[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.

scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.

right after. is the bloody f^n renaissance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
kinda explains how if the church knew all the answers in the 1500's.
and why certian church artists went absolutely nuts in artwork.
da vinci, like to hide messages.
he worked with flower of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#/media/File:Leonardo_da_Vinci_%E2%80%93_Codex_Atlanticus_folio_307v.jpg

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.

scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.

right after. is the bloody f^n renaissance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
kinda explains how if the church knew all the answers in the 1500's.
and why certian church artists went absolutely nuts in artwork.
da vinci, like to hide messages.
he worked with flower of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#/media/File:Leonardo_da_Vinci_%E2%80%93_Codex_Atlanticus_folio_307v.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_world_map
It is a map drawn using the "octant projection" and dated by Richard Henry Major to approximately 1514. It was found loosely inserted among a Codex of Leonardo da Vinci. It features an early use of the name America. The map incorporates information from the travels of Amerigo Vespucci, published in 1503 and 1505.[1] Additionally, the map depicts the Arctic as an ocean and Antarctica as a continent of about the correct size.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Nobody has all the answers. What I asked is "what has an ancient indecipherable manuscript got in connection with science". Absolutely nothing in my opinion, it's just wild speculation.

scientists have always faced some form of government oversight, since governments have existed. in a monarchy, the treat of disobeying a king can lead to death.
through threats of death the church was able to sway science.
Voynich was how the church learned the truth of science, to try and keep us away from learning the truth. I'm talking about motive, means, and evidence of science being purposefully misled, by the church of rome.
right after columbus sailed to america, we see the church's reactions in papal decrees. the timing of it all goes against the church. the fact they created the racist language that helps keep us separated today, further proof.
I don't have the exact document that makes the statements. its a hard read. especially when you consider how many people have died because of it, and the racism created by it.

right after. is the bloody f^n renaissance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
kinda explains how if the church knew all the answers in the 1500's.
and why certian church artists went absolutely nuts in artwork.
da vinci, like to hide messages.
he worked with flower of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlapping_circles_grid#/media/File:Leonardo_da_Vinci_%E2%80%93_Codex_Atlanticus_folio_307v.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo%27s_world_map
It is a map drawn using the "octant projection" and dated by Richard Henry Major to approximately 1514. It was found loosely inserted among a Codex of Leonardo da Vinci. It features an early use of the name America. The map incorporates information from the travels of Amerigo Vespucci, published in 1503 and 1505.[1] Additionally, the map depicts the Arctic as an ocean and Antarctica as a continent of about the correct size.

dig into what it states.
electron as 1n
proton as 2n
neutron as 3n.
all created with the same time.
3 rates allows perfect sync, with our overweight from atomic number, 4-4.002=0.002 overweight, being the perpetuality overflow of sound.
it also takes most of the conjecture out of science. where 5 parts (standard model) instead of 6 creates a mess. why?
quantum.
((2n+1)+2n) or ((2n+1)*2)

that +2n vs *2 makes a world of difference in the long run.
you "think" it has nothing to do with it. what if your "thoughts" are wrong?
5 is prime. meaning it has issues breaking down unless 5th dimension is possible. pentagons have a unique bisection aspect.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

the bisection aspect. possibly cancels 5th dimension. if so, no qualities would be observable in addition to charge, spin, and mass. meaning Charge + spin + mass = gravity.
if so, collatz states impossibility to find comfort.
3n+1 odds, n/2 evens.
3(5)+1=16
5/2=2.5
showing our bisection issue.
this is a unique feature caused by numbers. odds, evens, odds. evens, odds, evens. it always takes 3 to complete a unit, if a unit has to start and stop at the same item type.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

collatz collapses into two main sequences. (collapse- falls to n=2 or n=3, through n/2)
2x and 3x.
making the 5 point standard model impossible to balance.

3+2=5 where 5 is prime.
collatz sends 5 to 2x via 16 before it crashes.
6/2=3
8/2=4
10/2=5
12/2=6
14/2=7
16/2=8

7*3+1=22 (hi pi)
22/2=11
7,22,11,34,17,52,26,13,40,20,10,5,16,8,4,2,1,4,2,1.
7/22=pi.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

you guys done said, scientists have been wrong in the past. and if i'm wrong, hell yes. i'm not brilliant and i don't need to kick myself in the ass for how lazy i was.
but if i'm right, i've been a lazy son of a bitch. it took me 36 years to dig into the truth.
you guys can't have it both ways. either there is a chance we are wrong, or we are flawless in our thinking. which is it?
could a flip ghost interaction been missed?
what if we never thought to look for it?

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

you guys done said, scientists have been wrong in the past. and if i'm wrong, hell yes. i'm not brilliant and i don't need to kick myself in the ass for how lazy i was.
but if i'm right, i've been a lazy son of a bitch. it took me 36 years to dig into the truth.
you guys can't have it both ways. either there is a chance we are wrong, or we are flawless in our thinking. which is it?
could a flip ghost interaction been missed?
what if we never thought to look for it?

and unless you have thought to look for it, or know someone besides me that has, we should entertain the possibility that we've been misled. just for a precaution.

as no action is a waste, when done in protection of another. I don't want anything to happen to you guys, or anyone else, because of greed of people who no longer live.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

(3n+1)/(y/2)=x
(3n-1)/(y/2)=x
(3n+1)/(y/2)=-x
(3n-1)/(y/2)=-x
my modified collatz as 2d entanglement. (a quantum mechanic)
z might just be:
(3x+1)/(y/2)=z
(3x-1)/(y/2)=z
(3x+1)/(y/2)=-z
(3x-1)/(y/2)=-z

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

my thoughts on collatz.
using phi to set comfort. (a+b=c+b where b=1)
imagined as particles:
3n+1 where n=3 creates a square that allows a z axis interaction from the +1. it retains its square and makes it move in z.

