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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67260 on: 25/05/2025 07:40:48 »
Preferably yourself, right?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67261 on: 25/05/2025 07:49:19 »
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/21/nasa-giss-lab-trump-shut-down-james-hansen
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67262 on: 25/05/2025 07:55:23 »
Well

"Earth's darkening, by itself, provides strong proof that climate sensitivity is much higher than IPCC's best estimate of 3C for doubled CO2. In our "Pipeline" and "Acceleration" papers, we include two other, independent, assessments of climate sensitivity, one based on paleoclimate evidence and one based on global warming from preindustrial time to the present.

Each of the three assessments concludes that the data are inconsistent with a sensitivity of 3C. As summarized in our recent (Acceleration) paper, we conclude that climate sensitivity for doubled CO2 is 4.5C plus/minus 0.5C. In future communications, we will describe each of the other two analyses.

Climate sensitivity as low as 3C for doubled CO2 is excluded with greater than 99 percent confidence"

https://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2025/CloudFeedback.13May2025.pdf





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« Reply #67263 on: 25/05/2025 07:57:30 »
So, what you have to look forward to.

Furthermore, without funding studies will disappear. But you know, global warming won't
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« Reply #67264 on: 25/05/2025 08:01:50 »
It might allow those most conservative studies to exist, possibly? Those that know how to balance their output, making sure to call it 'climate change', avoiding all referrals to global warming. But that won't hold.

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« Reply #67265 on: 25/05/2025 08:03:24 »
The pattern is clear though. You're going to war, and we're going to lie about it.
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« Reply #67266 on: 25/05/2025 08:26:39 »
I remember the media, wholeheartedly swallowing 'adapting' and 'mitigating', preaching it as a solution where this one, 2025, comes in a same theme.

https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/risk-management/2025--a-year-to-go-beyond-traditional-risk-management-519386.aspx

Noticed how those slogans disappeared?
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« Reply #67267 on: 25/05/2025 08:27:09 »
You have a bleak future in front of you
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« Reply #67268 on: 25/05/2025 08:30:13 »
You needed my democracy decades ago, and by now you won't get it.
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« Reply #67269 on: 25/05/2025 09:06:47 »
Insurance industries will find it a lot harder to build predictions 2025 and forward as Mr Trump and associates dismantles climate science. What that will mean for you, trying to insure businesses, homes etc is anyone's guess.

You can always hope that they too are true believers in Mr Trumps visions. But I wouldn't bet on it.


" The financial cost of natural catastrophes at the start of 2025 was notably elevated yet manageable for governments and the insurance industry. The minimum USD110 billion in economic losses from all natural perils was 99% higher than the most recent 10-year Q1 average (USD55 billion). The portion covered by the private insurance market or public insurance entities was at least USD56 billion, or a resounding 176% higher than the decadal average (USD20 billion).

The losses were skewed by the significant costs associated with the deadly January wildfires in the greater Los Angeles, California metro region. Please note that Q1 loss totals often show robust loss development as more data clarity emerges."

https://www.ajg.com/gallagherre/-/media/files/gallagher/gallagherre/news-and-insights/2025/april/gallagherre-natural-catastrophe-and-climate-report-q1-2025.pdf
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« Reply #67270 on: 25/05/2025 09:11:17 »
As for wars already existing Africa stands out. Then comes the Middle East, India-China-Pakistan and last but not least Russia - Ukraine with its ardent supporter Western Europe. USA involved in all while preparing for another in Asia. North - South Korea another possibility.
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« Reply #67271 on: 25/05/2025 09:22:18 »
The one that really moves us here in the West though is Israel- Gaza. By its emotional and cultural associations to us. Israel an example of a modern Western 'democracy', still housing former victims of the Nazi regime. Russia - Ukraine something that our media likes to push for but not with the same humanistic impact, or lack of humanistic impact.





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« Reply #67272 on: 25/05/2025 09:23:39 »
It's a form of disconnection, between those that write, and those that read, those that tell us what to think, and what we think.
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« Reply #67273 on: 25/05/2025 09:28:38 »
And, it doesn't matter where you look, Africa or Gaza, it still stinks and we still manipulate it. By avoidance or by involvements, or both.


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« Reply #67274 on: 25/05/2025 09:50:38 »
This one made me smile

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2020/07/climate-change-equilibrium-climate-sensitivity-global-warming/

Especially this   "Our work suggests that models with an ECS outside of our range are unlikely to be representative of the true ECS and can, therefore, be expected to either overestimate or underestimate future temperature change.

However, our study is not definitive and there is still space in the statistics for values at the high end of ECS, in particular, as this is less well constrained than our lower end. Therefore, our work cannot definitively rule out these high-end models."

yep, we cannot rule it out. Especially since all IPCC predictions have been forced to be revised, again, to the worse.





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« Reply #67275 on: 25/05/2025 09:55:06 »
So, we're going to both wars and civil disturbances, as it get worse. Where the last ones will look a lot like class issues, 'class struggles'. We will also see blame games growing into wars.
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« Reply #67276 on: 25/05/2025 09:55:53 »
Do you really think your odds are good?
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« Reply #67277 on: 25/05/2025 10:11:12 »
I've seen media talking about USA isolating itself. But looking at the way USA still involves itself in wars it doesn't hold.
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« Reply #67278 on: 25/05/2025 10:12:25 »
Well, unless we're talking about Western Europe, and our relations maybe?
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« Reply #67279 on: 25/05/2025 20:54:18 »
" The Indus Basin lies in four countries: Pakistan, India, China, and Afghanistan. The largest portion of the basin, at 47%, lies in Pakistan while India contains the second biggest share at 39%. China and Afghanistan contain the remaining 14%. The Indus Basin spans the length of Pakistan, constitutes a majority (65%) of its area and forms part of all provinces and territories of the country"            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_basin

 https://www.nation.com.pk/18-May-2025/pakistan-army-warns-india-blocking-indus-waters-will-trigger-long-term-fallout

 https://www.sakshipost.com/news/we-would-die-hunger-must-defuse-water-bomb-hanging-over-us-pak-senators-desperate-appeal-over

Reasons for war?

 "Three-fourths of the water consumed by Pakistan comes from outside. Out of every ten people, nine are living based on international border basins." Senator Zafar also referred to statistics, saying that 90 per cent of crops in Pakistan depend on water that went to Pakistan due to IWT (Indus Water Treaty), as he added that all of Pakistan's power projects and dams are built on this water. "

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/pakistani-senator-explains-india-iwt-suspension-move-calls-it-water-bomb-we-could-die-in-hunger-2025-05-23-991637
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