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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18140 on: 10/03/2021 12:36:45 »
It makes us a rather funny species, complaining about terrorism and extremes, at the same time as we keep lifting up those traits to lead us.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18141 on: 10/03/2021 12:37:18 »
There is no democracy.

and there is a reason for it.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18142 on: 10/03/2021 12:37:35 »
You don't want it
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« Reply #18143 on: 10/03/2021 12:47:43 »
And that is from where that probability comes, 2 chances in 10. And I think I'm optimistic giving you it.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18144 on: 10/03/2021 12:49:58 »
And it has to change, beginning today, to work. It's not pledges you need, you need change.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18145 on: 10/03/2021 14:10:09 »
This one, from the BBC can be seen as a statement of the expectations we have. Keeping our current infra structures , and game, although changing the fuel. It's also a proof of the underlying complexity of your current living standard, and in part of how global warming continues to change it.

" The urgency to scale up these tentative efforts will only get more acute. Global demand for natural rubber will keep increasing, especially as developing nations grow wealthier. "Cars are the biggest share of the rubber market, and if every if every African family ends up with two cars, that's a heck of a lot of rubber," says Cornish ."

I don't need my pointy hat here. He won't see this happening, neither will his kids.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210308-rubber-the-wonder-material-we-are-running-out-of
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18146 on: 10/03/2021 14:15:31 »
then we have this  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56252695

The Fukushima disaster. In some ways unavoidable thinking of the geographic location. And not a molten salt plant but a traditional power plant producing plutonium, also using and storing mox.


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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #18147 on: 10/03/2021 14:24:45 »
https://wolfstreet.com/2017/09/13/can-you-shut-down-nuclear-power-plant-before-hurricane/
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« Reply #18148 on: 10/03/2021 14:26:56 »
This one is snagged from   https://www.thmsr.com/en/the-thorium-molten-salt-reactor/

But the principles presented are the same even without using Thorium.

" Three large historic nuclear accidents (Harrisburg, Chernobyl, Fukushima) have shown that the major risk during and after nuclear accidents lies in the spreading of radioactive iodine, caesium and strontium. These components are the product of the nuclear reaction and are formed in any reactor, thorium molten salt reactors included. And although other radioactive elements like molybdenum, ruthenium, krypton and xenon are formed as well, iodine, caesium and strontium are the troublesome ones because in today’s light water reactors they are present in volatile form, can become airborne, and can be picked up and partly remain inside living tissue. In light water reactors in usual operation, these elements remain safely trapped inside the fuel elements and their cladding. But if an accident leads to their release, iodine and caesium may get into the atmosphere and can travel away from the reactor, over large distances.

In molten salt reactors iodine and caesium – and other fission products – are ionically bound. Ionic binding is an incredibly strong chemical bonding – it’s the reason why you can safely use kitchen salt, without having to worry about poisonous chlorine gas coming out of it, even though roughly half of your kitchen salt is chlorine.

In molten salt reactors, this ionic bonding makes sure that all radioactive components that provide a key radiological hazard are safely bound to the salt and are unable to travel by air.

Contrary to most of today’s reactors, the molten salt reactor is not pressurised and contains no water: there is nothing that could cause an explosion. Molten salt reactors therefore also have no ‘driving mechanism’ that would be able to spread the ionically bound radioactive components. Of course, a molten salt reactor will need adequate shielding, including protection from outside impact. These aspects will have to be included in a design with appropriate protection levels.

The danger of nuclear meltdown, which is generally viewed as a major concern in nuclear reactors, is simply not present in molten salt reactors because the fuel is not in a solid state. Meltdown occurs when the solid uranium fuel rods overheat to such an extent that the material melts, which can have dire consequences if the material then escapes its containment. In the MSR the fuel is expected to be in a liquid state and the structure is engineered to safely accommodate this.

Yet another boundary of safety in MSR’s is established by the reactive behaviour of the salt. When the salt is cooled (because the pumps are ‘on’), the nuclear reaction intensifies. When the salt heats up (the pumps ‘off’) the nuclear reaction slows down or even stops. This ‘load following’ behaviour is a convenient operating principle, but also serves as a fool-proof safety mechanism. It means that if for whatever reason the cooling pumps fail, the reactor heats up to a calculated maximum, then simply stops.

If for whatever reason the reactor heats up further, another safety mechanism gets activated. This is the so called ‘freeze plug’, also called ‘melting plug’. Both names apply to the same simple mechanism that consists of a section of salt in a drain pipe that is actively kept frozen by an electric fan. If the power fails, the fan stops, the plug melts and gravity makes the salt drain away to the safety of specially designed storage in which the decay heat is released by passive cooling.

