[Darryl See]

Here are some interesting articles about Ambrotose and...

...Cancer

A Friendly Skeptic Looks at Glyconutrients and Ambrotose®
by Dr. Ralph Moss
newbielink:http://chetday.com/glyconutrients.htm [nonactive]

...Down Syndrome

Ambrotose and Down Syndrome
by Dr. Len Leshin, MD, FAAP
newbielink:http://www.ds-health.com/ambr.htm [nonactive]

...AIDS

[Mannatech] 'Shonky' sugar pill created by religious group
by New Zealand Press Association
newbielink:http://www.religionnewsblog.com/archives/00002640.html [nonactive]


Here's an article about the company that markets Ambrotose (and reprograms normal human beings into Ambrotose Automatons):

Mannatech
by William T. Jarvis, Ph.D
newbielink:http://www.ncahf.org/articles/j-n/mannatech.html [nonactive]


Here's a good article about multilevel marketing in general:

NCAHF Position Paper on Multilevel Marketing of Health Products
by National Council Against Health Fraud
newbielink:http://ncahf.org/pp/mlm.html [nonactive]


And finally, here's a great article from the FDA with tips on how to avoid being a victim of untested, ineffective, and dangerous health products. This article is longer than the other ones, but a game I made out of it is to read the article once or twice, then re-read the thread, and everytime Kittycat says something warned about in the article, DRINK!

How to Spot Health Fraud
by Paula Kurtzweil
newbielink:http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/1999/699_fraud.html [nonactive]

[Tee]

I am intrigued by the discussion on this forum and particularly the interchange with Moore4U and Duane.   Moore4U, you indicated that you would research further Duane's contention that the "sugars" in Ambrotose are not fully absorbed.  That to me is the critical question in all of this. Naturally, if that's the case, while it still might be a helpful nutrient and yield varying levels of wellness improvement, the "extent" of the benefits based on the science of how the "8 essential sugars" improve cell-to-cell communication would appear to be overstated.  Please post any response or finding related to this absorption question posed by Duane on this forum if possible.

Thank you.

[Bean]

What an interesting topic. However it is looking more like a big argument than a discussion of recoveries, science etc.
If I am understanding this topic correctly, people seem to be stuck on whether the sugars are absorbed by the body or not or if there are one, two or more sugars in the supplement.
What difference does it make?  Who cares about being so anal retentive about it?
If people are benefitting, what does it matter? Do you need to have a vent to boast your knowledge and be abusive? Or how much you hate MLM?
It doesn't matter who is right or wrong or if you are more educated than the next guy. What is wrong here?  I am shocked at the combative attitudes and those who are neglecting getting in touch with the reality: Peoples lives are in the balance. What are you going to do about it argue or act?
Bean

[smilzandchuklz]

I was skeptical at first when a friend told me about Glyconutrients. But my son was later diagnosed with pnemonia, and he was very very ill. I got him a prescription for the pnemonia, and then called my friend to buy ambrotose, because I knew when she explained it to me that if it was the truth, then the product would work. But I didn't put him on it alone. If he was going suffer either no or adverse effects from ambrotose, I was bound and determined to experience it right along with him. My husband also began taking it. We all started on it the same day.

Unfortunately, in my experience, most MLM products are the best in their field, they are often patented, and cost alot for the amount that you get. But when I buy, I prefer to buy quality. Many MLMs sell quality. so unfortunately, some of the things I buy are bought through MLM. I have been recruited for many MLMs, and have had many bad experiences. My most recent bad experience was with Melaleuca. But the fact in my experience remains...the products sold through MLM are effective when used correctly. I am not fond of MLM. The only thing that convinced me to give Mannatech's MLM a chance is the book Wave 3 by Richard Poe. He is a reporter who is not involved in MLM, but wrote the book to give an unbiased opinion on MLM. I also read Wave 4, his 2nd book on the subject. This book opened my eyes on the reality of MLM, it's purpose, and its history. I found the book at the library by using the search word: network marketing.

I also thought before buying the product about researching what is in ambrotose, and concocting my own version. But I am a working mother of 3 with a husband, and I don't necessarly have the skills and scientific understanding of molecular structures to concoct my own version. I certainly don't have the time.

In my first internet search on Mannatech, I too found Dr. William Jarvis's document. But, on the same hand, one must look at the quality of the source. The website does not look professional to begin with, secondly, he's got spelling mistakes, thirdly, do a search on another reputable food supplement company: Juice Plus+. You'll see he's got bad stuff to say about them too and it is equally as unprofessional. Who knows? Maybe he's got more dirt on all of the companies! My point here is that if you are trying to convince people not to take the glyconutrients, you'll have to try harder. I for one look for a professional opinion presented in a calm factual manner. Things like SPAM and WALLET FULL OF MONEY used with or without emphasis, and sarcasm cause me to tune out that person's point of view. If you are intelligent, and know a factual reason why people should not either use glyconutrient products or get involved in the MLM side of Mannatech, and if you want to be sighted as a credible opinion to be taken seriously, then I would think that you would present your arguement in a respectful manner. People know the truth when they hear it. People will not pay attention to sarcasm as a credible opinion. But they might listen to someone who can present information that makes sense in a factual and respectful way.

There is bad news and history on every company out there. There is not one spotless company. But look beyond that--the real question here is does it work? And to most people who are suffering, they don't care how it gets digested, what they want to know is: "Is it a quality product that will actually be effective for me?" "If I put my money into this, will it work for me?". And not one person can prove that to them. No matter how much science or lack of is involved. People will believe what they want to believe. And if they are scared of MLM, then they will likely choose to miss out because of MLM's bad reputation.

