) would allow motion to transfer. a sphere would allow for perpetual systems.
the line technique turns a circle into a line. it straightens it out, in a way. it just reimagines it.
a torus based design could unlock time travel through wormholes.
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/10/2022 00:47:48
he's blocked.Really?
This isn't an easy thing to google or whatever.
I'd really like to hear from someone with medical knowledge in the field because I'm hoping to provide the best response for those who have problems.
When we see posts that are clearly at odds with reality, and from someone with a declared mental heath issue, should we
(1) agree with their delusions
(2) point out the inconsistencies between their delusions and reality
(3) ignore the facts and "accommodate" their unreal views
(4) something else?
What's the right policy here? (Right in the sense of most likely to help the poster).
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 06:22:47
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 06:27:24
trust that after two decades living with my mental illness, years of therapy and actually learning to love myself, that i'm mostly better now. To the point that while i've gotten a little abbrasive to your abuse, I've still remained adamant on my position, tried to be clear of thoughts behind it, and why I think it's useful.he's blocked.Really?
This isn't an easy thing to google or whatever.
I'd really like to hear from someone with medical knowledge in the field because I'm hoping to provide the best response for those who have problems.
When we see posts that are clearly at odds with reality, and from someone with a declared mental heath issue, should we
(1) agree with their delusions
(2) point out the inconsistencies between their delusions and reality
(3) ignore the facts and "accommodate" their unreal views
(4) something else?
What's the right policy here? (Right in the sense of most likely to help the poster).
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/10/2022 11:38:35
tried to be clear of thoughts behind itThat's the problem
You have tried, but failed.
Post by: paul cotter on 15/10/2022 13:12:29
Post by: Origin on 15/10/2022 13:38:14
trust that after two decades living with my mental illness, years of therapy and actually learning to love myself, that i'm mostly better now.That is great, I am glad that you are doing better. Unfortunately what you have written here appears to be nonsense. I can't make 'heads or tails' of what you are trying to say.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 14:25:04
at least i didn't fail at being a decent human being. why are you still commenting. You that ego triggered?tried to be clear of thoughts behind itThat's the problem
You have tried, but failed.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 15:03:55
Leaving the numerology and rows aside, there are many things that seem impossible now that may become possible in the future. However "free energy" or "overunity" are absolutely impossible. If there was such phenomena we would not have a stable universe such as we have now.Voynich Manuscript. Biernacki ms 408,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
The Voynich manuscript is an illustrated codex hand-written in an otherwise unknown writing system, referred to as 'Voynichese'.[18] The vellum on which it is written has been carbon-dated to the early 15th century (1404–1438),
where manifest destiny kicked off soon after.
look at page 67v. wonder if it states the existence of a holy ghost particle.
regular atomic build:
1/5+2/5+2/5=1
compared to what i'm suggesting:
1/6+2/6+3/6=1
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 15:10:26
then ask questions. like if a ghost particle interaction exists, why don't we see signs of it.trust that after two decades living with my mental illness, years of therapy and actually learning to love myself, that i'm mostly better now.That is great, I am glad that you are doing better. Unfortunately what you have written here appears to be nonsense. I can't make 'heads or tails' of what you are trying to say.
we do. we just don't realize the signs because we think our atomic model is accurate.
We must realize the possibility of something existing before we consider evidence for it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 15:13:55
it would double energy to mass ratio in the universe.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 15:22:39
Leaving the numerology and rows aside, there are many things that seem impossible now that may become possible in the future. However "free energy" or "overunity" are absolutely impossible. If there was such phenomena we would not have a stable universe such as we have now.unless time repeats in the same area. what gives the big bang its energy? tesseracts. they constantly send energy to center. so at the end of a universes life span, it goes to pure energy, is taken apart (mainly by chaos theory) and is then simply restarted. with restarting universes, a multiverse has double the lifespan. at the highest level of the multiverse systems of layers, time is infinite, but can also repair itself. this is because of lower perpetual systems always providing energy. through millions of universes.
btw, origin. thank you for caring. i mean that. we should all care about those we interact with more. it would make the world a better place. that's why i don't prefer to block people, but take time to cool down to where i have the patience for what they say and do.
2^n+1/2(2^n)
96 universes per multiverse.
192 multiverses per mega-verse
384 mega-verses per giga-verse
768 giga-verses per tetra-verse.
768*384=294912 mega-verses per tetra-verse
294912*192=56623104 multiverses per tetra-verse
56623104*96=5,435,817,984 universes per tetra-verse.
electron shell diagram helps describe number of higher levels, as it is the closest interaction to Horus eye. and is what perpetual systems work through.
the tetra-verse simply pushes out over-excess of energy.
at atomic levels, all atoms produce in excess so it's easy to see it as non-perpetual. they are just exchanging data. if all produce in excess (besides isotopes), it balances out by other atoms. some (isotopes) soak up said excess energy to suspend themselves and their lifetime.
Post by: paul cotter on 15/10/2022 17:10:56
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:15:26
the church's reaction to the manuscript shows the relevance.
It shows that the church was looking to destroy evidence of perpetuality.
because perpetual systems are directly against the bible, when understood from physics aspects.
it disproves heaven. unless heaven is the "after" of an advanced civilization.
They kept the ban on alchemy. fusion and fission. tick up, tick down. alchemy.
The book is undecipherable, unless you consider a modification to atomic theory.
the charged neutron particle is stated on page 67v. bottom left corner. in red green blue. look at particle physics. we use red, green, blue.
its bisected, and then a one half piece is further bisected.
Threats of ex-communication could easily control kingdoms.
Kingdoms had armies, which could control flow of science.
The roman catholic church has long been invested in science, while being publicly dismissive.
Post by: Bored chemist on 15/10/2022 18:25:09
why are you still commenting.
I believe that pointing out that you are posting word salad is better for you, as well as better for the forum.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:26:08
Could the sun god be the way ancient people spoke of fusion?
Could the moon god be the way ancient people spoke of fission?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:27:01
Good for you. You have no problem being a bully and douchebag.why are you still commenting.I believe that pointing out that you are posting word salad is better for you, as well as better for the forum.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:31:43
I've asked you several times. You think just because its a forum it gives you the right to talk down on me because life handed me lemons. Well, bro. It just shows how little you care about what affects you bring to people. if truly down, do you think your continued pressure to shut up would be a healthy thing? no. but your ego prevents that thought. you just don't like what i'm talking about. that's your right. it is not your right, however, to continue harassment. I've blocked you. a clear sign of no longer wanting contact. but yet, here you are replying. I still see and get notified of your reply. I'm asking you, politely, to step away. Please. People have seen your warnings. You did what you set out to do. any further is harassment. Your warnings are not disappearing. congrats. you succeeded in being heard with your stubbornness to consider any possibilities other than what you have learned. Do I need to shut up to not be harassed? that would be bullying.why are you still commenting.I believe that pointing out that you are posting word salad is better for you, as well as better for the forum.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:35:00
Any further replies besides apologies for the harassment that has happened already is not warranted, needed, nor appreciated here. You are hijacking scientific discourse because you can't wrap your head around the fact that we don't know if certain things have been swayed by the people who wrote them and are in power.I've asked you several times. You think just because its a forum it gives you the right to talk down on me because life handed me lemons. Well, bro. It just shows how little you care about what affects you bring to people. if truly down, do you think your continued pressure to shut up would be a healthy thing? no. but your ego prevents that thought. you just don't like what i'm talking about. that's your right. it is not your right, however, to continue harassment. I've blocked you. a clear sign of no longer wanting contact. but yet, here you are replying. I still see and get notified of your reply. I'm asking you, politely, to step away. Please. People have seen your warnings. You did what you set out to do. any further is harassment. Your warnings are not disappearing. congrats. you succeeded in being heard with your stubbornness to consider any possibilities other than what you have learned. Do I need to shut up to not be harassed? that would be bullying.why are you still commenting.I believe that pointing out that you are posting word salad is better for you, as well as better for the forum.
if electron= 1n
if proton=2n
if neutron=3n
and if 3n=t (time)
t/1
t/2
t/3.
t/2 and t/3 could use a interaction between them to set energy and mass ratio's. 2n+1.
where as:
t/1 (electron)
t/2 (proton)
t/2 (neutron)
would set neutron and proton to the same set. but we see differences in their qualities. (mass & charge)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:41:26
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 18:43:29
because time is set by the energy to mass convergence of inertia reserve.
crossing a past portal tail with forward portal tail will destroy time.
matter to antimatter mutual destruction. time is that line.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 19:15:21
If a perpetual system exists in atoms, do you really think another one can't exist in space?
or would two make more sense. since odds and evens. positive and negative. even energy comes into active force and inertia. but time, what is the opposite of time? without time, we have no universe at all.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 19:17:23
now look at voynich manuscript from a
electron=1
proton=2
neutron=3
perspective.
look at papal decrees after it went to rome.
think about the roman dodecahedrons.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 19:21:36
because you naysaying is frustrating and will 100%, not help me find my words.
Post by: Origin on 15/10/2022 19:42:38
if electron= 1nThat makes no sense. You realize that at one point you say a neutron = time. This is little more than gibberish.
if proton=2n
if neutron=3n
and if 3n=t (time)
t/1
t/2
t/3.
t/2 and t/3 could use a interaction between them to set energy and mass ratio's. 2n+1.
where as:
t/1 (electron)
t/2 (proton)
t/2 (neutron)
would set neutron and proton to the same set. but we see differences in their qualities. (mass & charge)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 19:48:16
oh yeah? 3n=time= 1 3d movement?if electron= 1nThat makes no sense. You realize that at one point you say a neutron = time. This is little more than gibberish.
if proton=2n
if neutron=3n
and if 3n=t (time)
t/1
t/2
t/3.
t/2 and t/3 could use a interaction between them to set energy and mass ratio's. 2n+1.
where as:
t/1 (electron)
t/2 (proton)
t/2 (neutron)
would set neutron and proton to the same set. but we see differences in their qualities. (mass & charge)
like say t/1+t/2+t/3=t/6
t/6 would be x,-x,y,-y,z,-z for 6. (expansion) (x separates into two rays, so does y and z, meaning from a point we need 6 units of expansion per atomic number that contains electron, proton and neutron)
6. as in deuterium. as in t12=helium.
hey just for fun.
t1+t2+t2=t5
t5*2=t10. helium. (current standard subatomic model)
by the way. collatz conjecture.
3n+1 odds, n/2 evens.
what if the 3 is setting for automatic atomic rollout (a quantum mechanic another words). we are in a 3d environment. lol.
3n+1=10 where n=3
10-1=9 where 9=3^2 (9 is a square in a 2d environment)
maybe this might help.
-0.5 to 0.5 for electron (1n movement)
-1 to 1 for proton (2n movements
-1.5 to 1.5 for neutron (3n movements)
the extra charge is in constant change. making it hard to detect.
set by the entanglement via distance to the electron in the cloud.
e=mc^2
c^2 is its speed, for a complete charge and discharge. it produces 1 mass or 1 energy.
meaning we produce: 1 energy, 1 mass, 1 energy (auto convert to mass), 1 mass(auto convert to energy) 1 energy (auto convert to mass), 1 mass, 1 energy (flip ghost interaction or sound vibrations)
Post by: Origin on 15/10/2022 20:06:41
oh yeah? 3n=time= 1 3d movement?I see you wrote words and numbers but I see no clear meaning.
like say t/1+t/2+t/3=t6t + t/2 + t/3 does most certainly NOT equal t6.
t6 would be x,-x,y,-y,z,-z for 6. (expansion)This just looks like more nonsense. Maybe you could go into more detail?
6.
as in t12=helium.Since you have defined t as time, the equation t12 = helium is saying (12 x time) = Helium, so this too is nonsense.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 20:13:21
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 20:21:14
3(3)+1=10
in a 2d plane, dot matrix approach, we see a square can be made with 9, which makes 10 seek a -z to z interaction. as we are past phi as 1.618033, where 2 is aloud because of 1.618033-1=0.618033, 0.618033/2=0.3090165
2-1.618033=0.381967
0.381967-0.3090165=0.0729505 amount of attraction is left.
phi bounds limits comfort past 2, forcing our +1 to go to z plane, positive or negative. if speaking in force based particles.
I'm still working on it, but it includes modifies collatz as x,y interactions
Singularity Particle Systems (hexagonal atom) repeating:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/jiim8hx4mb
45,46,47
collatz showing only:
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/me1wjvylfo
Post by: Origin on 15/10/2022 20:24:53
time is a measure of energy output on mass is it not?No, it is not.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 20:28:24
When counting, say n. n itself is time. 1 moment of time passes, its now n=2 from n=1. once it passes, it becomes n=3.
because an atom is whole, we can count atoms as time.
deuterium, helium, lithium. (this method shows some time mechanisms.)
because of electron, proton and neutron, we can associate mod 3 as useful.
