[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

you guys notice the same red blue green is also present in particle physics descriptions? hmm.



Proton quark structure: 2 up quarks and 1 down quark. The gluon tubes or flux tubes are now known to be Y shaped.
red blue and green!

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

I've done quite a bit of inspections.

[Kryptid]

Perpetual motion is allowed so long as it doesn't create energy. Noether's theorem has already been proven. A person doesn't have to understand it in order for it to be true.

I also really wish you'd go back and edit previous posts when you have something new to add instead of multi-posting over and over again.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Perpetual motion is allowed so long as it doesn't create energy. Noether's theorem has already been proven. A person doesn't have to understand it in order for it to be true.

I also really wish you'd go back and edit previous posts when you have something new to add instead of multi-posting over and over again.

i started to, then bored started up his stuff.
so atoms never allow sound or vibrations to exit, or do they exit in sync with other atoms eating up said energy?
i wish people would quit holding me to a standard they don't hold each other too.
has bored been reprimanded, no because you guys think just like him. that i'm wrong, so its suddenly allowed lmao.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Perpetual motion is allowed so long as it doesn't create energy. Noether's theorem has already been proven. A person doesn't have to understand it in order for it to be true.

I also really wish you'd go back and edit previous posts when you have something new to add instead of multi-posting over and over again.

i started to, then bored started up his stuff.
so atoms never allow sound or vibrations to exit, or do they exit in sync with other atoms eating up said energy?

how does fusion not violate it then?
is it another, allowed exception?

[Kryptid]

If an atom emits sound, then the atom loses the same amount of energy that the sound wave contains. It's not an unlimited source of energy.

Fusion doesn't create energy. It converts nuclear potential energy into kinetic energy. The total energy remains the same.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

until the flip generates it again.
symmetry is broken in a spherical system because it returns the same energy back to the outside.
it mirrors it. because in a sphere, force has no where to go.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

until you get out of the mindset that it can't happen, you won't be able to see it as a possibility. without seeing at as a possibility, your mind won't work to grasp it. the idea that unknown particle interaction is tied to infinity and atoms emitting sound. only being able to do it at regular intervals, and less sound being in any structure that does not have a neutron.

[Bored chemist]

You still won't get net energy.

we can try. or you can make statements.
which is science?

Not trying, because we already know the outcome.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is well classified. I believe Einstein said something about it.
But it wasn't called science.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

You still won't get net energy.

we can try. or you can make statements.
which is science?

Not trying, because we already know the outcome.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is well classified. I believe Einstein said something about it.
But it wasn't called science.

what is the difference in science and insanity?
if science is changing one stipulation to test a result, and insanity is repeating the same thing expecting different results. science and insanity go hand in hand.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

see what i've noticed is, its went from absolutely impossible, to only in alowed systems, to, well you can't harness energy. i thought you said we couldn't make motion. but motion would be aloud. so if atoms push off sound, periodically, and we set it right, could we not generate a finite amount of energy by closing the gap between layers even more?
we set distance. meaning, the more iterations of 2^n=1/2^-n via 2n+1 we move, the more we make. that long string of comparing 2n, and 2n+1 in -0.5 to 0.5 shows that.


½^n=2^-n (2 steps)

1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)

8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)

16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)

32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)

using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n
the inequality that shows possibility.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WaveNumberTheory/comments/xn3lgy/2n_vs_2n1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
in a sphere, the force has to go somewhere. unused but exerted ionic force from the magnets. not used for motion, but still present. that force then does what? just disappears?
or does it become a reflexive push back on the system into motion?
see if it transmits motion to the inside, then it must also do the same backwards, going out, but forward in time.

2 up, 1 down, right?
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/348588/proton-2-up-1-down-quark-neutron-2-down-1-up-how-can-neutron-proton-ele
from another:

The other answers are right, but I'd like to offer the opposite statement, too: A neutron is a proton plus an electron.

One wonderful thing about nuclear and particle physics is that you can do "arithmetics" with particles. In some sense, you can say a proton and an electron add up to a neutron, +−=. This is what you have in beta decay (if you are missing something, bear with me). But you can also "do the same on both sides" like in math (aka equivalence transformations). Lets add a positron:

⇒++=+−=+−++=∣∣++
Note that the positron and the electron cancel out. The resulting formula =++ can also happen in nature, and is called beta-plus decay. You can do all kinds of transformations, for example subtracting particles (which is the same as adding antiparticles). You can also turn an electron into a muon by removing an electron neutrino and adding a muon neutrino. I like to think of it as removing the electron-ness, and adding muon-ness:

−+=
or more conventionally:
+¯+=
This calculus works on the scale of nuclei, nucleons, and even quarks. This is the Feynman diagram from Johnathan Gross' answer:

=++=++(+−)=+++(¯+−)=+¯+−
Now we see that the formula in the beginning is incomplete, we were missing the neutrino. The reason it seemed to work without is that we were only considering the electric charge, but the neutrino is electrically uncharged.

The reason these cute calculations work is essentially a property called crossing symmetry, and the fact that quantum numbers are preserved. I think of this like a beginners version of Feynman diagrams (and in fact I think this is usually taught first. I figured this out in school, in the context of nuclear decay, and this was a major "wow" moment that increased my interest in particle physics.)