As for my son and my husband and myself, my son has now been on Ambrotose on and off for 10 months now dependent upon when we can afford it, and when he's been off it for a while, he gets ill again. His frequency of sickness had definitely slowed. He hasn't had even the sniffles for four months now. When he does catch a cold, he is not listless like he used to get, and he still eats and plays. He never used to when he would fall ill. I took ambrotose alone for a while but never noticed any changes. After 3 months of taking it I added the Mannatech AntiOxidant, and three weeks later I felt noticeably different. I felt good. I had strength and more energy to do the things that I needed to do as a mother. I no longer needed to take naps. Mopping the floors no longer hurt my lower back. But it took 4 months of being on ambrotose and adding an antioxidant to get me to that point. Was it worth it? Yes it was. I never want to go back to being tired all the time. I will take this product for as long as I live. As for my husband, he said he felt more energy after the third day of taking just Ambrotose. I was skeptical of that since I felt nothing after 3 days. After a few months, his hoarking stopped. He used to hoark flem several times daily. after months of taking it, his allergies decreased. No one can convince you, all I can say is, just try it. Try it correctly, take it for at least six months in the dosages you need for your condition, and then judge it. The only way around skepticism is to give it a try for yourself to experience it first hand.

[smilzandchuklz]

Your body makes all of these duane, but at the cost of your body's energy. We are supposed to get all these saccarides in our diet, and when the body can't get them from food, the body makes them, but it takes the time and energy that is supposed to be utilized in fighting off sickness and disease.

quote:Originally posted by loweduane

Glyconutrients ARE NOT ABOUT SUGARS (SACCHARIDES). Yes, there are sugars on the surface of cells in the human body.  YOUR BODY MAKES ALL OF THESE.  

These products that these companies sell contain substances that DO NOT PROVIDE THESE SUGARS.  They cannot, because they are in forms that have been shown to NOT BE DIGESTED, and cannot be broken into the individual sugars.  If they are not broken down, your body cannot absorb them.  In fact, most of these ingredients have been shown to pass intact into the large intestine, where they are eaten by microorganisms which produce short-chain fatty acids.

Did MIT say glycomics will change the world?  Yes, they were talking about the science of how these sugars work in the body.  THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT GLYCONUTRIENTS!!  

Did several Nobel prizes get won for glycobiologists?  YES, BUT THEIR RESEARCH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE SUPPLEMENTS, OR ANY SUPPLEMENTS AT ALL!!!

If you are a diabetic and you want to know what your blood glucose levels are what do you do?  You check your blood glucose.  Haven't you ever wondered why in over 10 years, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in research to prove the benefits of their supplement, why this company HAS NEVER published a study showing even one sugar increased after taking their supplement?  BECAUSE NONE OF THESE POLYSACCHARIDES PROVIDE EVEN ONE SUGAR TO BE ABSORBED BY THE HUMAN BODY.

Do they work?  Possibly.  They are made of substances that could bind certain receptors in the intestine stimulating the immune system.  And they have been shown to increase the production of butyrate, proprionate in the colon, which have many beneficial properties.  But those who think absorbing individual sugars are the reason, are the ignorant public who have no understanding of human physiology, and have no idea how to understand the research on these substances, and so they just believe what they are told.

Of course, I have no financial stake in these products, so feel free to find some research to prove me wrong.  And don't list a website like glycoscience.org because I've been there and there is no research article on that site that contradicts anything I have said.  Give me a specific reference or quote even one reputable glycobiologist who thinks you can absorb any sugars from these substances.  (I know, I have talked to some of the best in the country about this, such as HH Freeze, Ph.D.).

And the new improved version of their glyconutrient contains a common seaweed extract, which is readily and cheaply available.  Yes there is research to show that this seaweed has polysaccharide, mostly composed of fucose, but there are no studies that I can find that show you can break this extract into the individual fucose molecules either.  Much of the research listed in the National Library of Medicine shows that the benefits of this ingredient is secondary to its dipeptide content rather than its saccharide content.  Dipeptides are two amino acids attached together.  But then you couldn't call it a glyconutrient if you thought the amino acids were the benefit.  

Is their new product cheaper?  Sure, but you have to take more than the original supplement, and you can buy all of the ingredients of this companies products separately for a fraction of the price. In fact, they don't make any of the ingredients at all, they buy them from other companies and put it together.  You can do the same thing from the same companies.  No reason to go broke if these are helping you.  Of course, your upline won't make any money that way.

[Kittycat]

Hello everyone,

I found this helpful with understanding what glyconutrients do:

MANNOSE
* Prevents bacterial, viral, parasitic and
   fungal infections
* Eases inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis
* Lupus patients are deficient in this
   saccharide
* Lowers blood sugar and triglyceride levels
   in diabetic patients

FUCOSE
* Influences brain development
* Improves brain’s ability to create long-  
   term memories
* Inhibits tumor growth
* Metabolism of this saccharide is abnormal
    in cystic fibrosis, diabetes, and cancer
   and during episodes of shingles, which is
   caused by the herpes virus
* Active against other herpes viruses,
   including herpes I and cytomegalovirus
* Guards against respiratory infections
* Inhibits allergic reactions

GALACTOSE
* Enhances wound healing
* Increases calcium absorption
* Triggers long-term memory formation