1/3=dueterium. 2/3=helium. 1=lithium. here we go with squaring again. isn't lithium really sought after for it's use in lithium ion batteries?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 20:34:35
thank you for pointing out my missing division. we humans make mistakes a lot. I learned to backedit to not spam emails on reddit. let me know which is better for corrections like you pointed out.oh yeah? 3n=time= 1 3d movement?I see you wrote words and numbers but I see no clear meaning.like say t/1+t/2+t/3=t6t + t/2 + t/3 does most certainly NOT equal t6.t6 would be x,-x,y,-y,z,-z for 6. (expansion)This just looks like more nonsense. Maybe you could go into more detail?
6.as in t12=helium.Since you have defined t as time, the equation t12 = helium is saying (12 x time) = Helium, so this too is nonsense.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 20:40:08
each has a different rate of movement, but move at a unified overall time. t/6 would be the overall time to generate an electron, proton and neutron.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 20:42:33
its then decompressed via deep space (leaving spheres) to cause energy based vibrations, or even ionic atmosphere interactions, if a planet is severely off-balance. a multiverse could hold 64 different times of one universe.
A universe is the border that sets light speed to 2x, a multiverse sets it to 4x. a mega verse to 8x, giga to 16x, and tetra verse has a dark matter border that reflects light.
quantum is akin to 1d (line interaction) if subatomic is 2d and our environment is 3d.
I have plans tonight. I leave in 1 hour. but i'll be back to see if i can clear up my words better.
you might read back to see if things were corrected by me since. if something wasn't clear, I've tried to edit it.
Post by: Origin on 15/10/2022 21:24:54
because an atom is whole, we can count atoms as time.
because of electron, proton and neutron, we can associate mod 3 as useful.
1/3=dueterium. 2/3=helium. 1=lithium. here we go with squaring again.
imagine black holes sending data to balance a perpetual universe
A universe is the border that sets light speed to 2x, a multiverse sets it to 4x. a mega verse to 8x, giga to 16x, and tetra verse has a dark matter border that reflects light.None of this is science or even logical, so I have no idea how to respond.
I guess all I can say is I hope you have a good day and a better tomorrow.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 21:26:08
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 15/10/2022 21:53:36
Richard P. Feynman
Post by: Colin2B on 15/10/2022 21:58:01
Good for you. You have no problem being a bully and douchebag.Let’s at least pretend we are keeping it friendly and keep off the name calling.
He has a right to question what you are saying
Post by: alancalverd on 15/10/2022 22:55:27
KW: Bring me a working model of your perpetual motion machine, and I will make you unimaginably wealthy. Investors and engineers are standing by, but losing their patience.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 06:15:33
Another candidate heaves into view!help me figure out a way to safely harness it.
KW: Bring me a working model of your perpetual motion machine, and I will make you unimaginably wealthy. Investors and engineers are standing by, but losing their patience.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 06:18:24
No matter how much word salad you write, the laws of physics still prevent perpetual motion.
I guess this is not seen as insulting language. So, I'm good on replies. I don't like open hypocrisy.
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 11:06:20
I guess this is not seen as insulting language.Not if it's true.
Do you realise that posting antiscientific nonsense on a science site, cluttering the board and chewing up bandwidth is douchebaggery?
Post by: Colin2B on 16/10/2022 11:09:41
Word salad is an acceptable term for a collection of words which together do not make any discernible sense. Doucebag is not an acceptable term for another forum member.No matter how much word salad you write, the laws of physics still prevent perpetual motion.I guess this is not seen as insulting language. So, I'm good on replies. I don't like open hypocrisy.
This is a physics forum, so we do expect the laws of physics to be applied to any new hypothesis, or at least a meaningful defence of why they might not apply.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:08:44
douchebaggery is not acceptable language sir. if you can decide that so can i. so your word salad comment. rude as ****. don't reply.I guess this is not seen as insulting language.Not if it's true.
Do you realise that posting antiscientific nonsense on a science site, cluttering the board and chewing up bandwidth is douchebaggery?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:10:07
Scientists at Chalmers University of Technology in Göteborg, Sweden discovered that the atom makes the softest sounds physically possible, identifying that the sound hits a "D-note." The atom's sound is so soft that scientists could not hear it.Sep 12, 2014Word salad is an acceptable term for a collection of words which together do not make any discernible sense. Doucebag is not an acceptable term for another forum member.No matter how much word salad you write, the laws of physics still prevent perpetual motion.I guess this is not seen as insulting language. So, I'm good on replies. I don't like open hypocrisy.
This is a physics forum, so we do expect the laws of physics to be applied to any new hypothesis, or at least a meaningful defence of why they might not apply.
explain it without perpetuality.
if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:17:15
mass=inertia reserve.
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 14:19:03
explain it without perpetuality.Thank you for illustrating what "word salad" means.
if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3.
douchebaggery is not acceptable language sir.You do realise that you just used it, don't you?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:22:37
favor. go read all your comments again. read mine again. see who started using insulting language (not just what you see as insulting) and ramping the other up. You kept coming at me. i got fed up and asked for distance. you kept coming. I'm not aloud to tell you to **** off. i'm not aloud time to collect my words. but yet you can behave however you see fit. get bent bro.explain it without perpetuality.Thank you for illustrating what "word salad" means.
if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3.douchebaggery is not acceptable language sir.You do realise that you just used it, don't you?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:24:08
I guess google and sweden lies!favor. go read all your comments again. read mine again. see who started using insulting language (not just what you see as insulting) and ramping the other up. You kept coming at me. i got fed up and asked for distance. you kept coming. I'm not aloud to tell you to **** off. i'm not aloud time to collect my words. but yet you can behave however you see fit. get bent bro.explain it without perpetuality.Thank you for illustrating what "word salad" means.
if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3.douchebaggery is not acceptable language sir.You do realise that you just used it, don't you?
Post by: Origin on 16/10/2022 14:43:08
I guess google and sweden lies!What do you think that proves?
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 14:43:44
I guess google and sweden lies!No.
The person who tries to say that a Swedish research institute said "if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3."
is lying.
Why do you do it?
see who started using insulting languageTurning up on a science page and talking about perpetual motion is an insult to science.
Yet you keep doing it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:49:20
we have to understand to safely build.
Noether's theorem i guess don't apply to an atom. which makes me ask, what else it might not apply to. is there another exception. but yet, look at your reaction.
i also suggested that 1 moment of time passes for neutron=3, proton=2, electron=1 growth.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:49:59
how does it make sound?I guess google and sweden lies!No.
The person who tries to say that a Swedish research institute said "if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3."
is lying.
Why do you do it?see who started using insulting languageTurning up on a science page and talking about perpetual motion is an insult to science.
Yet you keep doing it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:50:29
you literally just called me a liar bro. leave me the **** alone.I guess google and sweden lies!No.
The person who tries to say that a Swedish research institute said "if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3."
is lying.
Why do you do it?see who started using insulting languageTurning up on a science page and talking about perpetual motion is an insult to science.
Yet you keep doing it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:50:50
how do atoms make sound?I guess google and sweden lies!What do you think that proves?
Post by: Kryptid on 16/10/2022 14:53:38
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:54:25
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:55:13
Atoms can make sound because they have thermal energy. That thermal energy will decrease over time as the atoms cool, which would make the sound quieter. Get them down to absolute zero and there would be no thermal energy left and therefore no sound. Even if that proved to be unreachable, the total thermal energy is still finite.could that be seen as similar in space. with way reduced amount of function because of temperature?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:56:42
what i'm asking is, should we see if what makes atoms perpetual, be copied in similar ways to work in space.Atoms can make sound because they have thermal energy. That thermal energy will decrease over time as the atoms cool, which would make the sound quieter. Get them down to absolute zero and there would be no thermal energy left and therefore no sound. Even if that proved to be unreachable, the total thermal energy is still finite.could that be seen as similar in space. with way reduced amount of function because of temperature?
Post by: Kryptid on 16/10/2022 14:57:15
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:57:42
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 14:58:42
I'm not sure what your question means.earth has positive and negative poles. are there structures (galaxy and such) that could have a similar system and use long distance entanglement, as well as (round robin) movement to create free energy in space? free energy that turns into small expansions.
if all space is curved, surely there would be more systems.
if they stay close enough to keep the entanglements that atoms show.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:00:58
that's why i haven't built a system yet. plus trying to understand it better first. want to help?
i think it might be possible. and even though it's crazy, how impossible it seems, i'm trying. i'm trying to just see. to know for my own sake. because if i'm right about what i see, perpetuality may be key to ending a time loop
we would have to create energy to replace what we've destroyed with CERN, Nukes, and antimatter.
see, matter and antimatter can differ by simple direction of spin. This RELATIVE difference, is powerful.
Post by: Origin on 16/10/2022 15:13:34
earth has positive and negative poles. are there structures (galaxy and such) that could have a similar system and use long distance entanglement, as well as (round robin) movement to create free energy in space? free energy that turns into small expansions.What?
if all space is curved, surely there would be more systems.Huh?
if they stay close enough to keep the entanglements that atoms show.
I see the power an atom has. that scares me. but it's fun to work on.What?
that's why i haven't built a system yet. plus trying to understand it better first. want to help?
i think it might be possible. and even though it's crazy, how impossible it seems, i'm trying. i'm trying to just see. to know for my own sake. because if i'm right about what i see, perpetuality may be key to ending a time loopHuh?
we would have to create energy to replace what we've destroyed with CERN, Nukes, and antimatter.What?
see, matter and antimatter can differ by simple direction of spin. This RELATIVE difference, is powerful.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:20:49
I wasn't even really messing with physics and math at that time. just random thoughts of nature.
Being mentally ill, it helps to have something to focus on. I thought, you know what, it might do me some good to have something to focus on. I started reading more articles. It got more thoughts processing. like how could we miss it, if it can work. so i looked into particles and such. the repeated patterns got to me.
the more i understood, the more what i realized bothered me. like CERN. if time is set by matter to antimatter relations, then we have an issue. CERN destroys time by destroying mass and energy. It got me to look into all kinds of things, then i discovered Voynich. page 67v, and had to consider if science had been lead astray. with the people doing it knowing the truth since the 1500's. but they worked on it as far back as BC. with roman dodecahedrons.
dodecahedrons=atomic 5 point structure if icosahedron is quantum. its a calculator. but it does not mesh.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:21:53
what is the relative difference between matter and antimatter. think relativity. simple.earth has positive and negative poles. are there structures (galaxy and such) that could have a similar system and use long distance entanglement, as well as (round robin) movement to create free energy in space? free energy that turns into small expansions.What?if all space is curved, surely there would be more systems.Huh?
if they stay close enough to keep the entanglements that atoms show.I see the power an atom has. that scares me. but it's fun to work on.What?
that's why i haven't built a system yet. plus trying to understand it better first. want to help?i think it might be possible. and even though it's crazy, how impossible it seems, i'm trying. i'm trying to just see. to know for my own sake. because if i'm right about what i see, perpetuality may be key to ending a time loopHuh?we would have to create energy to replace what we've destroyed with CERN, Nukes, and antimatter.What?
see, matter and antimatter can differ by simple direction of spin. This RELATIVE difference, is powerful.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:23:44
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:27:46
holographic by the speed of interacting electrons within. in an all force theory of everything.
mass=inertia reserve. meaning mass is stored energy. for movement. ironic huh
a flip charge that acts like a particle over time (which is what we see) causes stability1 with deuterium and stability2 with helium.
one movement (charge or discharge) is done at the speed of light, to set the speed of light.
that fibonnaci is created when you inspect possible lanes of electron travel using 2^n and circles.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:29:56
and no. thats not a suicide threat. that is cause and reaction to idiots who think their sh1t don't stink and can act entitled to be douchebags.
I don't give a **** if you have a good day. bored chemist, i hope your happy with your ego trip.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:41:17
1+1=2
2+1=3
3+2=5
5+3=8
I even made a new image to show it. now. i'm going. have a good life.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:43:47
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 15:50:47
think about how an electron constantly moves. we have a natural abundance of energy compared to mass because of spin and charge. e=mc^2 holds valid. and is key to understanding, because we have two different masses in the neutron and proton. meaning we have two different speeds of energy to mass conversion.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 16:14:44
1/2y=0
1/2y=0.25 where y=0.5
1/2z+1=0.75 where z=-0.5
1/2z+1=1 where z=0
1/2z+1=1.25 where z=0.5
2a=-1 where a=-0.5
2a=0 where a=0
2a=1 where a=0.5
2b+1=0 where b=-0.5
2b+1=1 where b=0
2b+1=2 where b=0.5
4c=-2 where c=-0.5
4c=-1 where c=-0.25
4c=0 where c=0
4c=1 where c=0.25
4c=2 where c=0.5
4d+1=-1 where d=-0.5
4d+1=0 where d=-0.25
4d+1=1 where d=0
4d+1=2 where d=0.25
4d+1=3 where d=0.5
This switch to positive growth is our interaction we can take advantage of.
