[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

disc of sabu could be an artifact from the other perpetual model. the "line" model.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Disk_of_Sabu
gives us 1,000 years, roughly, of possible perpetual motion existance before Ramses destroyed the water people

[Kryptid]

science is commonly accepted conjecture bro. not guaranteed fact.

Do you know what a theorem is?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

a general proposition not self-evident but proved by a chain of reasoning; a truth established by means of accepted truths.

pay close attention "by means of accepted truths"
thanks for proving my point!
ACCEPTED TRUTHS
by very commonly accepted definition.
wanna talk to me like a child anymore?
or should i talk to you that way since you ignored and asked anyway, like a child?

*edit. sorry kryptid, I thought i was still being told i'm wrong by the same guy, you had disappeared for a bit, didn't expect you." lol.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.

the more of us that realize the "commonly accepted" nature of physics, and test it, the more we can actually propel physics research. that is what i'm trying to do.

[paul cotter]

I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.

[Bored chemist]

the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.

Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?

[Bored chemist]

disc of sabu could be an artifact from the other perpetual model.

No, it can't.
Because PM is impossible.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

yes the rules are the same.
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?
physics stays the same.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

No, it can't.
Because PM is impossible.
I've said good day. now i'm gonna ask that you refrain contact. you expect to be heard while you shout that i'm speaking nonsense. you have even stated your not reading what is being said. so, at this point you are replying to harass me. have a great rest of your day.
You haven't the mindset to contemplate the truest natures of existence, until you doubt what you think you know.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.

unless, like me, he's ignored because he realizes that science has a heading that won't find a solution.
due to wrongfully accepted, but accepted, rules that don't apply.
which is more concievable, that we have no idea how energy pops up in space, or that European institutions didn't want to be ex-communicated, so they allowed religious pressure to sway things.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

break things down using charge + spin + mass = gravity, just for fun.
break it down by 5 particles (standard)
or 6 (hexagonal)
4.002/10=0.4002
4.002/12=0.3335
play with weights and see if you can balance it without a/10 leading you to be overweight.
because i gurantee it won't ever balance in 5. 6 it will. Collatz Conjecture has shown us that.
5 is prime, and odd, which forces a 2n+1=5, not a 2n=6 situation.
it splits and goes un-even in balance, always uneven during breakdown.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

I see you quoted Nassim Haramein . He's a an extraordinarily deluded crank or crackpot, whichever is the best description. Referring to such dubious sources sinks your argument on the spot.

I don't like the way Haramein operates, almost never citing another's work. but look into his work.
i'm not talking about atoms being overtly overpowered. through electron movement, most of it's power is diminished.
I'm talking 0.001 of excess energy per cycle. minutely overpowered. so small that it seems stable. like mass seems stable but may be holographic.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

hydrogen=1.00784 u (1 electron + 1 proton)
deuterium=2.014 amu (1 electron + 1 proton +1 neutron)
Helium=4.002 (stable) (2 electron + 2 proton +2 neutron)
4.002/2=2.001

2.001/5=0.4002

0.4002+0.2001=0.6003

0.4002-0.2001=0.2001

0.2001 electron
0.4002 proton
0.6003 neutron

0.6003+0.4002=1.0005 (lighter than hydrogen)

0.6003+0.4002+0.2001=1.2006 (way too light for deuterium)

0.6003-0.10005=0.50025
0.4002+0.10005=0.50025

0.2001 electron
0.50025 proton
0.50025 neutron

0.50025+0.2001=0.70035
0.50025+0.50025+0.2001=1.2006

0.50025-0.050025=0.450225
0.50025+0.050025=0.550275

0.2001 electron
0.450225 proton
0.550275 neutron

0.2001+0.550275=0.750375
0.2001+0.550275+0.450225=1.2006


like i said. a balancing issue is shown.
gotta love chaos theory and collatz conjecture. its as if n/2 evens and 0.5n are nearly the same thing lol!
whereas:
4.002/12=0.3335
electron=0.334
proton=0.667
neutron=1
0.334+0.667=1.001 (under hydrogen)
0.334+0.667+1=2.001 (under deuterium)
2*(0.334+0.667+1)=4.002 (helium exact)

allowing:
electron=-1 (movement)
proton= +2 (movement)
neutron=-2+1 (movement)
or :
point=electron where line segment=proton, where triangle=neutron, where square=atom. (number theory by shapes)

[Bored chemist]

the symmetry issue does possibly apply to standard model. but not the weighted hexagon model. let me remind you of the way water compression works, in hexagon systems.

Can you explain why you think that the compressibility of water is related to the fact that the laws of physics are the same tomorrow as they were yesterday?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

you didn't add to it. like real childish bro.
here you go. a lesson about language. it can be shaped by man's hand with ill intent just like your behavior shows.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

yes the rules are the same.
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?
physics stays the same.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.

i answered.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

unless humanity changed physics when they created new atoms. still pondering on what that might have done. keep in mind, time is not straightforward. some effects may be time reversed as well. (I wonder if new atoms could cause a time loop)

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Einsteinium is a synthetic element with the symbol Es and atomic number 99. Einsteinium is a member of the actinide series and it is the seventh transuranium element. It was named in honor of Albert Einstein. Einsteinium was discovered as a component of the debris of the first hydrogen bomb explosion in 1952.

[Bored chemist]

you didn't add to it. like real childish bro.

I didn't need to add to it.

It's your job to answer it.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

yes the rules are the same.
do we understand physics the same as 500 years ago?
physics stays the same.
our understanding of physics evolves bro.

i answered.

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twice now i have shown this to you. like i've been saying. please refrain from harassment if not giving equal opportunity to be heard. I know understanding me is difficult, but you are not making it easier if anyone is interested in hearing it out. you are trolling. its very self disrespectful actually. you should be better, but here you are. repeating but not given equal strides. is your ego in jeopardy or something?