GLUCOSE
* Potent fast-energy source
* Enhances memory
* Stimulates calcium absorption
* Too much or too little can be problematic
* Elderly Alzheimer’s patients register much
   lower levels of this saccharide than those
   with organic brain disease from stroke or
   other vascular diseases
* Glucose metabolism disturbed in
   depression, manic-depression, anorexia
   and bulimia

N-ACETYLGALACTOSAMINE
* Heart disease patients have lower-than-
   normal levels of this saccharide
* Inhibits spread of tumor

N-ACETYLGLUCOSAMINE
* Immune modulator with antitumor
   properties and activity against HIV
* Vital to learning
* Glucosamine, a metabolic product of this
   saccharide
* Helps repair cartilage
* Decreases pain and inflammation
* Increases range of motion
* May also help repair mucosal-lining
   defensive barrier implicated in Crohn’s
   disease, ulcerative colitis and interstitial
   cystitis

N-ACETYLNEUROMINIC ACID
* Important for brain development and  
   learning
* Abundant in breast milk
* Repels bacteria, virus and other
   pathogens

XYLOSE
* Antibacterial and antifungal
* May help prevent cancer of the digestive
   tract



His grace is sufficient and His strength is made perfect in my weakness

[Kittycat]

Hi smilzandchuklz,

Welcome,

From what I read the body acutally has receptors (stomach pumps) for these sugars which would suggest that the body prefers the sugars from the diet.
Even though the body can synthesize these eight essential sugars, "a number of diseases involving abnormalities in the synthesis and degradation of glycoproteins have been recognized." (From Harper's Biochemistry textbook
ch. 47 p.534)
This sounds to me like it puts the body through unnecessary stress.
I am enjoying learning more about the science of glyconutrition, however the results are incredible! KC

His grace is sufficient and His strength is made perfect in my weakness

[KiwiBoy]

Hi everyone []

Response to Duane's Posts

Duane makes some very valid comments.  In particular the question over the availabilty of the 'necessary monossacharides' for glycoform construction from the polysaccharides provided in the Mannatech products.

Duane makes the assertion that "Humans cannot absorb the individual monossacharides from the "Mannatech" polysaccharides" being mainly beta-linked polysaccharides which according to 'current wisdom' are resistant to human enzymes in the mouth, stomach and small intestine.

Scientific studies can be dangerous sometimes.  'Current wisdom' has been proven wrong many times over time.  We can sometimes draw conclusions from a few studies and yet miss logical conclusions using some basic common sense.

Scientific arguments for monossacharide absorption from dietary polysaccharides are not conclusive.  There is no doubt that more studies in this area are required.

However, logic tells us that if plants make up polysaccharides from self-made monosaccharides (plants utilise sunlight energy to convert carbon dioxide and water into monosaccharides), that there is a good probability that free monosaccharides exist in fresh, living plant tissue.  Sure we know we already readily get glucose and fructose from plants.  Why discount the availabilty of some quantity of the other necessary monosaccharides.

After all, how do we get all the monosaccharides used in our biological processes?  Purely from conversions of one monossacharide (glucose or fructose) to another via many energy intensive enzymic pathways?  Was the 'Designer' of the human body that 'incompetent' that He ignored the much easier pathway of receiving and absorbing 'free' monosaccharides from our food to directly form the necessary glycoforms or glycoconjugates?

Is not the body designed to expect the necessary monosaccharides in the diet?  Dietary mannose and galactose has already been shown to be directly incorporated into glycoproteins.
Martin A;Rambal C;Berger V;. Availability of specific sugars for glycoconjugate biosynthesis: a need for further investigations in man. Biochimie. 1998; 80: 75-86
Berger V;Perier S;Pachiaudi C;. Dietary specific sugars for serum protein enzymatic glycosylation in man. Metabolism. 1998 Dec; 47: 1499-1503
Alton G;Hasilik M;Niehues R;. Direct utilization of mannose for mammalian glycoprotein biosynthesis. Glycobiology. 1998 Mar; 8: 285-295

Why are there specific sugar transporters for many of the 'necessary sugars?  Is not the body expecting the monosaccharide sugars in the diet?  Doesn't it make sense that the body is capable of separating adequate amounts of the 'necessary' monosaccharides from the plant polysaccharides?

Scientific studies have shown that non-starch polysaccharides are digested before they reach the colon.
Holloway WD;Tasman-Jones C;Lee SP;. Digestion of certain fractions of dietary fiber in humans. Am J Clin Nutr. 1978 Jun; 31: 927-930

Scientific studies have shown other 'indigestible' polysaccharides are apparantly partially digested in the stomach or the small intestine.
One human study showed that the majority of one type of these Polysaccharides, called hemicelluloses, are digested in the small intestine.
Sandberg AS;Andersson H;Hallgren B;Hasselblad K;Isaksson B;Hulten L;. Experimental model for in vivo determination of dietary fibre and its effect on the absorption of nutrients in the small intestine. Br J Nutr. 1981 Mar; 45: 283-294.
Holloway WD;Tasman-Jones C;Bell E;. The hemicellulose component of dietary fiber. Am J Clin Nutr. 1980 Feb; 33: 260-263

Other studies suggest breakdown of Polysaccharides into monosaccharides in the colon.
Whistler RL;BeMiller JN;. Carbohydrate Chemistry for Food Scientists. St. Paul, Minn.: American Association of Cereal Chemists, Inc.; 1999

Other studies show free monosaccharides remain even after fermentation of gum plant fibres (including polysaccharides) by bacteria.
Bourquin LD;Titgemeyer EC;Fahey GC;. Vegetable fiber fermentation by human fecal bacteria: cell wall polysaccharide disappearance and short-chain fatty acid production during in vitro fermentation and water-holding capacity of unfermented residues. Journal of Nutrition. 1993 May; 123: 860-869.