[Bored chemist]

Which men?
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.

What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.

umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.

I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.

you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.

No.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?

I tried already but he ignored my question.

Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on  increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?

[Bored chemist]

using phi to set comfort.

You still have not said what you think "comfort" means.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Which men?
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.

What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.

umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.

I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.

you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.

No.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?

I tried already but he ignored my question.

Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on  increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?

i didn't ask you what time it was. i asked you what time itself is.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

using phi to set comfort.

You still have not said what you think "comfort" means.

comfort is described by ionic entanglements. if comfortable, there is no reason to seek comfort, if not comfortable, it seeks comfort. if we push two opposite poles together, comfort. if we push two like poles together, being uncomfortable makes them move away. comfort pulls together. discomfort pushes apart.
magnets seek comfort from each other, through temporary ionic entanglements.
data moving. which is why disc of sabu needed to be porous.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Which men?
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.

What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.

umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.

I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.

you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.

No.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?

I tried already but he ignored my question.

Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on  increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?

i didn't ask you what time it was. i asked you what time itself is.

i followed it up by copying the phisosophy section of wiki on time. so, yea. i described my own.
n/1 for electron,
n/2 for proton,
n/3 for neutron.
all set at the same time (n)

so. apparently orange pasta is in your own mind.
I've started to like you more. gotten comfortable with you. so i'm gonna ignore the orange pasta comment. btw. orange is my favorite color, after black.
my first name is paul, btw. nice to greet you. same to you kryptid, and mr cotter.
sh1t. my bad origin. nice to greet you too.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

consider how good cop & bad cop goes.
consider how governments are usually for the greater good of all people, over the good of one.
Consider how religion brings people together, but also separates people of different religions.
it's all about controlling information, and unity.
we are the suspect. except we are being prevented from the crime of destroying time.
because unity overthrows their own power. financially, to stop us from destroying time.
Tuskegee experiments. mk ultra. tusla race massacre. think about it.
we have been programmed to hate each other, through chasing our own success.
when we can succeed better with more people. because more people allows us to balance our strengths and weaknesses. 
most common people think matrix is more possible than perpetuality. because of science being off.
because we were led astray by powerful people, with protection in mind.
I'm not saying anyone is a villain in their actions. Quite the opposite.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

if the multiverse is 3d space like our universe, it is another layer on top of our own universe. it is 64x the size (diameter) allowing 64 different times in one space.
the border would not allow matter under light speed to exit. energy at light speed could exit. both sent through tesseracts could exit.
where the tetra-verse border reflects all types of energy and mass, back inside. through dark matter.
which is so black, it repels 100% of light.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

thats if ions are a result of mass to energy reconversions.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

Which men?
Those who buried it?
It's possible that some burial goods had to be "killed" so that they ascended to heaven with the deceased.
But really; who knows.

What we do know is that it's not actually magic because magic isn't real.

umm. christians have done "archeological studies" and campaigned wars for years. the papal declarations shared include separation of African lands to christian nations. 1500bc to 1600 bc. aproximately.

I asked you the time and you told me about orange pasta.

you asked me the time, i started linking how we thought about time. and then put two of them together to describe time as perpetual, with atoms being perpetual, that would make that theorem invalid.

No.
you just talked about orange pasta.
And it's not just me who says you do this, is it?

I tried already but he ignored my question.

Instead of answering the points already raised, you go off on  increasingly detached tangents.
Can you try to stay focussed?

I am trying. everything is connected. mathematics uses a sphere type web of interactions. our actions circumnavigate that sphere. Our use of whole number vs fractions or decimals sets our movement size, where mod use sets sphere size. whole numbers have their own size.  thats why we see some of jumps (the way one part throws itself wildly to come back in from the other direction) in things like this:
+1 Ripple Effect of Growth, Chaos Theory
https://www.desmos.com/calculator/b8pbnqdhnu

with everything connected, it has to pull from other areas to show relative connection.

mods are useful in science. essential actually. 3 parts to an atom, electron, proton, neutron. means mod 3 is for atomic. one additive to the mod per particle present.
the ghost interaction belongs to the neutron.
quantum should work best in mod 6. its actually -6 but, negatives don't count on mods. so its positive either way. like 2n+1 allows.

[KiltedWeirdo (OP)]

this might help you guys understand.
odds, evens, odds.
O, E, O.
odds=o
evens=e
we see collatz interactions here.
5x phase 1 and phase two add to create 10x.
2x doubles to create 4x.
odds always stack into their double.
evens always repeat to their double.

See i have to figure out what helps each of you understand the notion. its kind of a hard task.

[paul cotter]

Good grief!!