[yor_on]

And ignoring everything except what they think they already know. There's a difference between trying to plan for unknowns, and trying to plan for unknown unknowns.

You can't plan for the second one

[yor_on]

Militaries builds on fossil fuels, just look at Israel for what the cost becomes. So they ignore global warming, they have no choice.

[yor_on]

Disappointing, isn't it?

[yor_on]

It's nothing new

2021    https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/climate/climate-publications/adaptation-and-resilience/the-impact-of-militaries-on-climate-change

[yor_on]

Fighting without fossil fuels will put it back several hundred years, ignoring nuclear naval forces as submarines
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As for aircraft carriers? With no aircraft's?

[yor_on]

Well, you might be able to use drones of course, but artillery and transportation's will become a lot more difficult.

[yor_on]

As will aircraft's, Zeppelin's anyone?

[yor_on]

It all goes back to one thing. Fossil fuels are self-contained 'energy' in itself. Batteries, electricity and 'green tech' is something entirely different, and so becomes its energy storage, and the energy production connected to it. As well as it just becomes another resource scarcity and source to conflicts.

[yor_on]

I always liked zeppelin's, better admit it. But for a modern war?

[yor_on]

Nah, you're stuck. In a game without a future

[yor_on]

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/carbon-footprint-israels-war-gaza-exceeds-100-countries

[yor_on]

This is almost, but not entirely, funny. Haven't seen any counting on the emissions though, rebuilding, flooding's, wild fires etc, but it should come.

"Ukrainian authorities are carefully collecting evidence of a new type of war crime known as ecocide."

Wonder if Vietnam should do the same? Afghanistan? Libya? Syria?

Wars


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/02/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-environment.html

[yor_on]

And the worst thing about them is that we could have avoided them, but only if we wanted to.


Which we didn't

[yor_on]

Take another look at your politicians.

[yor_on]

Now, if it wasn't for the environmental consequences of even a 'limited' nuclear war, say India Pakistan, We could test it, and see what we can learn from it.

Not that you seem to learn anything as far as I've seen, but you can always pretend to, can't you?

https://defconwarningsystem.com/2025/05/07/india-pakistan-conflict-2025-is-nuclear-war-on-the-horizon-and-potential-targets/

[yor_on]

You need my democracy, and you needed it more than decades ago. Assuming we're somewhat sane as a species, and can learn, which looking at facts becomes quite questionable.

[yor_on]

Take a look at our Nazis, cutting their hair for pillows, making lamps out of peoples skins. And soap from their fat.

[yor_on]

The only thing missing cannibalism.

[yor_on]

Sane?

[yor_on]

History seems like a Ferris wheel, going round and round, back to the same sort of behaviors time after time. As with Stalin starving Ukraine, or now Israel slaughtering Palestinians.