The fact is that there is very little quantitative absorption data available for most high molecular weight complexes from food, and more understanding of the availabilty of monosaccahrides from complex plant polysaccharides needs to be acquired.

The fact is that the Mannatech glyconutritional supplements do provide in a large number of users, wonderful benefits.  Not many will dispute this.

Do the benefits come primarily from polysaccharide fibre consumption with all the known benefits including helping the immune system?

Or via the monosaccharide sugar pathway where much of the monosaccharides supply are 'somehow' from breakdown of beta-linked polysaccharides and free monosaccharides in plants?

The overwhelming number of amazing testimonies (covering virtually every disease you can think of) from Mannatech consumers (including many I know personally) suggest to me that the benefits are due to much more than polysaccharide fibre factors.

There is enough evidence to support the Mannatech claim that their products contain saccharides that are necessary for optimal cell-to-cell communication.  Albeit the evidence may be a combination of Scientific, reasonable scientific postulation, and circumstantial.

Can any Scientist conclusively prove the contrary?  Scientific opinions do not always agree, so who is ultimately 'right'?.

Marketing and purchasing the Mannatech products are optional.  Don't knock the right of people to earn a living 'selling the products'. After all, we do live in a commercial world with real bills, real debts, and real health challenges.  Don't knock the right for a company to set whatever margins they wish to run a viable and profitable business.  In fact I understand Mannatech has a charitable arm in Mannarelief that has donated millions of dollars of free glyconutritional products to 3rd world orphanages with some wonderful results.  

Why not expend energy challenging the multi-billion dollar Alipathic industry which in general follows a paradigm that mask symptoms and interferes with normal human physiology, using drugs with known toxicity and producing side-effects - some very serious that over time can result in death. After saying that traditional medicine does have a very important role in crisis care.

Hope these comments help get a balance in the debate.

Finally study carefully the paper:
Is Saccharide Supplementation Necessary, Jane Ramberg and Bill McAnalley, Glycoscience & Nutrition, May 2002, Vol3, No.3

A great paper which expands on the above.










My Opinions will not prevent, treat,cure or mitigate any disease.

[moore4u]

Wow! I have not been back here for a bit. Going back to work has put a crimp in my time!
I have to agree wholeheartedly with your post smilz. I for one do NOT have the time to spend on tearing this product apart and having explanation for why it does or does not work. FOR ME...IT WORKS and that is absolutely ALL the proof I need.  All that I can tell you is that 2 months ago I was a SHADOW of the person I am today.
I was in a bad state - extreme chronic fatigue, dizzy spells, brain fog and intense joint pain - from Lyme Disease and several co-infections.  I KNOW beyond doubt that it is the glyconutrients that have made the difference in my condition. How do I know that?  Because after taking them for 3 days I had profound improvement and I continued to improve every day. Then I ran out of product. I VERY quickly began to sink fast and all of my old symptoms began to return. I ordered more product - Ambrotose, AO (antioxidant), Mannacleanse, Catalyst (the multi-vit) and Plus (for hormone balance).
Two days after starting back, I began to build back up and I am feeling like a NEW person, a person who has her life back. I cry when I think about how I felt two and three months ago. There really were days when I felt so defeated and hopeless and I could understand why people dealing with the same disease I was dealing with were committing suicide. I was very depressed. My depression has lifted and my joint pain is SO gone - I feel 25 years younger and that is no lie!
People can sling criticism, skepticism, doubt - whatever - all they want, but I agree with smilz - don't knock it until you have tried it. I am hearing far too many compelling testimonies from people whose lives have LITERALLY been restored, hope restored - to not believe there is something here in these Mannatech products that are a life giving force. No...the company is not perfect - but I sincerely believe there is far more good created by this company, Mannatech...than bad. I agree - go pick on somebody else!

[smilzandchuklz]

[]

I am so happy to finally hear some good input on the glyconutrients. I know it worked for me, and no amount of 'scientific' proof on paper will convince me that it doesn't. I have had a strip torn off me for approaching one person who has a baby with CF, that person yelling at me that Mannatech's products are "Nothin but a bunch of sugar pills." Unfortunately, some people are just not open to anything that has suffered from bad publicity.

I especially appreciate Kiwi Boy's response, I think you have some extremely valid and well said points.

KittyKat, I hope I meet you someday. It's nice to meet others who know.

[mannamom]

wow have things heated up a bit here!

to all that are considering glyconutrients, you have nothing to lose! Our son was dying! My husband was a mess and I can say that all is well in my house! There are many people that are right on the money...this is a good company...Mannatech. For those of you that have nothing good to say....remember what your mother said. Trying to help others is a good thing. Trying to bash a company that is helping countless people for personal reasons ( I am assuming that some here failed at MLM) is a crime! If your Ford was no good, don't buy another....don't try to keep everyone else away!

Our health care is a JOKE in this country. I can say that. My son is the perfect example of being chronically ill and in the system for 13 years. He came out a mess and dying. He is now FINE. I don't hate docs...without them my son would not be here. But the system has failed him.

We prayed for an answer, as many people do every day. We were just able to see it when an angel showed it to us!

Anyone out there that is POSITIVE is welcome to contact me....and I welcome those of you that are new to this site...hang in there!

