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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66920 on: 16/05/2025 09:33:40 »
So what?

https://www.courthousenews.com/researchers-say-eco-friendly-democracies-are-likely-just-outsourcing-their-pollution/

outsourcing industries to countries with weak environmental laws, lifting them up to a 'western standard'. But there's more to it.

"In the EU, the average person produces 511kg of waste each year and only 38% of waste is recycled. "

and 'outsourcing recycling' the same way, with China backing off from it some years ago.

EU   https://resource.co/article/euric-calls-eu-postpone-new-waste-shipment-regulations

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66921 on: 16/05/2025 09:40:59 »
So what is interesting here?

"Earth's darkening, by itself, provides strong proof that climate sensitivity is much higher than IPCC's best estimate of 3C for doubled CO2. In our "Pipeline" and "Acceleration" papers, we include two other, independent, assessments of climate sensitivity, one based on paleoclimate evidence and one based on global warming from preindustrial time to the present.

Each of the three assessments concludes that the data are inconsistent with a sensitivity of 3C. As summarized in our recent (Acceleration) paper, we conclude that climate sensitivity for doubled CO2 is 4.5C - 0.5C (1σ). "


that no matter what, the IPCC calculations doesn't cover it.

https://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2025/CloudFeedback.13May2025.pdf
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66922 on: 16/05/2025 09:42:30 »
IPCC starting to remind me of those cop's
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66923 on: 16/05/2025 09:47:08 »
What is comes down to is change, and your refusing it. Instead fighting for keeping a status quo. And it doesn't matter where I look in your diverse hierarchies of relative wealth, science, ad nauseam. No consensus but wars.
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« Reply #66924 on: 16/05/2025 09:48:13 »
What more do you need to gain that stamp?


f a i l e d
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66925 on: 16/05/2025 11:43:48 »
So us western waste mountaineers looks out from our waste mountains inviting others to do the same, with them unable to see anything but their greed, and their goal to become like us.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66926 on: 16/05/2025 11:45:47 »
Living standards building on waste societies, no recycling, and fossil fuels.

And what do you think happens now?

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/us-europe-drive-global-power-emissions-higher-so-far-2025-maguire-2025-05-15/

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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #66927 on: 16/05/2025 11:47:46 »
Want to guess what Scripps will say 2026, about 2025?

Want to guess what studies will say about new 'natural' carbon sources, and less carbon sinks?
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« Reply #66928 on: 16/05/2025 11:48:34 »
you're like a hammer, hitting nails
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« Reply #66929 on: 16/05/2025 11:54:23 »
I made that prediction so long time ago and called it my worst case scenario. And you're following it with unending enthusiasm.

I also wondered what intelligence means, when all it does is to kill yourself faster. And where you think forgiveness will be as we kill our current Earth System?
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« Reply #66930 on: 16/05/2025 11:55:36 »
You belong to a failed species, and so do I, and so do my kids. Never learning, just repeating.
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« Reply #66931 on: 16/05/2025 11:59:50 »
Also, stop blaming oil and gas. If you need to blame something then blame yourself first, then those that governs you.

Your, elected or not, 'elders'. Your symptoms of a global disease
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« Reply #66932 on: 16/05/2025 12:00:55 »
Stuck in a game
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« Reply #66933 on: 16/05/2025 12:13:30 »
Keeping a status quo, cowering behind 'science'

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-05-15/solar-geoengineering-isn-t-a-climate-solution-despite-hype
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« Reply #66934 on: 16/05/2025 12:15:04 »
I made that prediction and I expect it to come home to roost

2030 to 2040 the decade of geoengineerings. As a sign of the times it screams out loud
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« Reply #66935 on: 16/05/2025 12:16:02 »
Intelligence is just a tool

It all depends on what you use it for.
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« Reply #66936 on: 16/05/2025 12:17:47 »
Ah yes, together with such things as us no longer able to drink a glass of water, without a desalination plant
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« Reply #66937 on: 16/05/2025 12:20:05 »
All signs of what you're doing to yourself, but you can't learn and you can't plan. You have no capacity for seeing yourself, even though there is nothing needed for it, except some honest introspection.
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« Reply #66938 on: 16/05/2025 12:29:12 »
Take Chile

2025   https://dialogue.earth/en/water/chile-turns-to-desalination-plants-amid-water-crisis/

and then 'rare earths' minerals and mining.

"Currently, there are 24 desalination plants operating in the country, with a total installed capacity nationwide of 9,482 liters per second (ACADES) and supplying mainly the mining and sanitary sectors."

somewhat alike us Swedes building out our electrical grids, up north, where amongst others Micro$oft plans new data centers/repositories drawing even more energy, for our 'cloud' and 'AI'.

All that sci fi trash you think is your future.

" In short, we are celebrating Water and Desalination Day "

https://pya.cl/en/2025/03/27/desalination-a-comprehensive-approach-to-guarantee-chiles-water-future/
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« Reply #66939 on: 16/05/2025 12:30:29 »
Global warming and that East European war, so much in common. Both telltales of you unable to see what you're doing.
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