The big difference with earlier solid fuel designs here is that instead of power being needed to shut down a reactor safely, power is needed to prevent the safe shutdown of a reactor. Therefore, in case control is lost the only logical outcome is automatic shutdown.

The properties described above combined can be summarized in the statement that molten salt reactors are inherently safe, meaning their safety does not depend on additional mechanisms that may require adequate handling in order to function properly. Molten salt reactors have also been described as ‘walk away safe’. This means that the reactor will shut itself down safely, even without any human intervention.

Finally, because of their small footprint, molten salt reactors can be built underground. Even though this will not always be necessary, building them underground provides extra shielding from external impact. "
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« Reply #18149 on: 10/03/2021 14:31:11 »
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/187917-startup-gets-funding-for-its-molten-salt-nuclear-reactor-that-eats-radioactive-waste
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« Reply #18150 on: 10/03/2021 14:34:37 »
So you see, I do use sources, for everything. What I call 'geoengineerings' are what we already have done, over the last two hundred years or so. And they were all blown up by our expectations of a glorious future, and they all fell down to earth, flat as a pancake.
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« Reply #18151 on: 10/03/2021 14:36:42 »
and you still keep on hunting this glorious future, your assets declining, eco and biodiversity disappearing, repression growing, population growing. And you think that by recycling your garbage and becoming a vegetarian this will change.

you're wrong
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« Reply #18152 on: 10/03/2021 14:40:07 »
what you're doing today is accelerating global warming. That as talks and pledges never replaced action. That as using your mind is more than just recycling at home. What does that matter if there is no recycling done after it. And what does that matter if the companies and society producing this waste only look to what they define as being 'profitable', keeping you happy and your wallet filled.
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« Reply #18153 on: 10/03/2021 14:41:25 »
you want to get off this planet?
Go to mars and live for ever happily?

Good riddance
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« Reply #18154 on: 10/03/2021 15:06:00 »
You keep thinking in terms of the game and your GDP. You try to replace young people missing by immigrations, depending on country tailored to your specific needs. A lot of industrialized country's today are facing a elderly population with few being in their 'working age'. Instead of accepting it and turning it into a pivotal point for what may come you go head hunting. Because the game works on GDP, and your living standards always raising. and the only way they do it is by presenting some few people with larger profits. That is their , and yours carrot. So you keep running, chasing impossible dreams, and finding problems to raise as the assimilation fails.
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« Reply #18155 on: 10/03/2021 15:08:16 »
We're all territorial, those that come brings with them their own 'water', their own traditions, religion, ideas and beliefs. They are as territorial as you are, and depending on how you handle it conflicts will raise.
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« Reply #18156 on: 10/03/2021 15:10:52 »
A assimilation may take generations. You don't have them.
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« Reply #18157 on: 10/03/2021 15:17:29 »
Weird isn't it? The underlying principles are the same, the 'farming game' is easily defined, 'the American dream' a very good example as I tend to think of it. But  traditions and other beliefs will differ. still, it doesn't really matter for this. The point is that instead of accepting and living with the consequences you do your best to keep the game afloat.

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« Reply #18158 on: 10/03/2021 15:18:28 »
You're all scared of a thinner wallet. The game is not built for sharing and you know it.
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« Reply #18159 on: 10/03/2021 16:43:53 »
I'm not surprised. This is more or less inevitable under the current game.

" Internet service providers use network equipment, called deep packet inspection (DPI), which enables the government to track and filter content. Roskomnadzor will compel these providers to slow down the speeds of Twitter for users.

Officials have previously tested a "sovereign RuNet" - an independent network that routes the country's web traffic and data through state-controlled points. This means the Kremlin can block Russian connections to websites around the world or slow down the flow of data for Russian users accessing certain sites.

Supporters say it offers protection if the West ever tries to sever Russia's internet access. But activists say it gives the Kremlin the power to censor Russians from the rest of the world."   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56344304

So we can add Russia to the list of countries prepared to cut ties with the Internet.
And it doesn't look too good for their relations with EU either

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/12/russia-ready-to-end-ties-with-the-european-union-if-hit-with-sanctions.html
Germany in something of a bind here, considering Nord Stream 2.  Their answer to global warming.

Brazil is something of a exception, they want to keep connecting, but not as it used to be.

" Brazil made a bunch of bold promises, ranging in severity from forcing companies like Facebook and Google to move their servers inside Brazilian borders, to building a new all-Brazilian email system—which they've already done. But the first actionable opportunity the country was presented with is this transatlantic cable, which had been in the works since 2012 but is only just now seeing construction begin. And with news that the cable plan will not include American vendors, it looks like Brazil is serious; it's investing $185 million on the cable project alone. And not a penny of that sum will go to an American company. "

https://gizmodo.com/brazils-keeping-its-promise-to-disconnect-from-the-u-s-1652771021


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