Rene
emmerich2314@aol.com

[nunofit747]

The original reserach can be accessed through Mannatech at newbielink:http://www.mannatech.com [nonactive]  or newbielink:http://www.quantumleapnow.com [nonactive]
The second address has excellent videos with the original research. At present it seems results are more from testamonials, but the theory discussed would point to very basic healing potential allowing the body to heal itself from the alphabet contained in Glycoproteins derived from the Aloe verae plant know from ancient times as a healing plant. It hasa been associated with amazing results such as Down's Syndrome, blindness, and Alzheimer's improvements so well worth watching, though I'd like more controlled studies from testamonaials, particularly how many helped from how many tried?

Have a great day!United in the search for healing,
Sincerely, Sylvia

[moore4u]

I too am pleased to be hearing some more positive remarks regarding glyconutrients. I just heard tonight that Business Week just posted the top 100 companies in America in their June issue and Mannatech is #6! They must be doing SOMETHING right. I would like to post my testimony (that was in the form of an email to some friends and family) regarding glyconutrients here for those interested:

Hello to all,
There are some people I am sending this email too that I have not written to in a very long time. Basically this is a summary of what I have gone through for the past 6 months and where I am today!  It has been a WILD ride, but I can honestly say I believe God took me through this for a reason...and I believe the reason was so that I could help other people who may have a similar health issue, but even in a much broader realm. I think you will understand what I am saying, if you will read this email through to the end.

Well, folks, here is my story in a nutshell:
 
In February of 2005 I realized there was something seriously wrong with the way I had been feeling lately. I was so tired all of the time and had an achy, flu-like feeling, but I kept pushing myself. We were very busy at work and I did not have the time to be sick! I had been seeing a doctor of internal medicine for my symptoms. He diagnosed me with depression and obesity. He prescribed Prozac and something to help me lose weight. I just kept telling myself that I was feeling so low and so lousy because I was FAT.
 
As I look back over my medical records covering the past two years of my life, I can now see the many symptoms that added up to Lyme. But I had no idea what Lyme was, what actually caused it or what the symptoms were, until I became so sick. Skin lesions also began appearing on my left thigh and right shoulder that looked like giant infected mosquito bites. They would not heal. I showed them to the doctor. He took 2 punch biopsies. The tests went to 3 different labs. None were able to identify what it was. I was simply told I had an "unidentifiable bacterial skin infection." I was put on antibiotics, topical steroids, etc.
 
Nothing cleared it up and I began to feel worse and worse. I had extreme dizziness (vertigo) and had to quit driving. My thinking became very cloudy. I felt as if I were walking around with my head stuck in a big cotton ball all of the time. My joints ached severely and I had muscle spasms in my face and limbs. I also had awful floaters in my field of vision. It was like trying to look though a foggy windshield most of the time.
 
I itched constantly and felt as if I had "no- see-ums" crawling all over my skin. It was torture. I was extremely fatigued most of the time. Most days I did not feel like leaving the house and the slightest little thing I did - like taking a shower - was a major accomplishment.  Most of my time was spent in front of the computer researching what was wrong with me.
 
One doctor put me on antibiotics and I began to take everything under the sun that other people suffering the same symptoms recommended.
 
I was eventually tested for Lyme. I learned I had 3 coinfections of Lyme. I missed two months of work. (Here is a listing of my protocol that began back in February)
 
February - 2005
Cephalexin 500 mg - 2 caps 2 x day
United Medical (UM)Physicians Rx Daily Multiple Support 3x day
UM Liver Support 2 caps 2 x day
UM CoEnzyme Q-10 1 cap 3 x day
Buffered C - Crystals
Salt Tablets and Sea Salt on foods
Natural Flax Seed Oil - 1000 mg 1 cap 3 X day
Olive Leaf Extract - 1 cap 3 X day
Para Gone I and Para Gone II 15 day regimen/5 day rest/repeated 2 x
Omega 3 Fish oil -1000 mg 3 x daily
Evening Primrose Oil - 500 mg 1 cap 2 x day
Was also drinking Peppermint Tea
Also added ground Flaxseed to cereal for breakfast and salads.
Drank LOTS of filtered water and at one point began boiling my own tap water.
 
March 2005
Continued with above protocol and added:
Hulda Clark's "ParaZapper" and began zapping four days a week at recommended level.
Zithromax - 500 mg 1 tablet a day for 60 days
 
April/May 2005
Continued with all of the above protocol (but dropped the "zapping" down to once a week and also added:
Minocycline 100 mg 1 tablet 2 x daily for 3 weeks, but on the third week added:
Flagyl - 500 mg 1 tablet 2 x daily
On 4th week RESTED - NO MEDS, per the doctors instruction, but continued with nutriceuticals.
 
June 2005
Switched from Zithromax to SEPTRA - (SMZ-TWP DS 800-160) 1 tab 2 x day
Also adding back the Minocycline.
 
(I forgot to mention that I took a whole clove of garlic that I chopped up every day.)
 
I do believe the 4 different antibiotics began to attack the bacteria, but nothing was making me feel any better...
 
June/July 2005
At this point I was feeling AWFUL. I had really not experienced any great degree of improvement. I had returned to work and was STRUGGLING to get through each day.
My chronic fatigue was overwhelming and my joint pain excruciating to the point where it was so painful just to walk from my car into the building. I still had brain fog and dizziness.
At the end of that week I had decided I would not return to work the next week unless I felt better. I would just have to figure out how to do without a paycheck since my disability insurance claim was denied.

