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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67320 on: 26/05/2025 17:36:37 »
So what would happen if it, the AMOC, would collapse? I don't know, but I know it would be catastrophic, and fast if so.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/what-would-happen-if-atlantic-meridional-overturning-circulation-amoc-collapses-how-likely

If you think it could solve global warming? Well, I don't know. The way we have created it emission wise is in no way 'natural', in the meaning of nature, this earth system, creating it so I just don't know. But assume it could, and leave us in a new ice age. Think that jump would be better?
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67321 on: 26/05/2025 17:40:42 »
If there is any sens moral to it it should be that we get that fossil ban as fast as we can, starting today.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67322 on: 27/05/2025 10:20:10 »
Want to know how the average American views it?


Look no further than to the comments under this link.

'yin and yang', was it?               Maybe that will be Mr Trumps next vision?


https://bsky.app/profile/zacklabe.com/post/3lpzvcbvsj22w
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67323 on: 27/05/2025 10:22:06 »
It's both extremely funny, and terrifying, in its lack of awareness.
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Re: An essay in futility, too long to read :)
« Reply #67324 on: 27/05/2025 10:27:01 »
Also, I would define it as a typical reaction from those whose first, and last, defense will be gambling on procreation to 'fix it'.


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« Reply #67325 on: 27/05/2025 10:30:26 »
Yeah, I know, maybe not an American but my gut tells me it is
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« Reply #67326 on: 27/05/2025 10:34:44 »
But there is one very good question there, "Why won't governments acknowledge climate change and that we are responsible???"

And that one is simple to answer, looking at it from an distance. It's about a game of inequality, 'winners' and 'losers' in where every block is for themselves, every nation for themselves, and every man for himself. Were our winners get honed by it, forming their beliefs and ideas, and when reaching their 'top' becoming the last ones having any will to change it. Also becoming the ones with the most to lose on a change.
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« Reply #67327 on: 27/05/2025 10:35:58 »
It's just normal human behaviors, but this time they will take us to an extinction event.
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« Reply #67328 on: 27/05/2025 10:38:39 »
The darker side to that one is that this game will have a very good chance to also lift up blabbermouths, narcissists, egomaniacs and liars. People with a 'vision'
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« Reply #67329 on: 27/05/2025 10:43:42 »
And in defining it as 'climate change' instead of global warming you can see how the the overall 'climate' of beliefs are getting manipulated. By those that should know better. So it comes down to one thing.

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« Reply #67330 on: 27/05/2025 10:48:21 »
So if you thought that by white washing global warming to 'climate change', it would make it any more acceptable gaining a movement you just bit yourself in your ass. Instead of that you just became another of those defenders of a status quo.
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« Reply #67331 on: 27/05/2025 10:50:25 »
Otherwise it's perfectly correct, the will and focus is our governments.


But they don't have it
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« Reply #67332 on: 27/05/2025 15:33:14 »
" Since the beginning of this year, more than 1.4 million hectares of land have been affected by wildfires, according to figures from Russia's Federal Agency for Forestry published on Tuesday, about three times the total area affected by fires in the United States and Canada so far this year combined.  "

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/14/europe/russia-wildfires-rage-siberia-region-intl-latam

and   https://theins.ru/en/society/279838
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« Reply #67333 on: 27/05/2025 15:35:05 »
"  CAMS has already monitored unusual fires in the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland and Northwest Europe, due to the drier conditions they have experienced in recent weeks. Additionally, large wildfires have already been developing in eastern Eurasia, including in the Arctic Circle, and Canada. CAMS will keep monitoring the emissions resulting from these episodes and highlight any unusual activity. "

https://atmosphere.copernicus.eu/copernicus-wildfires-review-below-average-emissions-southeast-asia-rare-fires-uk-south-korea
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« Reply #67334 on: 27/05/2025 15:36:24 »
Canada

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/wildfires-erupt-near-northern-alberta-oil-well-sites
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« Reply #67335 on: 27/05/2025 15:38:31 »
May 18  Siberia

https://mkweather.com/unbelievable-40c-in-siberia-in-may-423c-above-50n-in-kazakhstan-china-with-470c-iran-486c-floods-in-china-611-mm-24-h-and-vietnam/
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« Reply #67336 on: 27/05/2025 15:46:03 »
You can add things like our old West European forests gone in Europe, even in formerly known 'forest countries' as Sweden, leaving it to forest companies to decide what 'should' be planted for the future. And you can easily guess what kind of trees, and forests, that means. No old natural forests left
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« Reply #67337 on: 27/05/2025 15:47:14 »
It's about progress, and I know you like that word, don't you?

and profits
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« Reply #67338 on: 27/05/2025 15:55:17 »
And then comes this

https://phys.org/news/2025-05-young-trees-moment-drought-reshapes.html

" Combining national forest inventories reveals distinct role of climate on tree recruitment in European forests"

A preprint, freely downloadable, no paywall

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304380025000985
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« Reply #67339 on: 27/05/2025 16:00:10 »
 This

https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-forests-disappearing-climate-change-replanting-74c5ada85dcbe64d2972a15f2d5b4710
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