Of course, there are some downsides to this simplistic view. The most important is that there is no consideration of masses, and mass defects. Only heavier particles can decay into lighter ones, plus energy. But apart from that, this "calculating with particles" can be very useful, for example if you forgot whether to put a neutrino or an anti-neutrino.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/black-hole-vomits-years-after-gobbling-up-a-star/ar-AA131wxk?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c563dc67233345a8a6c061fac8a00465
I guess everything has it's limits.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/did-scientists-already-prove-the-multiverse-is-real-unveiled/vi-AA130EXu?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6b20e1c9cac74781c401469436383822
interesting. but what if it's based on time, not our choices.
that leftover. its important. because it's proof. that we exist in a time that loops. but that doesn't mean higher structures loop too.
what if the scar is our use of perpetual motion in history? the one i'm suggesting happened?
4 levels of multiverse lmao. multi, mega, deca, tetra.
based on their energy and direction, they have unexplained origin. tesseracts can shoot them from the ground up, between tesseracts.
time always flows foward. we can just make it flow backwards with our work.
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
while some break apart time through nukes, CERN, and possibly more.

[Bored chemist]

until you get out of the mindset that it can't happen

Noether's theorem is not a "mindset", it is a proof.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

until you get out of the mindset that it can't happen

Noether's theorem is not a "mindset", it is a proof.

that time being perpetual would disqualify. a 2nd one is impossible. unless kryptid is a liar. he said one system is aloud. but what about symmetry. oh right, its out the window because in a sphere, the extra force released by ions have no where to go, adding more power. if it can't exit, and it can't send the force anywhere... wait. we found another flaw in the theorem. does it account for force all the time, or just went active in interactions.
what about when ionic force goes from one to another?
there is a comfort moment, even when spinning, that releases force bro.

and the mindset, is that it is proven. its proven in instances tried.
what if they only tried 2d plane interactions?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

½^n=2^-n (2 steps)

1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)

8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)

16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)

32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)

using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n

still waiting for this to be explained.

[Origin]

that time being perpetual would disqualify. a 2nd one is impossible. unless kryptid is a liar. he said one system is aloud. but what about symmetry. oh right, its out the window because in a sphere, the extra force released by ions have no where to go, adding more power. if it can't exit, and it can't send the force anywhere... wait. we found another flaw in the theorem. does it account for force all the time, or just went active in interactions.
what about when ionic force goes from one to another?

Your inability to understand Noether's theorem does not mean it is wrong, it only means you don't understand it.

[Origin]

½^n=2^-n (2 steps)

1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)

8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)

16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)

32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)

using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n

still waiting for this to be explained.

Why should we try to explain your gibberish?  I'll will however try to explain it; you are confused and are writing down a series of meaningless numbers and symbols.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

½^n=2^-n (2 steps)

1/2n vs 1/2n+1 as 1/2y vs 1/2z+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

2n vs 2n+1 as 2a vs 2b+1 (2 steps vs 2 steps)

4n vs 4n+1 as 4c vs 4d+1 (4 steps vs 4 steps)

8n vs 8n+1 as 8e vs 8f+1 (8 steps vs 6 steps) (-2 steps)

16n vs 16n+1 as 16g vs 16h+1 (8 steps vs 12 steps) (+4 steps)

32n vs 32n+1 as 32i vs 32j+1 (32 steps vs 32 steps)

using -0.5,......,0.5 to find result via n

still waiting for this to be explained.

Why should we try to explain your gibberish?  I'll will however try to explain it; you are confused and are writing down a series of meaningless numbers and symbols.

sorry maybe i should warn you that, by using 1/2,2, 4, 8, 16, 32 as distance, we are forcing the solution into 2^n=1/2^-n, as well as forcing distance to change where time is always constant. speed is the only reaction we don't manually set.
care to explain the step difference now?

i am so glad ya'll can spot my bs before you ask questions to even try to understand it.
its built the way it is to compare distances.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

paul cotter. it keeps saying your here. got a thought you'd like to share. if you need time, take what you need.

if not here, i apologize.

[Kryptid]

he said one system is aloud.

I don't think you understood me. Perpetual motion that doesn't create energy is allowed because it doesn't violate conservation of energy and therefore doesn't violate Noether's theorem.

and the mindset, is that it is proven.

It is.

its proven in instances tried.

That's the great thing about proofs in math: it's proven to be true in all circumstances already. You don't think that the Pythagorean theorem was proven by testing every possible number in the equation, do you? That would be impossible, since there are an infinite number of numbers. So we know for a mathematical certainty that conservation of energy holds in all circumstances where time symmetry also holds. If you want to beat conservation of energy, you also need to beat time symmetry.

This happens in the real world due to the metric expansion of space. This causes radiation in the universe to be redshifted, reducing the energy content of each photon. The energy doesn't actually go anywhere, it's just plain gone. This is allowed because time symmetry is violated: space now is not the same as space later (it's bigger). So that's a real life occasion where time symmetry is violated and thus Noether's theorem doesn't hold.

[paul cotter]

I'm out.