This is also a dangerous mechanism: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/b8pbnqdhnu
We use -0.5 to 0.5 to create a looping mechanism.
we have to stay off zero though. so we move it to -2.5 to -0.5 around to 0.5 to 2.5
Notice ½^n transitions to 2^n
In my particle examples i shared from desmos:
4d+1=-1 where d=-0.5
4d+1=0 where d=-0.25
4d+1=1 where d=0
4d+1=2 where d=0.25
4d+1=3 where d=0.5
this sets our n time.
notice. our d is 1/2^n n=-1, 1/2^n n=-2, 0, 1/2^n n=2, 1/2^n n=1)
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 16:27:27
I've asked for you to speak to the work or ask questions.I asked, and I'm still waiting for answers.
laws of thermodynamics plus laws of force state that a closed system can create,Create what?
Because they certainly can't create energy.
Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?
But, in that case of perpetual motion machines, we know they won't work.
Do you understand that?
Do you realise that your efforts will be in vain?
You have not yet provided a reply that actually answers the question.
What does the temporal symmetry of the laws of physics have to do with the structure of water?
That's the thing about maths; once you prove something, you know it is true.
Did you not know that?
magnetism is said to stop because it finds comfort,By whom is that said?
Was it "well thought through " to consider deforestation as physics?
And so on.
You have replied to some of them, but you have not answered them.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 16:38:00
maybe you just struggle to understand, where i struggle to speak. if we are just having communication issues, would you feel different about the way you've spoken and treated me?I've asked for you to speak to the work or ask questions.I asked, and I'm still waiting for answers.i didn't want to anger you by saying energy. because you believe a theorem over nature.laws of thermodynamics plus laws of force state that a closed system can create,Create what?
Because they certainly can't create energy.Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?Hexagons. and technically, they might not be. time is hard to discern. bilateral effects.But, in that case of perpetual motion machines, we know they won't work.I understand that is your understanding of science and development of physics, limited by IQ. before you ask, no I don't know mine. But the Military entrance exam, I scored a 90. Went back for a 95, just because I knew i could, and wanted to represent my best to my government.
Do you understand that?
Do you realise that your efforts will be in vain?You have not yet provided a reply that actually answers the question.Water allows compression. it must have an origin.
What does the temporal symmetry of the laws of physics have to do with the structure of water?That's the thing about maths; once you prove something, you know it is true.Unless the way to disprove it has not been found, approached in a way that outworks the theorem parameters, in allowed ways.
Did you not know that?I've heard it around. Thought it myself. So I did. Got a problem with me contributing?magnetism is said to stop because it finds comfort,By whom is that said?Was it "well thought through " to consider deforestation as physics?Deforestation is to build things, paper, buildings and such. does it not require physics? is it not a biproduct of possessing technology developed from physics research? in ways, everything is tied to physics. The coffee you drink, chemistry, atoms. The car you drive. The very technology that allows your anonymous behavior.
And so on.
You have replied to some of them, but you have not answered them.
would you say these things to my face?
word salad?
read between the quotes.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 16:43:20
well more like an atom moves from pentagon to hexagon to set the speed of light.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 16:48:51
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 16:54:33
Bible and Norse mythology places importance on apples. Which are somewhat spherical. Like atoms. Each region would have its own way of representing physics though beliefs in gods.
sun god. think about 2^n. its represented. and the four layers of the electron shell diagram.
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 17:01:33
maybe you just struggle to understandCan you provide evidence that anyone here has understood and agrees with you?
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 17:05:48
because you believe a theorem over nature.A theorem is part of nature.
Hexagons. and technically, they might not be. time is hard to discern. bilateral effects.This is part of the problem.
If I ask "what is the time?" and you say "Orange pasta is less tuneful than Ermentrude ", have you answered the question?
It's certainly a reply; but it's not an answer.
And, whether you like it or not, it's your job to explain what you mean and you are not doing that.
I might be the least diplomatic about saying it, but I'm not the only one.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 17:09:58
https://images.app.goo.gl/oE333KArn6pYLiNa9because you believe a theorem over nature.A theorem is part of nature.Hexagons. and technically, they might not be. time is hard to discern. bilateral effects.This is part of the problem.
If I ask "what is the time?" and you say "Orange pasta is less tuneful than Ermentrude ", have you answered the question?
It's certainly a reply; but it's not an answer.
And, whether you like it or not, it's your job to explain what you mean and you are not doing that.
I might be the least diplomatic about saying it, but I'm not the only one.
imagine similar inside the atom.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 17:16:53
They may vibrate in some quantum sense even at absolute zero, but that doesn't represent the net creation of energy. That particular form of perpetual motion is therefore allowed, as it doesn't violate conservation of energy. They wouldn't always emit sound, either. They would only emit sound if they have enough energy to do so.what i'm talking about is the tick time, and using distance to cheat it, to create a full energy. via 2n+1.
allowed for, because atoms tick a charge over time, to release that vibration.
1 energy, to two mass as inertia reserve, over 3 total movements.
2 up 1 down, allows for 1 full unit of energy every 3 moments.
time does not move, so we get speed.
2u+1d
4u+2d
6u+3d
6u+3d/2=3u+1.5d
(3u+1.5d)*2=6u+3d
time is a constant. we can set distance to a constant. meaning speed has to react.
energy cannot be created nor destroyed, except under special circumstance. Are we sure we know all exceptions?
nature would use this for expansion energy.
Post by: Kryptid on 16/10/2022 17:32:24
energy cannot be created nor destroyed, except under special circumstance. Are we sure we know all exceptions?
We know that any such circumstances must involve violation of time symmetry. We have the proof for it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 17:34:23
so if one already occured, and our Sysnthetic atoms were involved in releasing the time loop?energy cannot be created nor destroyed, except under special circumstance. Are we sure we know all exceptions?
We know that any such circumstances must involve violation of time symmetry. We have the proof for it.
1+3^2+3^3+3^4=118
Post by: Kryptid on 16/10/2022 17:36:33
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 17:48:32
Unfortunately, I don't know what it means to release a time loop.conscious observation wouldn't notice much difference. the importance would lie in the multiverse construct and continuation of an individual timeline interaction. parallels are based on time, not our choices.
as we see n rise, our number of comfortable habitable areas for timelines increases. meaning the more time goes, the more instances of available parallels can be created. at the end of each cycle, a reduction and rearrangement takes place. its so fast we don't notice it. because of the mega-verse, we see different stacking times. or actual differences in each timelines actions, the effects of mass and force interacting.
Mandella effect is caused when we reduce the total amount of energy in our own system (universe) making the multiverse reset using other multiverses in our mega-verse collection. we literally borrow design templates for information (mass, energy) from multiple times, creating cross data connections. IE Mandella memory effects.
Its also why dementia patients jump back in time, but remember it so specifically.
time itself is the infinite system. the lower levels keep it flowing. no matter what we do. unless we hit nature's pause button by crossing two time portal tail syphons. one to the past + one to the future. they are reverse direction, when seen from a relative viewpoint.
tesseracts in time allow big bang.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:02:54
man made cold fusion (perpetual apple design)>man made fission>Cern>fusion>cold fusion (atomic)
It is a natural process that nature takes advantage of. chaos theory.
Chaos theory describes breaking or splitting things.
Collatz describes building things.
n/2=0.5n
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:07:48
Symmetry breaking in pitchfork bifurcation as the parameter ε is varied. ε = 0 is the case of symmetric pitchfork bifurcation.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:10:47
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:15:31
source of the collatz images.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:17:17
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:28:17
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:29:13
3^3 is a cube with 3 units on each side. 2^3 is a cube with 2 units on each side. both can make a sphere.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:34:36
science and our understanding of it evolves.
pay attention to the fact it's two neutron stars and a 99.97 percent speed of light travel rate.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:39:52
because you believe a theorem over nature.A theorem is part of nature.Hexagons. and technically, they might not be. time is hard to discern. bilateral effects.This is part of the problem.
If I ask "what is the time?" and you say "Orange pasta is less tuneful than Ermentrude ", have you answered the question?
It's certainly a reply; but it's not an answer.
And, whether you like it or not, it's your job to explain what you mean and you are not doing that.
I might be the least diplomatic about saying it, but I'm not the only one.
I am trying to sir. Do you think your approach to me, condescending talk, and unwarranted continuality is helping?
time is a rate of measure of the interactions of forces and mass. its observed, inferred, but not directly measurable. we have no good way to measure time. we are trying though. Advances is quantum physics and computing are helping, tremendously.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:44:05
once we realize the flip charge component to a neutron, it'll get way more accurate.because you believe a theorem over nature.A theorem is part of nature.Hexagons. and technically, they might not be. time is hard to discern. bilateral effects.This is part of the problem.
If I ask "what is the time?" and you say "Orange pasta is less tuneful than Ermentrude ", have you answered the question?
It's certainly a reply; but it's not an answer.
And, whether you like it or not, it's your job to explain what you mean and you are not doing that.
I might be the least diplomatic about saying it, but I'm not the only one.
I am trying to sir. Do you think your approach to me, condescending talk, and unwarranted continuality is helping?
time is a rate of measure of the interactions of forces and mass. its observed, inferred, but not directly measurable. we have no good way to measure time. we are trying though. Advances is quantum physics and computing are helping, tremendously.
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 18:51:00
we have no good way to measure time.https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=clock
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:52:28
why, because anything multiplied by one is itself. anything multiplied by less than one, is less than our original number. anything more, is more than our original number. when we use the step behavior of n tied to this, and watch for where our steps raise our distance to our new result past our original number, we find a border.
b+a=1
if a>b, then where a*n<b*n is a border.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:54:15
As of May 2010, the smallest time interval uncertainty in direct measurements is on the order of 12 attoseconds (1.2 × 10−17 seconds), about 3.7 × 1026 Planck times.[35]we have no good way to measure time.https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=clock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:55:05
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:56:03
In medieval philosophical writings, the atom was a unit of time referred to as the smallest possible division of time. The earliest known occurrence in English is in Byrhtferth's Enchiridion (a science text) of 1010–1012,[33] where it was defined as 1/564 of a momentum (11⁄2 minutes),[34] and thus equal to 15/94 of a second. It was used in the computus, the process of calculating the date of Easter.why easter? if science has not been influenced by the search for god, why easter?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 18:59:10
oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?In medieval philosophical writings, the atom was a unit of time referred to as the smallest possible division of time. The earliest known occurrence in English is in Byrhtferth's Enchiridion (a science text) of 1010–1012,[33] where it was defined as 1/564 of a momentum (11⁄2 minutes),[34] and thus equal to 15/94 of a second. It was used in the computus, the process of calculating the date of Easter.why easter? if science has not been influenced by the search for god, why easter?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 19:01:20
Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason (1781), trans. Vasilis Politis (London: Dent., 1991), p.54.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 19:04:33
In general, the Islamic and Judeo-Christian world-view regards time as linear[37] and directional,[38] beginning with the act of creation by God. The traditional Christian view sees time ending, teleologically,[39] with the eschatological end of the present order of things, the "end time".
In the Old Testament book Ecclesiastes, traditionally ascribed to Solomon (970–928 BC), time (as the Hebrew word עידן, זמן iddan (age, as in "Ice age") zĕman(time) is often translated) was traditionally regarded[by whom?] as a medium for the passage of predestined events.[citation needed] (Another word, زمان" זמן" zamān, meant time fit for an event, and is used as the modern Arabic, Persian, and Hebrew equivalent to the English word "time".)
Time in Greek mythology
The Greek language denotes two distinct principles, Chronos and Kairos. The former refers to numeric, or chronological, time. The latter, literally "the right or opportune moment", relates specifically to metaphysical or Divine time. In theology, Kairos is qualitative, as opposed to quantitative.[40]
In Greek mythology, Chronos (ancient Greek: Χρόνος) is identified as the Personification of Time. His name in Greek means "time" and is alternatively spelled Chronus (Latin spelling) or Khronos. Chronos is usually portrayed as an old, wise man with a long, gray beard, such as "Father Time". Some English words whose etymological root is khronos/chronos include chronology, chronometer, chronic, anachronism, synchronize, and chronicle.