It was at that point that a friend at work told me about something called glyconutrients. Her husband had learned of this major medical breakthrough and had begun taking them for his throat cancer.
He had learned of this from his sister-in-law who had been taking them for her terminal Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, (who has JUST been declared CANCER-FREE, I might add.)
 
This friend gave me some information about the discovery of glyconutrients and how and why these nutrients feed the cells of your body, allowing them to communiciate properly, which induces your body to HEAL ITSELF...of all number of diseases. Our immune systems are ALL OUT OF WHACK because we DON'T get what our bodies need from our modern day diets, even people who TRY to eat healthy.  Even by adding vitamins, minerals, herbs, etc., our bodies are left void of what our cells need to be in good health.
 
This technology was JUST discovered in 1996 and many doctors are just now studying glycobiology in their current textbooks. Glycobiology IS being taught in medical schools now, but doctors who graduated before 2002 more than likely don't have a clue what this is all about...UNLESS one of their patients tells them about this. Many doctors are being introduced to this by patients who have tried it along with their medicines and are seeing PROFOUND results. Many patients are then told by their doctors that they no longer need insulin, cholesterol medications, chemo, etc., etc., etc. The list goes on and on!
 
After reading and researching all of this...I was certainly willing to give them a try - I mean...
 
WHAT did I have to lose?  
 
I called my friend and said, "Audrey, if this stuff does what it says it does... I WANT SOME NOW!  She had her brother-in-law bring a bottle of the Ambrotose and AO (antioxidants) to my house that very night. I started taking the stuff sitting right there at my dining room table.

At that point I continued with my antibiotics, but discontinued all of the other stuff mentioned above and replaced them with the following from Mannatech:

I took a triple dose of Ambrotose - 3 X day
Also added:
AO (Antioxidant) 1 capsule 2 x day
Catalyst (Multi-Vitamin/Mineral) 2 tabs 2 X day
Mannacleanse (with Probiotics) - 2 tabs 2 X day
Plus (Endocrine system/hormonal support) 1 tab 2 x day

By the end of the 3rd day on the above I felt as if I had emerged from a dark cocoon. It was PROFOUND. Even my husband noticed a difference in my appearance and my behavior. I felt almost normal again and he said I was even "acting normal", like my "old self".
I was SO encouraged.

Since starting on glyconutrients about six weeks ago, I have felt a such a major difference!
The dizziness lifted, the brain fog - gone, the itching - gone, my sores - healed, the fatigue - GONE!
My energy level has increased daily. After about four weeks I ran out of product and I felt myself slipping back into the same awful feelings again - the fatigue - the joint pain - the vertigo, etc. I quickly reordered and once I got back on the stuff, I immediately began to feel better again and have continued to feel stronger and stronger each day.
 
As I was walking across the parking lot this past Thursday morning at work, I suddenly realized that I had NO MORE JOINT PAIN. I felt agile and light. I felt as if I could go play a game of tennis, or run on the beach, walk my big, strong dog! THAT was significant.  All of my sores have cleared up and I have no new ones as well.  People at work are noticing the difference and commenting on  it. They say I have the “sparkle back in my eyes!”
My youngest daughter said the other night, “Wow, Mom - you look ten years younger than you did a month ago.”  I told her, “Heidi, I FEEL ten years younger than I did a month ago…
 
a month ago I felt like I wanted to die!”
 
 I thank God for the friend who shared this technology with me  I am SO GLAD I listened and was willing to give the glyconutrients a try.  
 
Now I want to share it with every person I come in contact with in the hope these products will make the same difference in their lives. It is my sincere prayer people will recognize the importance of just giving this a try.

There are many testimonies across the country of other people who have had similar experience with the success of the glyconutrients and many with much more profound results. There are compelling death-bed situations that have been reversed and people who had NO HOPE before, that are regaining their health and their lives. THAT is very inspiring and promising.
 
If you or a loved one is dealing with a health issue(s), I beg of you to take a look at glyconutrients. If you want to know where to get the products, email me and I will be happy to share that with you. (MsVictorE@aol.com)
 
This is a good site to learn more too: http://glycoinformation.com/sugars.html [nofollow]

[moore4u]

I had to add the results following my visit to the Lyme Specialist today:

I felt AS HIGH AS A KITE following my visit to the Jemsek Lyme Clinic today!!!!!!

This was to check my symptoms following all of the antibiotics I was prescribed. As most of you know, I took all of the antibiotics, but added the glyconutrients approximately 6 weeks ago.

Upon arrriving, the nurse took my blood pressure. When I was sick - at the highest my blood pressure was 160/98. Dr. Albright prescribed Norvasc. Even with that, the lowest it came down to was around 142/90.

When I started the glyconutrients I stopped the Norvasc. I wanted to see what kind of difference it would make because I had read that other people with high blood pressure had lowered it with the glycos!

My blood pressure today was 118/80! WOW! When Dr. Roeske came in and looked at that she commented on how much my blood pressure had improved. She asked if I was still taking the Norvasc and I told her no. I told her of my introduction and application of the glyconutrients. I asked if she was familiar with them and she said, "Not really."
I gave her a brochure regarding what Mannatech does for the children with HIV/Aids in the orphanages over in Africa. (MannaRelief) and the Manna Relief Hope program for sick children here in this country. She asked if she could keep them. I also gave her a CD - one by three top doctors regarding their use of glyconutrients on their patients.

