[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

we have no good way to measure time.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=clock

As of May 2010, the smallest time interval uncertainty in direct measurements is on the order of 12 attoseconds (1.2 × 10−17 seconds), about 3.7 × 1026 Planck times.[35]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

In medieval philosophical writings, the atom was a unit of time referred to as the smallest possible division of time. The earliest known occurrence in English is in Byrhtferth's Enchiridion (a science text) of 1010–1012,[33] where it was defined as 1/564 of a momentum (11⁄2 minutes),[34] and thus equal to 15/94 of a second. It was used in the computus, the process of calculating the date of Easter.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

In medieval philosophical writings, the atom was a unit of time referred to as the smallest possible division of time. The earliest known occurrence in English is in Byrhtferth's Enchiridion (a science text) of 1010–1012,[33] where it was defined as 1/564 of a momentum (11⁄2 minutes),[34] and thus equal to 15/94 of a second. It was used in the computus, the process of calculating the date of Easter.

why easter? if science has not been influenced by the search for god, why easter?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

In medieval philosophical writings, the atom was a unit of time referred to as the smallest possible division of time. The earliest known occurrence in English is in Byrhtferth's Enchiridion (a science text) of 1010–1012,[33] where it was defined as 1/564 of a momentum (11⁄2 minutes),[34] and thus equal to 15/94 of a second. It was used in the computus, the process of calculating the date of Easter.

why easter? if science has not been influenced by the search for god, why easter?

oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Time is not an empirical concept. For neither co-existence nor succession would be perceived by us, if the representation of time did not exist as a foundation a priori. Without this presupposition, we could not represent to ourselves that things exist together at one and the same time, or at different times, that is, contemporaneously, or in succession.

Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason (1781), trans. Vasilis Politis (London: Dent., 1991), p.54.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Ancient cultures such as Incan, Mayan, Hopi, and other Native American Tribes – plus the Babylonians, ancient Greeks, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and others – have a concept of a wheel of time: they regard time as cyclical and quantic,[clarification needed] consisting of repeating ages that happen to every being of the Universe between birth and extinction.[36]

In general, the Islamic and Judeo-Christian world-view regards time as linear[37] and directional,[38] beginning with the act of creation by God. The traditional Christian view sees time ending, teleologically,[39] with the eschatological end of the present order of things, the "end time".

In the Old Testament book Ecclesiastes, traditionally ascribed to Solomon (970–928 BC), time (as the Hebrew word עידן, זמן iddan (age, as in "Ice age") zĕman(time) is often translated) was traditionally regarded[by whom?] as a medium for the passage of predestined events.[citation needed] (Another word, زمان" זמן" zamān, meant time fit for an event, and is used as the modern Arabic, Persian, and Hebrew equivalent to the English word "time".)

Time in Greek mythology
The Greek language denotes two distinct principles, Chronos and Kairos. The former refers to numeric, or chronological, time. The latter, literally "the right or opportune moment", relates specifically to metaphysical or Divine time. In theology, Kairos is qualitative, as opposed to quantitative.[40]

In Greek mythology, Chronos (ancient Greek: Χρόνος) is identified as the Personification of Time. His name in Greek means "time" and is alternatively spelled Chronus (Latin spelling) or Khronos. Chronos is usually portrayed as an old, wise man with a long, gray beard, such as "Father Time". Some English words whose etymological root is khronos/chronos include chronology, chronometer, chronic, anachronism, synchronize, and chronicle.

Time in Kabbalah
According to Kabbalists, "time" is a paradox[41] and an illusion.[42] Both the future and the past are recognized to be combined and simultaneously present.[clarification needed]

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Ancient cultures such as Incan, Mayan, Hopi, and other Native American Tribes – plus the Babylonians, ancient Greeks, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and others – have a concept of a wheel of time: they regard time as cyclical and quantic,[clarification needed] consisting of repeating ages that happen to every being of the Universe between birth and extinction.[36]

In general, the Islamic and Judeo-Christian world-view regards time as linear[37] and directional,[38] beginning with the act of creation by God. The traditional Christian view sees time ending, teleologically,[39] with the eschatological end of the present order of things, the "end time".

In the Old Testament book Ecclesiastes, traditionally ascribed to Solomon (970–928 BC), time (as the Hebrew word עידן, זמן iddan (age, as in "Ice age") zĕman(time) is often translated) was traditionally regarded[by whom?] as a medium for the passage of predestined events.[citation needed] (Another word, زمان" זמן" zamān, meant time fit for an event, and is used as the modern Arabic, Persian, and Hebrew equivalent to the English word "time".)

Time in Greek mythology
The Greek language denotes two distinct principles, Chronos and Kairos. The former refers to numeric, or chronological, time. The latter, literally "the right or opportune moment", relates specifically to metaphysical or Divine time. In theology, Kairos is qualitative, as opposed to quantitative.[40]

In Greek mythology, Chronos (ancient Greek: Χρόνος) is identified as the Personification of Time. His name in Greek means "time" and is alternatively spelled Chronus (Latin spelling) or Khronos. Chronos is usually portrayed as an old, wise man with a long, gray beard, such as "Father Time". Some English words whose etymological root is khronos/chronos include chronology, chronometer, chronic, anachronism, synchronize, and chronicle.