Time in Kabbalah
According to Kabbalists, "time" is a paradox[41] and an illusion.[42] Both the future and the past are recognized to be combined and simultaneously present.[clarification needed]
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 19:06:42
Ancient cultures such as Incan, Mayan, Hopi, and other Native American Tribes – plus the Babylonians, ancient Greeks, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and others – have a concept of a wheel of time: they regard time as cyclical and quantic,[clarification needed] consisting of repeating ages that happen to every being of the Universe between birth and extinction.[36]a universe itself has a beginning and an end. the multiverse splits these into 64 wedges. the megaverse allows 128 universe times in wedged multiverse format. time itself is a perpetual system. made of lower perpetual systems.
In general, the Islamic and Judeo-Christian world-view regards time as linear[37] and directional,[38] beginning with the act of creation by God. The traditional Christian view sees time ending, teleologically,[39] with the eschatological end of the present order of things, the "end time".
In the Old Testament book Ecclesiastes, traditionally ascribed to Solomon (970–928 BC), time (as the Hebrew word עידן, זמן iddan (age, as in "Ice age") zĕman(time) is often translated) was traditionally regarded[by whom?] as a medium for the passage of predestined events.[citation needed] (Another word, زمان" זמן" zamān, meant time fit for an event, and is used as the modern Arabic, Persian, and Hebrew equivalent to the English word "time".)
Time in Greek mythology
The Greek language denotes two distinct principles, Chronos and Kairos. The former refers to numeric, or chronological, time. The latter, literally "the right or opportune moment", relates specifically to metaphysical or Divine time. In theology, Kairos is qualitative, as opposed to quantitative.[40]
In Greek mythology, Chronos (ancient Greek: Χρόνος) is identified as the Personification of Time. His name in Greek means "time" and is alternatively spelled Chronus (Latin spelling) or Khronos. Chronos is usually portrayed as an old, wise man with a long, gray beard, such as "Father Time". Some English words whose etymological root is khronos/chronos include chronology, chronometer, chronic, anachronism, synchronize, and chronicle.
Time in Kabbalah
According to Kabbalists, "time" is a paradox[41] and an illusion.[42] Both the future and the past are recognized to be combined and simultaneously present.[clarification needed]
nature tricked us into a loop, to allow greater advancement in slower time. When we produce atomic number 121, we should exit said loop. we might even experience some kind of odd or weird feeling from it. that's at most what we should experience.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 19:10:37
now apply that to understanding nature. perpetual structures. we had to see if another way could work. and it don't. it gets us close but no cigar. no working thoery of everything.
until we change and re-look at things from a different viewpoint and a little more work.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 19:16:01
Schrodinger's cat is akin to 2n+1. dead=-1, where unknown=0, where alive=1. (-1,0,1) 2 movements, 3 steps.
2n+1
2 movements over 3 steps.
1 movement over 2 steps.
3 movements over 4 steps.
an electron is 1 movement, 1 step.
a proton is 1 movement, 2 steps.
a neutron is 1 movement, 2 steps. (fully discharged)
a neutron is 1 movement, 3 steps. (fully charged)
a proton is 1 movement, 2 steps.
a neutron is 1 movement, 2 steps. (fully discharged)
a neutron is 1 movement, 3 steps. (fully charged)
relates to:
PXL_20220627_120135182.jpg (2366.25 kB . 4080x3072 - viewed 760 times)because the way 72 degrees and 108 degrees mirror each other in 180 degrees, or create an x in 360
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 19:23:59
and yes, that theorem is part of nature, but does nature truly use it?
or does it no longer apply if we consider a possible charging and discharging system, and where it would be in an atom?
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 20:23:27
oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?The idea of atoms is a lot older than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus#Atomic_hypothesis
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:26:08
so what if a cataclysmic event that humanity made, showed us that they possibly existed. sending us on a chase to discover how, while others feared what might happen if we discovered the truth?oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?The idea of atoms is a lot older than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus#Atomic_hypothesis
the ones in fear, would try to stop them with reason. math. science. control and destruction.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:28:45
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:37:40
Ramses III
The Egyptians waged two wars against the Sea Peoples: the first, in the fifth year of King Merneptah (1236–23 bce); the second, in the reign of Ramses III (c. 1198–66 bce).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples
Atlantis?
destroyed by perpetual motion?
what if they were describing flying ships using ionic tech?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:40:23
Born c. 460 BC
Abdera, Thrace
Died c. 370 BC
The Sea Peoples are a hypothesized seafaring confederation that attacked ancient Egypt and other regions in the East Mediterranean prior to and during the Late Bronze Age collapse (1200–900 BCE).[1][2] Following the creation of the concept in the 19th century, the Sea Peoples' incursions became one of the most famous chapters of Egyptian history, given its connection with, in the words of Wilhelm Max Müller, "the most important questions of ethnography and the primitive history of classic nations".[3][4]
if you look at their page, hieroglyphics of birds.
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 20:45:22
what if the disc of sabuIt isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 20:46:17
it could explain how the pyramids were built.We know how they were built.
Lots of people.
No "magic" needed.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:48:07
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435what if the disc of sabuIt isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.
papers exist on it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:48:42
I propose lodestone could have been carved to be held.https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435what if the disc of sabuIt isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.
papers exist on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodestone
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 20:57:30
Emery found the enigmatic Disc on January 10, 1936, while working on the site where the tomb of Prince Sabu, a ruler of the First Dynasty and son of Pharaoh Anejib, was situated. The tomb of Sabu was located in the northern part of Saqqara, at the edge of a plateau. There were seven chambers in his tomb, consisting of animal bones, flint tools, ceramic vessels, ivory products, stone bowls. The prince’s body was in the largest room. The items found at the burial ground did not surprise Emery except one which was shattered in pieces. When the Disc was restored, it became one of the most intrigued ancient artifacts left by Ancient Egyptians.I propose lodestone could have been carved to be held.https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435what if the disc of sabuIt isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.
papers exist on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodestone
except one, which was shattered in pieces. they should have taken the pieces as well. they didn't think it could be put back together and put to use. but it existed. it would be porous to allow ionic flow.
good thing the only use we seek is as historical evidence.
why have we never found any more? as a sculpture, why would it be seen as valuable to be taken to the afterlife?
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 21:05:04
they should have taken the piecesI presume they did , and that's what it was restored from
why would it be seen as valuableIt would have been very expensive, in time and craftsmanship.
It's also beautiful.
Why wouldn't you have wanted to take it with you?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 21:07:10
I meant the men who broke it. purposefully. With reason.they should have taken the piecesI presume they did , and that's what it was restored fromwhy would it be seen as valuableIt would have been very expensive, in time and craftsmanship.
It's also beautiful.
Why wouldn't you have wanted to take it with you?
and the rest of his stuff was bones, basic stone bowls, and all that expense on one piece of "art" or one piece of "technology".
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 21:07:52
There were seven chambers in his tomb, consisting of animal bones, flint tools, ceramic vessels, ivory products, stone bowls
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 21:15:45
copper age was well past. copper for wire for transmission of currents.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 16/10/2022 21:18:30
It would be evidence targeted for destruction by those who knew of perpetuality's existence. Hence why so many European kings showed a fondness for alchemy research.I meant the men who broke it. purposefully. With reason.they should have taken the piecesI presume they did , and that's what it was restored fromwhy would it be seen as valuableIt would have been very expensive, in time and craftsmanship.
It's also beautiful.
Why wouldn't you have wanted to take it with you?
and the rest of his stuff was bones, basic stone bowls, and all that expense on one piece of "art" or one piece of "technology".
They had to understand it to order their men to destroy evidence of it.
I'll be back to discuss it more, later. Gonna spend time with family.
btw bored chemist. please. hear me when i say this. I like the way you argue. The way you bring up things. like
oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?The idea of atoms is a lot older than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus#Atomic_hypothesis
this is what i love to see. let's explore, not question probabilities, until we know what kind of full system time would use. because time keeps ticking, like atoms do. it takes a lot to stop an atom or pull it apart. it takes more to stop time, or pull it apart.
antimatter. does antimatter stop an atom? if in equal relation?
Post by: Bored chemist on 16/10/2022 21:32:25
I meant the men who broke it. purposefully. With reason.Which men?
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 01:09:54
Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 01:31:28
Between 1492 and 1504, Columbus completed four round-trip voyages between Spain and the Americas, each voyage being sponsored by the Crown of Castile. On his first voyage he reached the Americas, initiating the European exploration and colonization of the continent, as well as the Columbian exchange. His role in history is thus important to the Age of Discovery, Western history, and human history writ large
The Voynich manuscript is an illustrated codex hand-written in an otherwise unknown writing system, referred to as 'Voynichese'.[18] The vellum on which it is written has been carbon-dated to the early 15th century (1404–1438), and stylistic analysis indicates it may have been composed in Italy during the Italian Renaissance.[1][2] The origins, authorship, and purpose of the manuscript are debated. Various hypotheses have been suggested, including that it is an otherwise unrecorded script for a natural language or constructed language; an unread code, cypher, or other form of cryptography; or simply a meaningless hoax.
the vellum was made early enough to have been written by a columbus crewman.
The first confirmed owner was Georg Baresch, a 17th-century alchemist from Prague. Baresch was apparently puzzled about this "Sphynx" that had been "taking up space uselessly in his library" for many years.[9] He learned that Jesuit scholar Athanasius Kircher from the Collegio Romano had published a Coptic (Egyptian) dictionary and claimed to have deciphered the Egyptian hieroglyphs; Baresch twice sent a sample copy of the script to Kircher in Rome, asking for clues. The 1639 letter from Baresch to Kircher is the earliest known mention of the manuscript to have been confirmed
Post by: Origin on 17/10/2022 01:41:33
the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc.Papal declarations before Jesus was born?
You are all over the map. Try and focus on one question at a time.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 01:48:50
voynich was created after 1404. columbus sailed at 1492 (and after). Carbon testing put the date of voynich after 1404, but it's existence is mentioned 1637. meaning a 233 year window. the papal decrees for westward expansion, to destroy any existing proof of perpetuality came right after Columbus sailed. At the same time, they created manifest destiny, and a document that helped inspire it literally uses the same language as racists spout today. the sun god example shows perpetual constructs and knowledge of four layers, with a large gap of separation. which would show the electron shell diagram and the multiverse and 3 higher levels.the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc.Papal declarations before Jesus was born?
You are all over the map. Try and focus on one question at a time.
basically, if written to show the new world, and it showed evidence of perpetuality in Native American art, it would show why Europe created manifest destiny.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 01:53:35
ad my bad. bc always messes me up lol. i don't know why i put that there.the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc.Papal declarations before Jesus was born?
You are all over the map. Try and focus on one question at a time.
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 08:51:13
I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 08:55:46
Various hypotheses have been suggested, including that it is an otherwise unrecorded script for a natural language or constructed language; an unread code, cypher, or other form of cryptography; or simply a meaningless hoax.
Here's my favourite explanation.
https://xkcd.com/593/
But the point is that, because we don't know anything about it, it can't serve as evidence of much.
So it should not be part of a scientific discussion unless the field is cryptography or some such.
It can not help answer the question "why is the sky blue?".
It couldn't even help if it was an exact description of why the ski is blue- because we can't read it.
So, why did you mention it?
Post by: paul cotter on 17/10/2022 09:16:48
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 09:44:49
you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 09:50:15
Because it describes physics with the flip particle. we can't translate it, because we view atoms without the flip particle.Various hypotheses have been suggested, including that it is an otherwise unrecorded script for a natural language or constructed language; an unread code, cypher, or other form of cryptography; or simply a meaningless hoax.
Here's my favourite explanation.
https://xkcd.com/593/
But the point is that, because we don't know anything about it, it can't serve as evidence of much.
So it should not be part of a scientific discussion unless the field is cryptography or some such.
It can not help answer the question "why is the sky blue?".
It couldn't even help if it was an exact description of why the ski is blue- because we can't read it.
So, why did you mention it?
1/6+1/3+1/2=1
1/5+2/5+2/5=1
bottom left of the page.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 09:52:18
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 09:54:16
I tried already but he ignored my question.ask your question again please. I might have missed it, or the answer might still be forming in my head. well, the best way i can answer. I don't have all the answers. actually more questions than anything. but that is science. more questions than answers.