Then she asked me how my sores were doing. I said - "Healed." She asked to see them, so I showed her. Her response was "OH MY GOD! That is SIGNIFICANT!" She said, "With other patients we are seeing with the same symptoms and same type of lesions - they are not responding like this - this is incredible! Then she asked about my "brain fog". I said, "Gone!" Then I told her about the joint pain being gone too, as well as my experience with no more hot and cold sensitivity from my teeth. (An added bonus I was not expecting from the use of the glycos!)

Dr. Roeske then said she did not want to put me on any more antibiotics - that she wanted to take blood work today - for me to keep doing whatever it was that I was doing with the glycos and she wants to recheck me again in 2 months to see where we are at that point and do labs again.

She also said she could see a marked physical difference in how I looked today. She said I seemed to have an energy and vibrance that just wasn't there two months ago. I said, "I know - and that is how I feel inside!" (PRAISE GOD!)

I was ecstatic when I left her office. I absolutely believe it is the glycos that are working on a cellular level to heal my immune system. Yes, I believe I needed the antibiotics - and who knows - I might need them again down the road, but we will just have to wait and see.

ON THE DOWNSIDE - When I got home today I had a letter regarding the appeal of my disability claim for the time I missed from work (10 weeks). It was DENIED again. What they stated in their letter of denial has statements that are NOT TRUE and although they said "CASE CLOSED" I still intend to write a letter refuting THEIR claims. The SYSTEM makes me SO MAD. I know this is NOT going to sound very nice (and I apologize upfront for this...)but I wish each person who sat in judgement of my claim would contract what I had for just ONE WEEK and then make a decision on whether or not I was capable of performing my job during that time. To say I am upset about that is an understatement. It is very unfair. Only God and my family and a few close friends know what I went through for those months I was so sick...and I guess that is all that matters, but I think about all the other people out there who are going through what I have been through and the ones that are yet to become sick - so to be denied coverage during a time when you really need it - is an outrage - very unfair!
The letter said I could file a civil claim based on the ERISA act and I may just consider doing that! If every one who has a similar experience just sits back in complacency and lets it "roll on by" then nothing will ever change. I may just keep fighting! (Now that I am feeling so much stronger and better!)

Well, I would like to offer the invitation again regarding looking into the glyconutrients. You only have renewed and better health to gain - nothing to lose. If interested in more info, just email me back. (MsVictorE@aol.com)

[Kittycat]

Hi Moore, Thanks for sharing your story. This is wonderful news.
Isn't it incredible what the body can do when we give it these food nutrients? I have experienced great health since I have been consuming these nutrients and I have seen some unbelievable recoveries. It is the body that heals and as we understand what stem cells do, it make so much sense they cause areas of our bodies to regenerate.  KC

His grace is sufficient and His strength is made perfect in my weakness

[Tee]

I am curious to hear any testimony from anyone who has used glyconutrients that has NOT experienced any significant change - above and beyond what would be expected from eating a healthier diet.  That is still the question for me, is whether or not simply changing our diet to eat "properly" will achieve similar effects as the Ambrotose.  I understand the contention that even if we eat as healthy as possible, the foods available to us can only provide so much because they lack 6 of the 8 essential "sugars."  But that is still a grey area as to the effectiveness of those extra 6 sugars versus eating healthy and supplementing our diets with vitamins etc. that are available at a much cheaper cost.  I have no particular slant here as I'm just trying to obtain as much feedback on both sides of this topic to make an informed evaluation for myself.  I appreciate the input.

[moore4u]

All I can tell you Tee is that I tried all of what you suggest, with no results. All I can tell you is that the Ambrotose did something that nothing else has been able to do. There are also far too many additional instances of amazing results.
If you hear from people who say it did not work for them, that is entirely possible. But you also have to weigh all the facts...How long did they take it and what did they take and how much did they take.
Here is an example.
I know of a woman at the church where I work who has MS. I had read that the glycos were helping many people with MS. I called her and told her about them and she said - "Oh I already tried that stuff and it didn't work at all for me."  I said, "What were you taking, Barbara?"  She said, "Oh I was taking something called AO or something." I asked if it was a powder or capsule and if it might have been called Ambrotose.  She said, "No it was a capsule and it said AO on the bottle."
Well, that was the antioxidant and not the glyconutrients.  Then I asked her how long she took it. She said, "Oh I took it for a couple of weeks and didn't notice a difference so I quit taking it."
See, she did NOT give it ample time to do what it needs to do. Experts say you should take the glyconutrients a MINIMUM of 4 months and if you are not willing to do that - then don't even start taking them.
Do you see what I mean? This woman brings a negative connotation to the glycos when she really didn't give them a fair chance to work. And she may be preventing someone who could REALLY benefit from taking them by her negative testimony. Just make sure you get all the facts.
Keep searching for the truth Tee, and I pray you find it!

[flagpol]

Tee,

Maybe not what you are looking for, but I am one person who was not helped immediately by glyconutrients.  I began taking the Mannatech "Optimal Health System" in August of 2003.  I did not have any serious health issues (except for being about 25 pounds overweight)  I did have asthma (taking slo-bid & inhalers) since I was 13 and allergies and hay fever linked to springtime blooming plants.  For me, it was not until April of 2004 that I noticed anything at all.  My asthma is gone.  I am no longer on slo-bid adn I haven't had a shot of an inhaler since Oct. of 2004.  I'm still overweight, but I have lost 17 pounds in the last 3 months by exercising.  My kids are on the products and they still get colds & stuff, but the length of the cold has shortened from 10-12 days to 2-4 days.  I do share with folks when I can, and I have made more from Mannatech than I have paid them for products, so it's a good thing.  It works, albeit for me it was slower than most folks I hear about.  I was a sceptic at first, like most folks, but it is easy to be a sceptic - you don't have to believe anything.