Time in Kabbalah
According to Kabbalists, "time" is a paradox[41] and an illusion.[42] Both the future and the past are recognized to be combined and simultaneously present.[clarification needed]

a universe itself has a beginning and an end. the multiverse splits these into 64 wedges. the megaverse allows 128 universe times in wedged multiverse format. time itself is a perpetual system. made of lower perpetual systems.
nature tricked us into a loop, to allow greater advancement in slower time. When we produce atomic number 121, we should exit said loop. we might even experience some kind of odd or weird feeling from it. that's at most what we should experience.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

think of nature as a woman. if she wants a date with you, she might think to trick you into asking her out, while playing hard to get.
now apply that to understanding nature. perpetual structures. we had to see if another way could work. and it don't. it gets us close but no cigar. no working thoery of everything.
until we change and re-look at things from a different viewpoint and a little more work.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

philosophy is thought based science.
Schrodinger's cat is akin to 2n+1. dead=-1, where unknown=0, where alive=1. (-1,0,1) 2 movements, 3 steps.
2n+1
2 movements over 3 steps.
1 movement over 2 steps.
3 movements over 4 steps.
an electron is 1 movement, 1 step.
a proton is 1 movement, 2 steps.
a neutron is 1 movement, 2 steps. (fully discharged)
a neutron is 1 movement, 3 steps. (fully charged)

a proton is 1 movement, 2 steps.
a neutron is 1 movement, 2 steps. (fully discharged)
a neutron is 1 movement, 3 steps. (fully charged)
relates to:

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because the way 72 degrees and 108 degrees mirror each other in 180 degrees, or create an x in 360

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Bored chemist. I do value your opinion and right to speak. I just hope you'll focus on asking of questions. You are allowed to ask me if i struggle. any commentary after on its affects on believability is up to each person reading it. you are welcome to say the idea is fool of crap and you can't see it. not to say i'm full of crap because of communication barriers because of something out of my control (autism and mental health issues). I do want to get along. but it takes mutual respect to do so. And I am trying to find my words as i always do. Sometimes its best to let someone who is willing to think, think. less words can be more, if we are willing to work for it. more results and approaches to think about possibilities, instead of ignoring because of probabilities.
and yes, that theorem is part of nature, but does nature truly use it?
or does it no longer apply if we consider a possible charging and discharging system, and where it would be in an atom?

[Bored chemist]

oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?

The idea of atoms is a lot older than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus#Atomic_hypothesis

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

oh wait, is this evidence that the atom was known about and theorized as far back as 1010? what? impossible you say?

The idea of atoms is a lot older than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus#Atomic_hypothesis

so what if a cataclysmic event that humanity made, showed us that they possibly existed. sending us on a chase to discover how, while others feared what might happen if we discovered the truth?
the ones in fear, would try to stop them with reason. math. science. control and destruction.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

what if the disc of sabu was a perpetual motion piece. of the safer line version. what if ancients made one or many older devices? it could explain how the pyramids were built.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Which pharaoh fought the Sea People?
Ramses III
The Egyptians waged two wars against the Sea Peoples: the first, in the fifth year of King Merneptah (1236–23 bce); the second, in the reign of Ramses III (c. 1198–66 bce).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples
Atlantis?
destroyed by perpetual motion?
what if they were describing flying ships using ionic tech?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Democritus
Born   c. 460 BC
Abdera, Thrace
Died   c. 370 BC
The Sea Peoples are a hypothesized seafaring confederation that attacked ancient Egypt and other regions in the East Mediterranean prior to and during the Late Bronze Age collapse (1200–900 BCE).[1][2] Following the creation of the concept in the 19th century, the Sea Peoples' incursions became one of the most famous chapters of Egyptian history, given its connection with, in the words of Wilhelm Max Müller, "the most important questions of ethnography and the primitive history of classic nations".[3][4]
if you look at their page, hieroglyphics of birds.

[Bored chemist]

what if the disc of sabu

It isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.

[Bored chemist]

it could explain how the pyramids were built.

We know how they were built.
Lots of people.
No "magic" needed.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

what if the disc of sabu

It isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435
papers exist on it.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

what if the disc of sabu

It isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435
papers exist on it.

I propose lodestone could have been carved to be held.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodestone

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

what if the disc of sabu

It isn't "real" it's just a sculpture.

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=114435
papers exist on it.

I propose lodestone could have been carved to be held.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodestone

Emery found the enigmatic Disc on January 10, 1936, while working on the site where the tomb of Prince Sabu, a ruler of the First Dynasty and son of Pharaoh Anejib, was situated. The tomb of Sabu was located in the northern part of Saqqara, at the edge of a plateau. There were seven chambers in his tomb, consisting of animal bones, flint tools, ceramic vessels, ivory products, stone bowls. The prince’s body was in the largest room. The items found at the burial ground did not surprise Emery except one which was shattered in pieces. When the Disc was restored, it became one of the most intrigued ancient artifacts left by Ancient Egyptians.


except one, which was shattered in pieces. they should have taken the pieces as well. they didn't think it could be put back together and put to use. but it existed. it would be porous to allow ionic flow.
good thing the only use we seek is as historical evidence.
why have we never found any more? as a sculpture, why would it be seen as valuable to be taken to the afterlife?