Post by: paul cotter on 17/10/2022 10:21:08
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:29:17
Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:32:08
right after. is the bloody f^n renaissance.Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
kinda explains how if the church knew all the answers in the 1500's.
and why certian church artists went absolutely nuts in artwork.
da vinci, like to hide messages.
he worked with flower of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#/media/File:Leonardo_da_Vinci_%E2%80%93_Codex_Atlanticus_folio_307v.jpg
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:34:12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_world_mapright after. is the bloody f^n renaissance.Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
kinda explains how if the church knew all the answers in the 1500's.
and why certian church artists went absolutely nuts in artwork.
da vinci, like to hide messages.
he worked with flower of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#/media/File:Leonardo_da_Vinci_%E2%80%93_Codex_Atlanticus_folio_307v.jpg
It is a map drawn using the "octant projection" and dated by Richard Henry Major to approximately 1514. It was found loosely inserted among a Codex of Leonardo da Vinci. It features an early use of the name America. The map incorporates information from the travels of Amerigo Vespucci, published in 1503 and 1505.[1] Additionally, the map depicts the Arctic as an ocean and Antarctica as a continent of about the correct size.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:42:08
dig into what it states.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_world_mapright after. is the bloody f^n renaissance.Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
kinda explains how if the church knew all the answers in the 1500's.
and why certian church artists went absolutely nuts in artwork.
da vinci, like to hide messages.
he worked with flower of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#/media/File:Leonardo_da_Vinci_%E2%80%93_Codex_Atlanticus_folio_307v.jpg
It is a map drawn using the "octant projection" and dated by Richard Henry Major to approximately 1514. It was found loosely inserted among a Codex of Leonardo da Vinci. It features an early use of the name America. The map incorporates information from the travels of Amerigo Vespucci, published in 1503 and 1505.[1] Additionally, the map depicts the Arctic as an ocean and Antarctica as a continent of about the correct size.
electron as 1n
proton as 2n
neutron as 3n.
all created with the same time.
3 rates allows perfect sync, with our overweight from atomic number, 4-4.002=0.002 overweight, being the perpetuality overflow of sound.
it also takes most of the conjecture out of science. where 5 parts (standard model) instead of 6 creates a mess. why?
quantum.
((2n+1)+2n) or ((2n+1)*2)
that +2n vs *2 makes a world of difference in the long run.
you "think" it has nothing to do with it. what if your "thoughts" are wrong?
5 is prime. meaning it has issues breaking down unless 5th dimension is possible. pentagons have a unique bisection aspect.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:48:31
if so, collatz states impossibility to find comfort.
3n+1 odds, n/2 evens.
3(5)+1=16
5/2=2.5
showing our bisection issue.
this is a unique feature caused by numbers. odds, evens, odds. evens, odds, evens. it always takes 3 to complete a unit, if a unit has to start and stop at the same item type.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:48:55
2x and 3x.
making the 5 point standard model impossible to balance.
3+2=5 where 5 is prime.
collatz sends 5 to 2x via 16 before it crashes.
6/2=3
8/2=4
10/2=5
12/2=6
14/2=7
16/2=8
7*3+1=22 (hi pi)
22/2=11
7,22,11,34,17,52,26,13,40,20,10,5,16,8,4,2,1,4,2,1.
7/22=pi.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:57:30
but if i'm right, i've been a lazy son of a bitch. it took me 36 years to dig into the truth.
you guys can't have it both ways. either there is a chance we are wrong, or we are flawless in our thinking. which is it?
could a flip ghost interaction been missed?
what if we never thought to look for it?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 10:58:26
you guys done said, scientists have been wrong in the past. and if i'm wrong, hell yes. i'm not brilliant and i don't need to kick myself in the ass for how lazy i was.and unless you have thought to look for it, or know someone besides me that has, we should entertain the possibility that we've been misled. just for a precaution.
but if i'm right, i've been a lazy son of a bitch. it took me 36 years to dig into the truth.
you guys can't have it both ways. either there is a chance we are wrong, or we are flawless in our thinking. which is it?
could a flip ghost interaction been missed?
what if we never thought to look for it?
as no action is a waste, when done in protection of another. I don't want anything to happen to you guys, or anyone else, because of greed of people who no longer live.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:12:06
(3n-1)/(y/2)=x
(3n+1)/(y/2)=-x
(3n-1)/(y/2)=-x
my modified collatz as 2d entanglement. (a quantum mechanic)
z might just be:
(3x+1)/(y/2)=z
(3x-1)/(y/2)=z
(3x+1)/(y/2)=-z
(3x-1)/(y/2)=-z
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:15:23
using phi to set comfort. (a+b=c+b where b=1)
imagined as particles:
3n+1 where n=3 creates a square that allows a z axis interaction from the +1. it retains its square and makes it move in z.
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 11:16:06
No.you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?
I tried already but he ignored my question.
Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 11:16:40
using phi to set comfort.You still have not said what you think "comfort" means.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:17:26
i didn't ask you what time it was. i asked you what time itself is.No.you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?I tried already but he ignored my question.
Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:20:10
comfort is described by ionic entanglements. if comfortable, there is no reason to seek comfort, if not comfortable, it seeks comfort. if we push two opposite poles together, comfort. if we push two like poles together, being uncomfortable makes them move away. comfort pulls together. discomfort pushes apart.using phi to set comfort.You still have not said what you think "comfort" means.
magnets seek comfort from each other, through temporary ionic entanglements.
data moving. which is why disc of sabu needed to be porous.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:21:25
i followed it up by copying the phisosophy section of wiki on time. so, yea. i described my own.i didn't ask you what time it was. i asked you what time itself is.No.you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?I tried already but he ignored my question.
Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?
n/1 for electron,
n/2 for proton,
n/3 for neutron.
all set at the same time (n)
so. apparently orange pasta is in your own mind.
I've started to like you more. gotten comfortable with you. so i'm gonna ignore the orange pasta comment. btw. orange is my favorite color, after black.
my first name is paul, btw. nice to greet you. same to you kryptid, and mr cotter.
sh1t. my bad origin. nice to greet you too.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:31:56
consider how governments are usually for the greater good of all people, over the good of one.
Consider how religion brings people together, but also separates people of different religions.
it's all about controlling information, and unity.
we are the suspect. except we are being prevented from the crime of destroying time.
because unity overthrows their own power. financially, to stop us from destroying time.
Tuskegee experiments. mk ultra. tusla race massacre. think about it.
we have been programmed to hate each other, through chasing our own success.
when we can succeed better with more people. because more people allows us to balance our strengths and weaknesses.
most common people think matrix is more possible than perpetuality. because of science being off.
because we were led astray by powerful people, with protection in mind.
I'm not saying anyone is a villain in their actions. Quite the opposite.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:41:10
the border would not allow matter under light speed to exit. energy at light speed could exit. both sent through tesseracts could exit.
where the tetra-verse border reflects all types of energy and mass, back inside. through dark matter.
which is so black, it repels 100% of light.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:42:22
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:53:22
I am trying. everything is connected. mathematics uses a sphere type web of interactions. our actions circumnavigate that sphere. Our use of whole number vs fractions or decimals sets our movement size, where mod use sets sphere size. whole numbers have their own size. thats why we see some of jumps (the way one part throws itself wildly to come back in from the other direction) in things like this:No.you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.Which men?umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.
What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?I tried already but he ignored my question.
Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?
+1 Ripple Effect of Growth, Chaos Theory
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/b8pbnqdhnu
with everything connected, it has to pull from other areas to show relative connection.
mods are useful in science. essential actually. 3 parts to an atom, electron, proton, neutron. means mod 3 is for atomic. one additive to the mod per particle present.
the ghost interaction belongs to the neutron.
quantum should work best in mod 6. its actually -6 but, negatives don't count on mods. so its positive either way. like 2n+1 allows.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 11:59:58
odds, evens, odds.
O, E, O.
odds=o
evens=e
we see collatz interactions here.
5x phase 1 and phase two add to create 10x.
2x doubles to create 4x.
odds always stack into their double.
evens always repeat to their double.
See i have to figure out what helps each of you understand the notion. its kind of a hard task.
Post by: paul cotter on 17/10/2022 12:05:36
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:06:40
Good grief!!am i bothering you, sir?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:10:24
or am i okay to continue to describe what you've asked me to, in the best ways i can, which involves a lot of history as well as science and math. it's a full on story of how we were possibly deceived.Good grief!!am i bothering you, sir?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:12:19
can we pause it?
if we can't, and atoms are allowed perpetuality to describe sound as vibrations than that theorem is disproven by nature and thought. despite what it says mathematically, nature has a workaround. (i invite you to try to find it with me)
plus, only some atoms actually hit "perpetual". most are underpowered. it's only the stable (and the 4 that follow) that release energy. its the rest that eat it up.
once again, an interaction very hard to spot.
electron shell diagram. layer 1, two. helium. layer 2, 8. that repeats in each layer of an atom after the first. setting time as layer1 + layer 2. in some thought examples and approaches.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:26:00
you came on, looked, and disappeared. i'll shut up and quit bothering you guys. sorry i tried to help. and **** you guys for holding me to standard that you, yourself have refused to walk. i asked and got less actual answers in replies, and told why i was wrong more. got called a liar. but yet, science has been wrong before... fuckin hypocrites.Good grief!!am i bothering you, sir?
maybe you guys are less likely to see your own aggression. or the aggression of people you are familiar with. bored chemist started with word salad. even kept pushing, with belligerence. I'm tired. I don't have the energy to put up with people who have not the mind to make science, only study it. maybe the chemist wouldn't be so bored if he tried to think on history more, and trusting what he thinks he understands, less.
by the way, i'm not the only one he called a liar when he said that.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:30:07
how is pi made in nature? can you answer that?just like chasing alternative ways to find pi approximates, right?Well... yes.
In order to verify that your new approximation is correct, you need to know what pi is to a batter accuracy than your approximation.
So, you are putting effort into finding out something you already know.
But, in that case of perpetual motion machines, we know they won't work.
Do you understand that?
Do you realise that your efforts will be in vain?
origins in nature?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:34:58
why not call out his rudeness?before you say flower of life is not an acceptable tool.I wasn't going to bother.
Emmy Noether saved me the trouble of reading your prattle.
It's a pity you won't let her spare you writing it.
Like i said, hypocritical. which is inhospitable, but pitiful on ya'll.
you'd rather trust a theorem then try to break it. just to see if you can. Thats not science.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:38:06
when science is about making hypothesis, testing, and retesting.
once something breaks, no need to retest. but you retest to make sure it don't break, or can't break, until all possibility is resolved, meaning you found your theory of everything.
no commonly acceptable theory of everything, leaves a lot to debate and find.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:51:26
hydrogen=1.00784 u (1 electron + 1 proton)hydrogen=1.00784 u (1 electron + 1 proton)
deuterium=2.014 amu (1 electron + 1 proton +1 neutron)
Helium=4.002 (stable) (2 electron + 2 proton +2 neutron)
deuterium=2.014 amu (1 electron + 1 proton +1 neutron)
Helium=4.002 (stable) (2 electron + 2 proton +2 neutron)
are random words and numbers lmfao.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:53:18
and what if the energy is always converted to expansion or sound?you can't find an explanation for cosmologically seemingly free energy.If you mean the big bang, look through the site carefully and you will find the bit where I pointed out that the big bang is the one time when Noether's theorem doesn't prevent an increase in energy.
(Because the symmetry is broken; there is no "before" the BB.)
It's not that I refuse to think this stuff through.
It's that I already did and I know it's a crock.
And you still need to stop playing at numerology on a science page: it's just silly.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:54:04
I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.elitism. lol
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 12:59:17
"The Standard Model of particle physics has three related natural near-symmetries. These state that the universe in which we live should be indistinguishable from one where a certain type of change is introduced."
just what i thought. it uses standard model.
bro, we are talking about a whole new particle model, in subatomic systems.
6 vs standard point 5.
what if the difference is one true symmetry.
plus, the variance of travel would outdo symmetry.
"The Standard Model of particle physics has three related natural near-symmetries. These state that the universe in which we live should be indistinguishable from one where a certain type of change is introduced."
so your arguments are null and void.
perpetual lanes 2^n.jpg (598.78 kB . 2020x1528 - viewed 653 times)notice the symmetrical movements within the sphere system. a variance that allows invariance to continue and gain.
creating Fibonacci.
2^n over circles.png (10.6 kB . 617x685 - viewed 710 times)
Post by: Origin on 17/10/2022 13:00:36
am i bothering you, sir?I think the issue is 90% of what you are writing makes no sense at all. It's annoying to have a discussion with someone who replies with nonsense.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:05:19
are you guys trying for 5 seconds then saying screw it?am i bothering you, sir?I think the issue is 90% of what you are writing makes no sense at all. It's annoying to have a discussion with someone who replies with nonsense.
because to unlearn what seems to be true, then learn possible greater truth takes longer than that.
oh wait. bored chemist done said he don't need to. because he done proved something. ego. i stepped on his toes.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:06:56
Unless you have tried to test possible perpetual systems, you can't outright deny them from personal knowledge.Yes I can.
Because of this.
That wouldn't work. Noether's theorem guarantees that such a perpetual motion machine cannot exist:
Why are you ignoring the mathematical proof that you are wrong?
Don't you like science?
i guess you guys don't like science. you just like to think you know better than another.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:09:57
why art, why not tech?they should have taken the piecesI presume they did , and that's what it was restored fromwhy would it be seen as valuableIt would have been very expensive, in time and craftsmanship.