[flagpol]

Watch for the US patent on Ambrotose in a few weeks.

[loweduane]

I continue to be glad your friend is getting better.  I am amazed that you continue to claim you know how it is working when there is no evidence or research to show anything of the sort, but I realize that you don't care about that, so I will drop it.  

I thought others who find this forum might be interested in the following post found at the curezone.com discussion on glyconutrients.  You wanted someone with experience with  glyconutrients other than Ambrotose and here it is.  I hope you enjoy his information as much as I did.  Here it is:
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"After six months of making my own glyconutrients, based on Mannatech’s formula as contained in its patent application, I thought that it was time to report some of my findings. First, in an effort to be objective as I can, let me start with a mistake that I made when starting to mix my own formula. Before I get to that part, however, let me explain what products I used to produce my own formula. When I first began the process, I used the following ingredients: Arabinogalactan (larch tree extract), Manapol Immune Enhancing Powder, Gum Ghatti, Gum Tragacanth, Glucosamine HCL (vegetarian) and Corn Starch/Rice Starch (I began with corn starch then switched over to rice starch). The products were all stabilized and from reputable manufacturers. Indeed, two of the manufactures, Carrington Labs (Manapol) and AEP Colloids (Gums Tragacanth and Ghatti), are the same companies mentioned in Mannatech’s patent application. One manufacture, Larex (Arabinogalactan), is the only producer of larch tree extract so there is little doubt that Mannatech’s arabinogalactan is supplied by this manufacturer. The other two manufacturers, Cargill (Glucosamine HCL) and A&B Ingredients (Rice Starch) are probably used by Mannatech as well although I have no formal evidence of this (Cargill appears to be the only manufacturer of vegetarian based glucosamine HCL and A&B ingredients was the only source of rice starch that I could find on the internet). As I said earlier, however, all of these companies are reputable companies that have a history of making excellent products."

"Now, onto my mistake. Ambrotose is sold in 100 gram containers. According to Mannatech’s patent application, the glyco-1 formula consists of 48% arabinogalactan, 12% rice starch, 10% manapol extract, 10% glucosamine HCL, 10% Gum Tragacanth and 10% Gum Ghatti. Thus, a 100 gram container would require 48 grams of arabinogalactan, etc. Carrington Labs makes several products incorporating manapol, which is the inner leaf gel extract of the aloe vera plant. It is a freeze dried, stabalized, powder. Manapol immune enhancing powder is one of these products and comes in capsule form or bulk powder (64g). The bulk powder costs approximately 20-30 dollars per container but only contains approximately 5 grams of pure manapol extract with the remaining powder consisting of maltrose dextrin ( a filler). The cost for the pure manapol extract without the filler is $1600 per kilogram (2.2 pounds). Apparently, Mannatech incorporates 10 grams of pure manapol extract in Ambrotose and not the Manapol immune enhancing powder. There is no evidence from the label that Mannatech cuts the manapol extract in any way. When preparing my own glyconutrients, I was using 10 grams of the enhancing powder. Thus, my formula lacked tremendously in the manapol department. In fact, it would take two full containers of the enhancing powder to acquire the level of manapol contained in a single container of Ambrotose."

"Having admitted my mistake, let me shed some thoughts on how I, and my family, have faired taking my own formula without the full amount of the manapol. Some background about myself is probably in order before I proceed. I suffer from an autoimmune disease, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, or, in other words, hypothyroidism. I was diagnosed about four years ago. I took the ambrotose for approximately a year before I started making it myself. During the time that I took the ambrotose, my health improved significantly. I wasn’t getting sick as much, and in fact I haven’t been sick with even a cold (knock wood) in more than a year. My homocysteine level, a marker for heart disease, was at an astronomical 47 even with taking medication. After three months on the ambrotose it became completely normal (I know this because I stopped taking the medication and solely relied on the ambrotose). My blood work, which was all over the map generally, all became normalized within six month after taking ambrotose. I felt better, had more energy, and my thyroid medication was reduced quite significantly as a result of taking ambrotose. How has my health faired over the last six months when I changed over to my homemade version? Absolutely no change! I still feel great, my recent blood work all came back normal, and my homocysteine level is still normal! What does this suggest to me? Well, for one thing, I suspect that the arabinogalactan plays a big part in the formula and maybe the manapol doesn’t play as much of a role. I can’t be sure, but all I know is that it is working and I am happy. By the way, I now have my whole family taking it (because of the lower cost) and they are very healthy as well. My kids (quite young) haven’t been sick at all for the past six months."

"A couple of other thoughts about the formula. First, I think I understand why Mannatech chooses rice starch as compared to corn starch which is referenced in the patent application as an alternative. The rice starch appears to help in the mixing process. It appears to me that the other powders mix better with the rice starch than with the corn starch. It’s not that it makes that much difference since both are only fillers, but it appears to mix better with the rice starch. Second, I will probably start to double or even triple the amount of manapol immune enhancing formula to get the pure manapol powder rate higher. Perhaps it is not necessary, but for the extra five to ten dollars a container, it's probably worth it. Third, if you really wanted to use the same amount of manapol that Mannatech uses, you could purchase the raw material (makes about 100 containers) but it would be a big up-front expense. I estimate that the cost per container for the combination of ingredients with the full amount of the manapol would run about thirty dollars to thirty-five dollars a container rather than twenty to twenty-five dollars a container. Still a lot cheaper than a hundred to a hundred and twenty-five dollars a container."