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quote:Originally posted by chrisAntioxidant supplementation is probably very context-specific. In other words, the antioxidants present in 'green leafy vegetables' work well when they are administered as 'green leafy vegetables', but not when popped as a pill. Recent publications show that vitamin supplementation is a waste of money. More worryingly, one past study looking at the anti-cancer effects of anti-oxidants involved administering vitamin A (an anti-oxidant) to smokers and following up their rates of lung cancer. The study had to be stopped prematurely owing to a huge excess of lung cancers amongst the vitamin A treatment arm of the study.The best advice is probably therefore to eat a helathy balanced diet that already contains all of the things jammed into supplement pills - you'll certainly save money, and you could save your life.
quote:Originally posted by glycomom our bodies were made to utlize FOOD not synthetics. Our entire family uses products from a good company and we have seen amazing recovery in several areas. I am a "medical mom" and have done my homework. Glyconutrients DO WORK!
quote:Originally posted by psophistI have heard about a few people where the glyconutrients have actually improved their health condition. I found a report that might shed some light and some thought to what to avoid.....[?]Plant-induced seizures: reappearance of an old problem.Burkhard PR, Burkhardt K, Haenggeli CA, Landis T.Department of Neurology, University Hospital, CH-1211 Geneva 14, Switzerland, Pierre.Burkhard@hcuge.chSeveral plant-derived essential oils have been known for over a century to have epileptogenic properties. We report three healthy patients, two adults and one child, who suffered from an isolated generalized tonic-clonic seizure and a generalized tonic status, respectively, related to the absorption of several of these oils for therapeutic purposes. No other cause of epilepsy was found, and outcome was good in the two adult cases, but the course has been less favorable in the child. A survey of the literature shows essential oils of 11 plants to be powerful convulsants (eucalyptus, fennel, hyssop, pennyroyal, rosemary, sage, savin, tansy, thuja, turpentine, and wormwood) due to their content of highly reactive monoterpene ketones, such as camphor, pinocamphone, thujone, cineole, pulegone, sabinylacetate, and fenchone. Our three cases strongly support the concept of plant-related toxic seizure. Nowadays the wide use of these compounds in certain unconventional medicines makes this severe complication again possible.[?]Here is another report I found....[?]Treatment of four siblings with progressive myoclonus epilepsy of the Unverricht-Lundborg type with N-acetylcysteine[?]Of what I have learned in my research, glyconutrients are not dis-ease specific. These essential sugars are 'life to a cell' and help a dis-eased cell recover from its trauma and assist a healthy cell in its normal 'workday' function. There are several books out [ http://store.dexlen.com#s ] about glyconutrients. You can read the first chapter of one of the books "Sugars that Heal" at http://glyco.dexlen.us/SugarsThatHeal.htm
quote:Originally posted by loweduaneGlyconutrients ARE NOT ABOUT SUGARS (SACCHARIDES). Yes, there are sugars on the surface of cells in the human body. YOUR BODY MAKES ALL OF THESE. These products that these companies sell contain substances that DO NOT PROVIDE THESE SUGARS. They cannot, because they are in forms that have been shown to NOT BE DIGESTED, and cannot be broken into the individual sugars. If they are not broken down, your body cannot absorb them. In fact, most of these ingredients have been shown to pass intact into the large intestine, where they are eaten by microorganisms which produce short-chain fatty acids.Did MIT say glycomics will change the world? Yes, they were talking about the science of how these sugars work in the body. THEY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT GLYCONUTRIENTS!! Did several Nobel prizes get won for glycobiologists? YES, BUT THEIR RESEARCH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE SUPPLEMENTS, OR ANY SUPPLEMENTS AT ALL!!!If you are a diabetic and you want to know what your blood glucose levels are what do you do? You check your blood glucose. Haven't you ever wondered why in over 10 years, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in research to prove the benefits of their supplement, why this company HAS NEVER published a study showing even one sugar increased after taking their supplement? BECAUSE NONE OF THESE POLYSACCHARIDES PROVIDE EVEN ONE SUGAR TO BE ABSORBED BY THE HUMAN BODY.Do they work? Possibly. They are made of substances that could bind certain receptors in the intestine stimulating the immune system. And they have been shown to increase the production of butyrate, proprionate in the colon, which have many beneficial properties. But those who think absorbing individual sugars are the reason, are the ignorant public who have no understanding of human physiology, and have no idea how to understand the research on these substances, and so they just believe what they are told.Of course, I have no financial stake in these products, so feel free to find some research to prove me wrong. And don't list a website like glycoscience.org because I've been there and there is no research article on that site that contradicts anything I have said. Give me a specific reference or quote even one reputable glycobiologist who thinks you can absorb any sugars from these substances. (I know, I have talked to some of the best in the country about this, such as HH Freeze, Ph.D.).And the new improved version of their glyconutrient contains a common seaweed extract, which is readily and cheaply available. Yes there is research to show that this seaweed has polysaccharide, mostly composed of fucose, but there are no studies that I can find that show you can break this extract into the individual fucose molecules either. Much of the research listed in the National Library of Medicine shows that the benefits of this ingredient is secondary to its dipeptide content rather than its saccharide content. Dipeptides are two amino acids attached together. But then you couldn't call it a glyconutrient if you thought the amino acids were the benefit. Is their new product cheaper? Sure, but you have to take more than the original supplement, and [?]you can buy all of the ingredients of this companies products separately for a fraction of the price. In fact, they don't make any of the ingredients at all, they buy them from other companies and put it together. You can do the same thing from the same companies. No reason to go broke if these are helping you. Of course, your upline won't make any money that way.[?]
quote:Originally posted by chrisAntioxidant supplementation is probably very context-specific. In other words, [?]the antioxidants present in 'green leafy vegetables' work well when they are administered as 'green leafy vegetables', but not when popped as a pill. [?]Recent publications show that vitamin supplementation is a waste of money. More worryingly, one past study looking at the anti-cancer effects of anti-oxidants involved administering vitamin A (an anti-oxidant) to smokers and following up their rates of lung cancer. The study had to be stopped prematurely owing to a huge excess of lung cancers amongst the vitamin A treatment arm of the study.[?]The best advice is probably therefore to eat a helathy balanced diet that already contains all of the things jammed into supplement pills - you'll certainly save money, and you could save your life.[?]Chris"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception" - Groucho Marx
quote:Originally posted by quietman18Does anyone know if glyconutrients have helped with the treatment of fibromyalgia ? I have seen claims of it doing so from websites with a vested interest, so would like an unbias opinion.Thanks.