It's also beautiful.
Why wouldn't you have wanted to take it with you?
just because you use an excuse of a theorem doesn't apply here.
we are asking, would the art be more likely to be kept, or tech?
and if it was perpetual tech, would Christians not want it destroyed?
kinda defeats the idea of heaven if time has no end.
hence the philosophy of religious thoughts on time, that i shared.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:13:19
like the way you guys have spoken to me hasn't been unnerving?am i bothering you, sir?I think the issue is 90% of what you are writing makes no sense at all. It's annoying to have a discussion with someone who replies with nonsense.
pot calling the kettle black.
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 13:16:12
It really isn't elitism to point out that a crank is a crank.I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.elitism. lol
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 13:20:13
i didn't ask you what time it was.Nobody said you had.
Try to keep up.
which is why disc of sabu needed to be porous.It's a piece of metal.
Copper is not porous.
So you must be wrong.
Why did you not work that out for yourself?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:21:10
unless he's not a crank. and his seeing the power behind flower of life imagery. i guess anyone who goes against what you say is a crank. does that make you the authority. no. its your opinion. zero scientific relevance.It really isn't elitism to point out that a crank is a crank.I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.elitism. lol
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:22:45
"The disc-shaped artefact, aka the Egyptian Tri-Lobed Disc Figure 1, was excavated from the Mastaba of Prince Sabu (son of Pharaoh Anedjib, First Dynasty (c.3150-2890 BC)) by Walter Bryan Emery in 1936 (Emery, 1949) . It has the structure of a central hub and three smoothly curved “lobes,” and its dimensions are: 61 cm in diameter, 1 cm thick, and 10.6 cm in the center (see Figure 2 and Figure 3). The central hub obviously has been designed to fit onto a pole. It is reported that the object is made of schist, a very fragile and delicate rock. These features of the Disc, the curvature and delicacy, naturally suggest that it was used softly in some liquid. Taking account of these features of the Disc, and also of"i didn't ask you what time it was.Nobody said you had.
Try to keep up.which is why disc of sabu needed to be porous.It's a piece of metal.
Copper is not porous.
So you must be wrong.
Why did you not work that out for yourself?
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435
guess you might want to step back a moment and read that paper. the original wasn't copper.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:25:14
if he's a crank, disprove any of his work. or show where it has.unless he's not a crank. and his seeing the power behind flower of life imagery. i guess anyone who goes against what you say is a crank. does that make you the authority. no. its your opinion. zero scientific relevance.It really isn't elitism to point out that a crank is a crank.I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.elitism. lol
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:25:42
you stated it, now prove it.if he's a crank, disprove any of his work. or show where it has.unless he's not a crank. and his seeing the power behind flower of life imagery. i guess anyone who goes against what you say is a crank. does that make you the authority. no. its your opinion. zero scientific relevance.It really isn't elitism to point out that a crank is a crank.I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.elitism. lol
turn the table a little bit. lol.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:28:02
you asked and i tried my best to offer evidence. but like i said, you can't make a person think. you can't force them to reconsider what they think is true. you can only ask them to.you stated it, now prove it.if he's a crank, disprove any of his work. or show where it has.unless he's not a crank. and his seeing the power behind flower of life imagery. i guess anyone who goes against what you say is a crank. does that make you the authority. no. its your opinion. zero scientific relevance.It really isn't elitism to point out that a crank is a crank.I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.elitism. lol
turn the table a little bit. lol.
that's what i did. but, i'm a liar.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:28:54
lets start with what would be included or not included.
my description calls for tesseract interactions. does yours?
notice i use 6 hexagons.
can 5 pentagons create a tesseract?
notice we can half it, with symmetry.
notice we can insert 2n+1 in our center squares.
but yet, we only have two actual squares. (purple). the blue square is forward. not on the same 2d plane.
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 13:34:04
so they allowed religious pressure to sway things.What religion do you mean?
Are you trying to say that science is a religion?
Are you really saying that- on a science site?
Post by: Origin on 17/10/2022 13:35:36
that's what i did. but, i'm a liar.I don't think anyone called you a liar. I think that people have pointed out that you are wrong on science or just writing nonsense.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:38:05
example 1, but wait it gets better.you can't find an explanation for cosmologically seemingly free energy.If you mean the big bang, look through the site carefully and you will find the bit where I pointed out that the big bang is the one time when Noether's theorem doesn't prevent an increase in energy.
(Because the symmetry is broken; there is no "before" the BB.)
It's not that I refuse to think this stuff through.
It's that I already did and I know it's a crock.
And you still need to stop playing at numerology on a science page: it's just silly.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:45:02
that's what i did. but, i'm a liar.I don't think anyone called you a liar. I think that people have pointed out that you are wrong on science or just writing nonsense.
I guess google and sweden lies!No.
The person who tries to say that a Swedish research institute said "if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3."
is lying.
Why do you do it?see who started using insulting languageTurning up on a science page and talking about perpetual motion is an insult to science.
Yet you keep doing it.
**** you guys. right here. no one called me a liar eh?
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 13:46:03
Only because you lied...that's what i did. but, i'm a liar.I don't think anyone called you a liar. I think that people have pointed out that you are wrong on science or just writing nonsense.I guess google and sweden lies!No.
The person who tries to say that a Swedish research institute said "if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3."
is lying.
Why do you do it?see who started using insulting languageTurning up on a science page and talking about perpetual motion is an insult to science.
Yet you keep doing it.
**** you guys. right here. no one called me a liar eh?
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 13:51:45
if he's a crank, disprove any of his work. or show where it has.Sure
https://web.archive.org/web/20190119191115/https://azureworld.blogspot.com/2010/02/nassim-haramein-fraud-or-sage.html
and the links there.
Did you imagine that was going to be difficult?
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 13:52:29
that is my direct quote. not swedensYes.
And I described it as word salad and you falsely attributed it to "Sweden".
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:52:34
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:56:07
not even me. thats why i'm here. seeking help. to see if time being perpetual is a second perpetual system that would show we have been looped, because nature duped us.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:57:21
no. i said they made sound with artificial atoms. and if they did truly have an artificial atom....that is my direct quote. not swedensYes.
And I described it as word salad and you falsely attributed it to "Sweden".
I'm not sure their artificial atom is close enough.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 13:58:31
I'm not talking his physics. his work on golden ratios. all of us are wrong in some ways. none of us see the big picture in entirety.he's drawn to flower of life like i am. why? its dual circle grids. all space is curved. odds and evens and the stability of helium sets the power of dual systems.
not even me. thats why i'm here. seeking help. to see if time being perpetual is a second perpetual system that would show we have been looped, because nature duped us.
a two is involved in both colaltz and chaos theory. population capacity tests use 0.5n.
and when a mathematician works on infinity, he uses two.
makes a lot more sense if electron=1, proton=2 where neutron=3.
instead of electron=1, proton=2, neutron=2 (never has a charge)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:02:04
I know i'm not gonna waste the money to test it.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:03:24
Look, this thread is still getting personal and using insults. I've showed you how to block people if they are bothering you. I suggest you use it if you can't just ignore them. If this keeps up, I'll probably lock the thread. If I do have to lock the thread, you won't be allowed to open a new thread about this same topic. Keep that in mind when you make replies in the future.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:05:24
I'm a Christian and I would not want a perpetual motion machine (should one actually be possible) to be destroyed, so I don't know why you would say such a thing.even if it destroys your religion? would all agree?
Look, this thread is still getting personal and using insults. I've showed you how to block people if they are bothering you. I suggest you use it if you can't just ignore them. If this keeps up, I'll probably lock the thread. If I do have to lock the thread, you won't be allowed to open a new thread about this same topic. Keep that in mind when you make replies in the future.
that would include those who have power, like the papal states.
who fight wars over beliefs. slaughter many just in the name of what they have faith in existing.
I'm glad you're one of the better ones. who care more of the greatness it would reward.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:08:22
sweet. go ahead bored. keeping bringing that energy. you're close to what you seem to want.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:11:12
no. i forgot to end a quotation. bro. look at the way you have acted. bullish and brash. now i'm doing my best to be nice here, to not get my thread locked. if you're allowed mistakes, so am i. i even unblocked you, to welcome you back. but yet, no one called me a liar.that is my direct quote. not swedensYes.
And I described it as word salad and you falsely attributed it to "Sweden".
forgiveness is such a great thing to give. can i be forgiven for forgetting to end a copy paste quote?
can we earnestly, be friends through our disagreements, and help each other grow and think more deeply?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:14:50
we are debating on a hexagon based subatomic existence....
a possibly new subatomic model...
sorry. i know that aint science, but it is creepy.
wait hexagon don't describe it right.
pentagon/hexagon hybrid?
it is at 5, when discharged. but if a neutron holds a fast moving charge, it would be at 6 when charged.
Post by: Origin on 17/10/2022 14:18:36
even if it destroys your religion?What are you talking about??
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:19:43
Christians state time ends in revelations. thats why they destroyed perpetual systems. to not be proven wrong.even if it destroys your religion?What are you talking about??
the antichrist ends the world.
instead, they thought we would grow to be heavenly or more godlike. through another existence.
the afterlife.
energy cannot be created nor destroyed. if time is perpetual it has no end. it disproves Christian beliefs.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:22:22
Christians state time ends in revelations. thats why they destroyed perpetual systems. to not be proven wrong.even if it destroys your religion?What are you talking about??
the antichrist ends the world.
instead, they thought we would grow to be heavenly or more godlike. through another existence.
the afterlife.
energy cannot be created nor destroyed. if time is perpetual it has no end. it disproves Christian beliefs.
Religion
Scale of time in Jain texts shown logarithmically
Further information: Time and fate deities
Linear and cyclical
See also: Time cycles and Wheel of time
Ancient cultures such as Incan, Mayan, Hopi, and other Native American Tribes – plus the Babylonians, ancient Greeks, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and others – have a concept of a wheel of time: they regard time as cyclical and quantic,[clarification needed] consisting of repeating ages that happen to every being of the Universe between birth and extinction.[36]
In general, the Islamic and Judeo-Christian world-view regards time as linear[37] and directional,[38] beginning with the act of creation by God. The traditional Christian view sees time ending, teleologically,[39] with the eschatological end of the present order of things, the "end time".
In the Old Testament book Ecclesiastes, traditionally ascribed to Solomon (970–928 BC), time (as the Hebrew word עידן, זמן iddan (age, as in "Ice age") zĕman(time) is often translated) was traditionally regarded[by whom?] as a medium for the passage of predestined events.[citation needed] (Another word, زمان" זמן" zamān, meant time fit for an event, and is used as the modern Arabic, Persian, and Hebrew equivalent to the English word "time".)
Time in Greek mythology
The Greek language denotes two distinct principles, Chronos and Kairos. The former refers to numeric, or chronological, time. The latter, literally "the right or opportune moment", relates specifically to metaphysical or Divine time. In theology, Kairos is qualitative, as opposed to quantitative.[40]
In Greek mythology, Chronos (ancient Greek: Χρόνος) is identified as the Personification of Time. His name in Greek means "time" and is alternatively spelled Chronus (Latin spelling) or Khronos. Chronos is usually portrayed as an old, wise man with a long, gray beard, such as "Father Time". Some English words whose etymological root is khronos/chronos include chronology, chronometer, chronic, anachronism, synchronise, and chronicle.
Time in Kabbalah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:25:30
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:26:26
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:29:28
all of physcis. not god, but time itself.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:30:19
Bored Chemist is blunt, but I'm not certain that he's breaking the rules. He's right when he says that your posts don't make sense. Origin, Colin2B and myself all seem to agree on that. I don't personally mean that as an offense. Something just needs to be done about your sentence structure if you want to be understood.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:35:08
A perpetual motion machine has no relevance to Christianity, so that's a non-sequitur.unless the holy grail was a perpetual motion machine.
Bored Chemist is blunt, but I'm not certain that he's breaking the rules. He's right when he says that your posts don't make sense. Origin, Colin2B and myself all seem to agree on that. I don't personally mean that as an offense. Something just needs to be done about your sentence structure if you want to be understood.
the ark of the covenant?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:36:35
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:37:51
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:38:30
They weren't perpetual motion machines.prove it. beyond any shadow of a doubt.
you stated it. prove it.
you can't. unless you have a theory of everything that states its impossible.
we can keep trying to prove its not possible.
but until we have that working understanding of everything, we don't truly know.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:40:04
if god=time in heaven=tetra-verse.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:44:56
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:45:24
i can't do anything about my autism. maybe you can open up and think more, while making definitive statements less.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:45:44
Because (1) Noether's theorem, and (2) boxes and cups aren't machines.2. what is in the box?
a body or machine?
do we have the dna of christ?
if so, how do we know that dna is of christ?
not some other person?
how did this turn into schrodinger's box?
is the cat a machine or dead body? lol
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:48:15
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:49:21
No machine in the box, no.proof. or is that your belief. lol. science bro. prove it please. prove that a perpetual machine could not be in the box. cause if time and atoms both have perpetuality in it, you just worked yourself into a box.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:51:06
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:51:38
Remember what I said about Noether's theorem?describe time please. if atoms are allowed perpetual systems, describe time.
when does it stop?
and don't quote scripture.
what if time is a 2nd perpetual system. and nature used Neother's theorem to loop time on us.
it would explain Mandella effect. as physics.
improper data processing. mixing of existences to reform a crashed universe. no need for big bang.
more like, smaller bangs. on an overall loop.
where does big bang get its incoming energy? tesseracts from the multiverse maybe?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:56:34
maybe we were wrong, but so close to right we tricked the world into believing it, over time?Remember what I said about Noether's theorem?describe time please. if atoms are allowed perpetual systems, describe time.
when does it stop?
and don't quote scripture.
what if time is a 2nd perpetual system. and nature used Neother's theorem to loop time on us.
it would explain Mandella effect. as physics.
improper data processing. mixing of existences to reform a crashed universe. no need for big bang.
more like, smaller bangs. on an overall loop.
where does big bang get its incoming energy? tesseracts from the multiverse maybe?
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 14:57:19
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 14:59:07
Depends on what you mean by "perpetual motion". Certain kinds of perpetual motion are allowed so long as they don't violate conservation of energy. A particle moving through a vacuum can keep going and that's fine because it doesn't violate conservation of energy. A machine that can literally create new energy, on the other hand, is not allowed without breaking time symmetry. Time being the dimension that separates one event from another.a natural machine that uses pressure to create spin. which can then be harnessed to create free energy. using a faraday cage type design.
we aren't taking energy off the system. just using the motion to create will to move in electrons.
its a 10th additional layer, with no magnets. just wires.
we would be borrowing small reserves of force, that the machine would wind back up to replace. the actual collection of energy, is aloud because we are outside the system. think of it as collecting the sound we know atoms create. we harness what it gives off. and i can't build it on my own. or even test if its enough to power anything, or worth the effort. not on my own. I could help ya'll. if ya'll took it seriously enough to see.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 15:00:32
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:11:34
You can't create energy that way.umm, separate the faraday cage into a cell system. each cell is activated by one magnet at a time. We'd get half of the cells activating. keep in mind, 512+256=768 is a lot of magnets. each would provide a little, that we would have to condense. we'd have to set a computer to block generation for (north magnets i think). if it moves, we can harness it. its getting the precision to move. wait. i'm not for building the machines. just understanding them. what am i doing. you know what. its just better to leave you guys thinking its not possible. its too dangerous. even if climate change also seems to show time slowing. sorry for bothering ya'll.
total system not universe. our local system stays pretty relative, by what we see.
Post by: paul cotter on 17/10/2022 15:23:11
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 15:24:02
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:26:38
Kryptid, bipolar,imho.
bipolar schizophrenic.
dissociative identity disorder.
autism.
no opinions needed.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:27:10
You still won't get net energy.we can try. or you can make statements.
which is science?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:28:01
by the way, try reading. i done stated this once.Kryptid, bipolar,imho.
bipolar schizophrenic.
dissociative identity disorder.
autism.
no opinions needed.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:30:48
do you always feel up to doing what you need to do? no, depression.
we each struggle. but that doesn't mean we can't get that struggle under control and become a functioning member of society. so why don't you join us, instead of making statements, try science.
the difference between science and insanity. science you are supposed to change parameters before you attempt to try again.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:31:36
You still won't get net energy.proof? besides the theorem that is invalidated if time is perpetual?
i keep asking for things. you guys have provided a lot of insinuated insults. and only one thing to say i'm wrong, but can't explain time over all to show that your theorem truly holds.
yet, also, i get told to watch what i say. not a thing has been said once i showed i have been called a liar. that was uncalled for. by the way kryptid, didn't you say perpetual systems are allowed in atoms? he called you a liar too.
I'm not saying to be mad at him. just don't be a hypocrite saying to watch me in my inbox and while bored goes around saying whatever with nothing said about it by ya'll in public space.
oh wait. i was told i wasn't called a liar. dang.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:38:56
Only because you lied...that's what i did. but, i'm a liar.I don't think anyone called you a liar. I think that people have pointed out that you are wrong on science or just writing nonsense.I guess google and sweden lies!No.
The person who tries to say that a Swedish research institute said "if its truly a synthetic atom, then it shows vibrations can be in atoms. I'm trying to figure out the time when, to help understand the nature of said sound and vibrations. I said a perpetual machine might be possible. because of the evidence seen recently. way more recently then Noether's theorem. so explain both?
or maybe, there is a charge that builds and decreases in a neutron.
it would be near impossible to spot, unless you considered it existed and looked for it.
if it moves at c, then c^2 is two movements.
if it moves at c^2, proton sets stability. it moves at n/2 where neutron moves at n/3."
is lying.
Why do you do it?see who started using insulting languageTurning up on a science page and talking about perpetual motion is an insult to science.
Yet you keep doing it.
**** you guys. right here. no one called me a liar eh?
but no one called me a liar.
you guys make clear statements of what is possible or not. not very scientific.
but i'm a liar. lol.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:41:49
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:43:27
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:44:46
for the slaps, the lairs, the word salad. while you guys are adamant that you know.
and science is all about the journey of discovery.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:46:10
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:48:40
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:51:25
2 (marked 2)
2 no mark
4 (marked 3)
3
2 (marked 2)
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 15:54:22
the other green star links to 2!
weird...
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:04:43
Proton quark structure: 2 up quarks and 1 down quark. The gluon tubes or flux tubes are now known to be Y shaped.
red blue and green!
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:08:19
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 16:11:15
I also really wish you'd go back and edit previous posts when you have something new to add instead of multi-posting over and over again.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:18:49
Perpetual motion is allowed so long as it doesn't create energy. Noether's theorem has already been proven. A person doesn't have to understand it in order for it to be true.i started to, then bored started up his stuff.
I also really wish you'd go back and edit previous posts when you have something new to add instead of multi-posting over and over again.
so atoms never allow sound or vibrations to exit, or do they exit in sync with other atoms eating up said energy?
i wish people would quit holding me to a standard they don't hold each other too.
has bored been reprimanded, no because you guys think just like him. that i'm wrong, so its suddenly allowed lmao.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:19:47
how does fusion not violate it then?Perpetual motion is allowed so long as it doesn't create energy. Noether's theorem has already been proven. A person doesn't have to understand it in order for it to be true.i started to, then bored started up his stuff.
I also really wish you'd go back and edit previous posts when you have something new to add instead of multi-posting over and over again.
so atoms never allow sound or vibrations to exit, or do they exit in sync with other atoms eating up said energy?
is it another, allowed exception?
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 16:22:31
Fusion doesn't create energy. It converts nuclear potential energy into kinetic energy. The total energy remains the same.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:25:57
symmetry is broken in a spherical system because it returns the same energy back to the outside.
it mirrors it. because in a sphere, force has no where to go.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:33:22
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 16:33:44
Not trying, because we already know the outcome.You still won't get net energy.we can try. or you can make statements.
which is science?
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is well classified. I believe Einstein said something about it.
But it wasn't called science.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:35:07
what is the difference in science and insanity?Not trying, because we already know the outcome.You still won't get net energy.we can try. or you can make statements.
which is science?
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is well classified. I believe Einstein said something about it.
But it wasn't called science.
if science is changing one stipulation to test a result, and insanity is repeating the same thing expecting different results. science and insanity go hand in hand.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 16:58:02
we set distance. meaning, the more iterations of 2^n=1/2^-n via 2n+1 we move, the more we make. that long string of comparing 2n, and 2n+1 in -0.5 to 0.5 shows that.
½^n=2^-n (2 steps)
1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)
8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)
16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)
32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)
using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
the inequality that shows possibility.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WaveNumberTheory/comments/xn3lgy/2n_vs_2n1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
in a sphere, the force has to go somewhere. unused but exerted ionic force from the magnets. not used for motion, but still present. that force then does what? just disappears?
or does it become a reflexive push back on the system into motion?
see if it transmits motion to the inside, then it must also do the same backwards, going out, but forward in time.
2 up, 1 down, right?
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/348588/proton-2-up-1-down-quark-neutron-2-down-1-up-how-can-neutron-proton-ele
from another:
The other answers are right, but I'd like to offer the opposite statement, too: A neutron is a proton plus an electron.
One wonderful thing about nuclear and particle physics is that you can do "arithmetics" with particles. In some sense, you can say a proton and an electron add up to a neutron, +−=. This is what you have in beta decay (if you are missing something, bear with me). But you can also "do the same on both sides" like in math (aka equivalence transformations). Lets add a positron:
⇒++=+−=+−++=∣∣++
Note that the positron and the electron cancel out. The resulting formula =++ can also happen in nature, and is called beta-plus decay. You can do all kinds of transformations, for example subtracting particles (which is the same as adding antiparticles). You can also turn an electron into a muon by removing an electron neutrino and adding a muon neutrino. I like to think of it as removing the electron-ness, and adding muon-ness:
−+=
or more conventionally:
+¯+=
This calculus works on the scale of nuclei, nucleons, and even quarks. This is the Feynman diagram from Johnathan Gross' answer:
=++=++(+−)=+++(¯+−)=+¯+−
Now we see that the formula in the beginning is incomplete, we were missing the neutrino. The reason it seemed to work without is that we were only considering the electric charge, but the neutrino is electrically uncharged.
The reason these cute calculations work is essentially a property called crossing symmetry, and the fact that quantum numbers are preserved. I think of this like a beginners version of Feynman diagrams (and in fact I think this is usually taught first. I figured this out in school, in the context of nuclear decay, and this was a major "wow" moment that increased my interest in particle physics.)
Of course, there are some downsides to this simplistic view. The most important is that there is no consideration of masses, and mass defects. Only heavier particles can decay into lighter ones, plus energy. But apart from that, this "calculating with particles" can be very useful, for example if you forgot whether to put a neutrino or an anti-neutrino.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/black-hole-vomits-years-after-gobbling-up-a-star/ar-AA131wxk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c563dc67233345a8a6c061fac8a00465
I guess everything has it's limits.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/did-scientists-already-prove-the-multiverse-is-real-unveiled/vi-AA130EXu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6b20e1c9cac74781c401469436383822
interesting. but what if it's based on time, not our choices.
that leftover. its important. because it's proof. that we exist in a time that loops. but that doesn't mean higher structures loop too.
what if the scar is our use of perpetual motion in history? the one i'm suggesting happened?
4 levels of multiverse lmao. multi, mega, deca, tetra.
based on their energy and direction, they have unexplained origin. tesseracts can shoot them from the ground up, between tesseracts.
time always flows foward. we can just make it flow backwards with our work.
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
while some break apart time through nukes, CERN, and possibly more.
Post by: Bored chemist on 17/10/2022 18:35:23
until you get out of the mindset that it can't happenNoether's theorem is not a "mindset", it is a proof.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 18:46:06
that time being perpetual would disqualify. a 2nd one is impossible. unless kryptid is a liar. he said one system is aloud. but what about symmetry. oh right, its out the window because in a sphere, the extra force released by ions have no where to go, adding more power. if it can't exit, and it can't send the force anywhere... wait. we found another flaw in the theorem. does it account for force all the time, or just went active in interactions.until you get out of the mindset that it can't happenNoether's theorem is not a "mindset", it is a proof.
what about when ionic force goes from one to another?
there is a comfort moment, even when spinning, that releases force bro.
and the mindset, is that it is proven. its proven in instances tried.
what if they only tried 2d plane interactions?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 19:17:59
½^n=2^-n (2 steps)
1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)
8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)
16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)
32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)
using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
still waiting for this to be explained.
Post by: Origin on 17/10/2022 19:56:40
that time being perpetual would disqualify. a 2nd one is impossible. unless kryptid is a liar. he said one system is aloud. but what about symmetry. oh right, its out the window because in a sphere, the extra force released by ions have no where to go, adding more power. if it can't exit, and it can't send the force anywhere... wait. we found another flaw in the theorem. does it account for force all the time, or just went active in interactions.Your inability to understand Noether's theorem does not mean it is wrong, it only means you don't understand it.
what about when ionic force goes from one to another?
Post by: Origin on 17/10/2022 19:59:21
½^n=2^-n (2 steps)
1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)
8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)
16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)
32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)
using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
still waiting for this to be explained.
Why should we try to explain your gibberish? I'll will however try to explain it; you are confused and are writing down a series of meaningless numbers and symbols.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 20:02:18
½^n=2^-n (2 steps)
1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)
8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)
16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)
32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)
using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
still waiting for this to be explained.
Why should we try to explain your gibberish? I'll will however try to explain it; you are confused and are writing down a series of meaningless numbers and symbols.
sorry maybe i should warn you that, by using 1/2,2, 4, 8, 16, 32 as distance, we are forcing the solution into 2^n=1/2^-n, as well as forcing distance to change where time is always constant. speed is the only reaction we don't manually set.
care to explain the step difference now?
i am so glad ya'll can spot my bs before you ask questions to even try to understand it.
its built the way it is to compare distances.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 20:15:16
if not here, i apologize.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 20:52:59
he said one system is aloud.
I don't think you understood me. Perpetual motion that doesn't create energy is allowed because it doesn't violate conservation of energy and therefore doesn't violate Noether's theorem.
and the mindset, is that it is proven.
It is.
its proven in instances tried.
That's the great thing about proofs in math: it's proven to be true in all circumstances already. You don't think that the Pythagorean theorem was proven by testing every possible number in the equation, do you? That would be impossible, since there are an infinite number of numbers. So we know for a mathematical certainty that conservation of energy holds in all circumstances where time symmetry also holds. If you want to beat conservation of energy, you also need to beat time symmetry.
This happens in the real world due to the metric expansion of space. This causes radiation in the universe to be redshifted, reducing the energy content of each photon. The energy doesn't actually go anywhere, it's just plain gone. This is allowed because time symmetry is violated: space now is not the same as space later (it's bigger). So that's a real life occasion where time symmetry is violated and thus Noether's theorem doesn't hold.
Post by: paul cotter on 17/10/2022 21:00:42
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 21:03:54
and what i'm prosing requires time as well. set by the flip ghost particle, and sets in motion new thoughts on science, and possibly, more accurate time measures. its based in multiverse theory as well, using 4 layers of multiverse as the upper end.he said one system is aloud.
I don't think you understood me. Perpetual motion that doesn't create energy is allowed because it doesn't violate conservation of energy and therefore doesn't violate Noether's theorem.and the mindset, is that it is proven.
It is.its proven in instances tried.
That's the great thing about proofs in math: it's proven to be true in all circumstances already. You don't think that the Pythagorean theorem was proven by testing every possible number in the equation, do you? That would be impossible, since there are an infinite number of numbers. So we know for a mathematical certainty that conservation of energy holds in all circumstances where time symmetry also holds. If you want to beat conservation of energy, you also need to beat time symmetry.
This happens in the real world due to the metric expansion of space. This causes radiation in the universe to be redshifted, reducing the energy content of each photon. The energy doesn't actually go anywhere, it's just plain gone. This is allowed because time symmetry is violated: space now is not the same as space later (it's bigger). So that's a real life occasion where time symmetry is violated and thus Noether's theorem doesn't hold.
we use n/1 as electron, n/2 as proton, n/3 for neutron. time is n=0 to n=1.
one time with 3 rates of generation.
the rates would be described as n/1, n/2, n/3. if time is one.
notice, time is set to the same as the electron. 1/1=1.
so if time is not perpetual, what is it?
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 21:04:37
I'm out.stay safe, and have an amazing day mr cotter.
thank you for letting us know.
Post by: Kryptid on 17/10/2022 21:22:11
and what i'm prosing requires time as well
What you need is a violation of time symmetry, not merely time itself.
so if time is not perpetual, what is it?
Time being perpetual doesn't represent a violation of conservation of energy, so I'm not sure of the relevance here.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 22:03:43
or
time=(a*distance)*(b*speed) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
or
time=(b*distance)*(a*speed) where a=2^n if b=½^n
or
time=(b*distance)*(a*speed) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
because 2^n=1/2^-n via 2n+1.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 22:30:53
time=(a*distance)*(b*speed) where a=2^n if b=½^n2^n+((1/2)(2^n))
or
time=(a*distance)*(b*speed) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
or
time=(b*distance)*(a*speed) where a=2^n if b=½^n
or
time=(b*distance)*(a*speed) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
because 2^n=1/2^-n via 2n+1.
it sets our magnet number.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 17/10/2022 22:47:21
and what i'm prosing requires time as well
What you need is a violation of time symmetry, not merely time itself.so if time is not perpetual, what is it?
Time being perpetual doesn't represent a violation of conservation of energy, so I'm not sure of the relevance here.
time=(a*distance)*(b*speed) where a=2^n if b=½^n
time=(a*distance)*(b*speed) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
time=(b*distance)*(a*speed) where a=2^n if b=½^n
time=(b*distance)*(a*speed) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
2^n=½^-n
2^n+((1/2)(2^n)) where n=diameter of the sphere to attach points to (magnets)
so explain the effects of having distance halved in a system that is created using equilateral pressures.
atoms cannot do this. we can.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 18/10/2022 04:09:06
Magnetic lines of force of a bar magnet shown by iron filings on paper
Detecting magnetic field with compass and with iron filings
Main article: Magnetic field
The phenomenon of magnetism is "mediated" by the magnetic field. An electric current or magnetic dipole creates a magnetic field, and that field, in turn, imparts magnetic forces on other particles that are in the fields.
Maxwell's equations, which simplify to the Biot–Savart law in the case of steady currents, describe the origin and behavior of the fields that govern these forces. Therefore, magnetism is seen whenever electrically charged particles are in motion—for example, from movement of electrons in an electric current, or in certain cases from the orbital motion of electrons around an atom's nucleus. They also arise from "intrinsic" magnetic dipoles arising from quantum-mechanical spin.
The same situations that create magnetic fields—charge moving in a current or in an atom, and intrinsic magnetic dipoles—are also the situations in which a magnetic field has an effect, creating a force. Following is the formula for moving charge; for the forces on an intrinsic dipole, see magnetic dipole.
When a charged particle moves through a magnetic field B, it feels a Lorentz force F given by the cross product:[19]
{\displaystyle \mathbf {F} =q(\mathbf {v} \times \mathbf {B} )}\mathbf{F} = q (\mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B})
where
{\displaystyle q}q is the electric charge of the particle, and
v is the velocity vector of the particle
Because this is a cross product, the force is perpendicular to both the motion of the particle and the magnetic field. It follows that the magnetic force does no work on the particle; it may change the direction of the particle's movement, but it cannot cause it to speed up or slow down. The magnitude of the force is
{\displaystyle F=qvB\sin \theta \,}F=qvB\sin\theta\,
where {\displaystyle \theta }\theta is the angle between v and B.
One tool for determining the direction of the velocity vector of a moving charge, the magnetic field, and the force exerted is labeling the index finger "V"[dubious – discuss], the middle finger "B", and the thumb "F" with your right hand. When making a gun-like configuration, with the middle finger crossing under the index finger, the fingers represent the velocity vector, magnetic field vector, and force vector, respectively. See also right-hand rule.
so how is harnessing the motion impossible, since we have force from inside. this does not break symmetry laws.
its self-powered with internal force mechanisms. if we were to employ electromagnets as well, we could up the power considerably. due to electromagnetic force (4 forces) 8n vs 8n+1 loses two steps.
Time=t
d=distance
s=speed
t=(a*d)*(b*s) where a=2^n if b=½^n
t=(a*d)*(b*s) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
t=(b*d)*(a*s) where a=2^n if b=½^n
t=(b*d)*(a*s) where a=2^-n if b=½^-n
2^n=½^-n
2n vs 2n+1 as well.
2^n+((1/2)(2^n)) where n=diameter of the sphere to attach points to (magnets @ each point)
1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)
4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)
8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)
16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)
32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)
using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
step would be n going from 1 to 2
quantity of stops available
steps/ quantity of stops available in steps
2n/2n+1 when n≥1 and whole number
2 steps/ 3 quantity of stops available in steps.
4 steps/ 5 quantity of stops available in steps.
6 steps/ 7 quantity of stops available in steps.
8 steps/ 9 quantity of stops available in steps.
12 steps/ 13 quantity of stops available in steps.
32 steps/ 33quantity of stops available in steps.
½^n=2^-n via 2 steps (including zero step)
n=(-1,0,1)
½^n=(2,0,½)
2^n=(½,0,2)
1/2y=-0.25 where y=-0.5
1/2y=0
1/2y=0.25 where y=0.5
Y uses 2 steps
1/2z+1=0.75 where z=-0.5
1/2z+1=1 where z=0
1/2z+1=1.25 where z=0.5
Z uses 2 steps
2a=-1 where a=-0.5
2a=0 where a=0
2a=1 where a=0.5
A uses 2 steps
2b+1=0 where b=-0.5
2b+1=1 where b=0
2b+1=2 where b=0.5
B uses 2 steps
4c=-2 where c=-0.5
4c=-1 where c=-0.25
4c=0 where c=0
4c=1 where c=0.25
4c=2 where c=0.5
C uses 4 steps
4d+1=-1 where d=-0.5
4d+1=0 where d=-0.25
4d+1=1 where d=0
4d+1=2 where d=0.25
4d+1=3 where d=0.5
D uses 4 steps
8e=-4 where e=-0.5
8e=-3 where e=-0.375
8e=-2 where e=0.25
8e=-1 where e=-0.125
8e=0 where e=0
8e=1 where e=0.125
8e=2 where e=0.25
8e=3 where e=0.375
8e=4 where e=0.5
E uses 8 steps
8f+1=-1 where f=-0.5
8f+1=0 where f=-0.125
8f+1=1 where f=0
8f+1=2 where f=0.125
8f+1=3 where f=0.25
8f+1=4 where f=0.375
8f+1=5 where f=0.5
F uses 6 steps
16g=-4 where g=0.5
16g=-3 where g=-0.1875
16g=-2 where g=-0.25
16g=-1 where g=-0.0625
16g=0 where g=0
16g=1 where g=0.0625
16g=2 where g=0.25
16g=3 where g=0.1875
16g=4 where g=0.5
G uses 8 steps
16h+1=-3 where h=-0.5
16h+1=-2 where h=-0.1875
16h+1=-1 where h=-0.125
16h+1=0 where h=-0.0625
16h+1=1 where h=0
16h+1=2 where g=0.03125
16h+1=3 where h=0.0125
16h+1=4 where h=0.1875
16h+1=5 where h=0.25
16h+1=6 where h=0.3125
16h+1=7 where h=0.375
16h+1=8 where h=0.4375
16h+1=9 where h=0.5
H uses 12 steps
in essence we would be changing the magnetic force into electrical force, but also using it to increase speed, by lowing distance. it can be harnessed. Now, for safety, can i get some help.
we start with how far magnets have to be to start movement. using a+b=c+b, where b=1, we decrease our b, or distance between spheres, to create more pressure, more power. we set distance through equilibrium, to also equalize pressure. it uses magnetic torque in equal directions. but the caging system creates spin.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 20/10/2022 07:22:41
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/universe-expansion-rate-mystery?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 20/10/2022 07:25:55
My work involves searching for tesseracts.
I just don't limit the time frame. See a tesseract is a 4d dimensional object. in a 3d environment, 4d is a double existent state in 3d. meaning, movement. Atoms have a perpetuality system that releases sound. excess energy. It times said sound. More than likely it's reduced at the time electricity flows through the atoms surrounding area.
the smallest 4d space that we have, is in an atom. it exists between the neutron and proton.
Pillars of creation are bascially, in affect, the universe's space neutron.
Post by: KiltedWeirdo on 10/08/2023 16:21:38
https://www.geogebra.org/m/kcda4cae (simple infinity)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/qwvccgcz (dueterium)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/yc8thvwk (helium)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/fqrrmuvw (2+2=5 visualized through 2n+2n=5 where n=1.25)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/ejpfww58 (matter to anttimatter fractal progression, or opposite cone fractal progression)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/gnjuskjm (torus dual timing, spindle=electron, donut=proton, both=neutron)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/mcwwbtrq (expansion of circles via 1/3)
https://www.geogebra.org/m/mrzwy6tw (flower of life)
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/m1dsmrj02e (collatz proven by unphasing then comparison)
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ubcpf48a3u (varied adjustment of 1-2^n)
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/rxqs6t2sbf (mandelbrot grid for sin and cos comparisons)
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/yvu86vkwz0 (Gabriels horn via electromagnetic spring principle)
all positive spectrum is allowed by:
Post by: Origin on 12/08/2023 17:46:44
Post by: Bored chemist on 12/08/2023 18:09:28
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?A bit more recently than that we proved that PM is impossible.
Were you not aware of that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem
Post by: Bored chemist on 12/08/2023 18:10:52
you expect to be heard while you shout that i'm speaking nonsenseI haven't shouted, I have cited evidence.
Do you grasp the difference?