[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

Hello!

I'm new here so I think I have to introduce to you myself.

The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations

How will you answer this scientific question in science or religion? “How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”? Will you answer, “The created X is complex or irreducibly complex and the un-created X is simple or reducibly complex?”. Or in Biology, a difference or dividing line between an intentionally made biological cell to non-intentional? Will you answer, “intentional is information-coded while the non-intentional is no-information code,”? Or in Cosmology, an intelligently designed Universe to non-intelligently designed Universe?

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Nothing makes sense in science except in the light of Intelligent Design <id>. So, interrelation is unproved and un-provable. We believe it only because the only alternative is evolution, and that is unthinkable.

[Fruityloop]

 New intelligence? Old intelligence? That's weird.
If you can elaborate that would be good.

[guest39538]

 I get it now, intelligent design relates to a presumption that all things are a part of an intelligent design, I have said similar in the thought that the entire Universe is a Nuclear reactor, and we are nothing more than nuclear waste based on the mimic of trying to create Plasma, and magnetic bottling , which I feel is why the sun stays in confinement and does not just disperse into a gas.

However, I can answer your questions.

 (1) how do we know if a biological cell is designed or not?

We know because we can sit and observe algae on a pond form.

Or (2) How do you know if your car is really your car?

Your name is on the log book

Or (3) how do you know if a square is not a rectangle?

Because we called it a square, you could of called a rectangle a square if you wanted to , but then what are you going to call the square a rectangle?


This seems a bit silly to be honest.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

Hi Folks, this is MrID again.
I am sharing you the science, powerful science from the new Intelligent Design <id>...

The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations

How will you answer this scientific question in science or religion? “How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”? Will you answer, “The created X is complex or irreducibly complex and the un-created X is simple or reducibly complex?”. Or in Biology, a difference or dividing line between an intentionally made biological cell to non-intentional? Will you answer, “intentional is information-coded while the non-intentional is no-information code,”? Or in Cosmology, an intelligently designed Universe to non-intelligently designed Universe?

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

Hi, This is Edgar Postrado, the discoverer of intelligence and non-intelligence.

Guys, I think that you really like science. I come here to talk real science since I am a discoverer in science. Please, do not delete my post. I am just sharing to you real science...

The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations

How will you answer this scientific question in science or religion? “How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”? Will you answer, “The created X is complex or irreducibly complex and the un-created X is simple or reducibly complex?”. Or in Biology, a difference or dividing line between an intentionally made biological cell to non-intentional? Will you answer, “intentional is information-coded while the non-intentional is no-information code,”? Or in Cosmology, an intelligently designed Universe to non-intelligently designed Universe?

[Origin]

I come here to talk real science since I am a discoverer in science. Please, do not delete my post. I am just sharing to you real science...

OK, start talking real science and share.

[Kryptid]

“How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”

I have to say that I have considered this question before, but am unsure how one would do so in a scientific manner.

Will you answer, “The created X is complex or irreducibly complex and the un-created X is simple or reducibly complex?”

No, I would consider that a poor test to differentiate the two. I'd have to go back and look into again (it's been a while), but the nylonase mutations lead to an irreducibly-complex system where removing one component of the system eliminates the ability of the mutated bacteria to digest certain kinds of nylon precursors.

Will you answer, “intentional is information-coded while the non-intentional is no-information code,”

That's also a bad test. We know that mutations plus natural selection can produce new information in the genome.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

First, I thank the MODERATOR for moving this post. I thought that new science explanations are not welcome here.

Well, actually, the questions I had posted in my INTRO are unanswerable by anyone, even to the best of Evolution Theory, no answer. Thus, our science is not really that powerful. Well, it is too long to copy and paste, but I think the answers to them are here in my link: my science article. For starter, read it and let us discuss here.

[Colin2B]

Hi, This is Edgar Postrado, the discoverer of intelligence and non-intelligence.

Hi Edgar, welcome to the forum.

I’m afraid you can’t claim to be the discoverer of intelligence and non-intelligence as these concepts have been around for a long time. You may need to think about how you title you concept.

Your links will be nofollow until you have posted a few more times and you can introduce yourself in “just chat” section.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

Hi Colin, thank you for the REPLY.

Actually, there are almost 70 definitions of intelligence and of course, 70 non-intelligence. You can FREELY add more, if you want. Maybe, 80 definitions! The best that our science could give. It was researched by two researchers. I can give you the link, or you can Google it.

BUT...BUT...BUT... those definitions cannot even answer this simple question: "Is the universe intelligently designed or not?"

Whazzap?? Why they could never answer that very simple scientific question? Is the question stupid or the definitions are stupid?

I solved it and I discovered it. That is why I am here. I'm trying to share you the link in ZENODO, but, sorry..it still does not work. 

[puppypower]

An intelligent design, in a general sense, would be a type of design that is predictable in terms of its function and performance. It will not be all over the place, helta skelta. Its activity will follow from earlier principles, rules and actions, in terms of its propagation to the future.

In chess, an intelligent  design to win, might involve a series of anticipated moves that will lead to a check mate. This series of moves may not be obvious to your opponent, who may see only the limited scope of your first move out of context with your bigger plan. He might also see his options as being more open. He may not see the pitfall of certain moves. It takes intelligence to see intelligent design, since lack of intelligence will narrow the scope and not see the correct future.

Inherent within science is such a problem. Science is currently based mostly on specialists. This is useful for any particular area of science but it can run into problems when one speciality needs to cross the boundary with other specialities. The interfaces to the next move is not as well known. One ay be good at step A but Step C may be so removed from expertise, it will not be fully anticipated. This is why science if often disjointed between specialties. How do quarks impact cells? The two area of specialty do not interface at all so any theory that does will not be known by either. 

For example, water; H2O, is the second most abundant molecule in the universe behind only hydrogen gas, which is H2. Life as we know it works within the matrix of liquid H2O, and the energy bandwidth of life lies within the energy bandwidth between H2 and H2O. Only a rare bacteria or two are able to use the entire energy bandwidth all the way from H2 to H2O. Is this random coincidence or part of an intelligent design that anticipated a needed goal before it occurred in time? Was this a chess move anticipated many steps ahead in the future from physics, to chemistry to biology? This is too many specialities to get an answer from any specialist.

Say we start with the BB, and based on the known history of the universe.  The BB leads to Hydrogen and Helium that then form stars, with these stars leading to the universal abundance of water. Were these chess moves also anticipated at the start of the BB? Just because you cannot see them does not mean they were not there. Specialty may not be able to span the bandwidth. The assumption of an intelligent design; chess master, gives one two points to draw a line; BB and Life. Once needs to figure how to connect the two bookends, building from both ends inward. If they connect we have an intelligently designed bridge. This is like replaying the chess match, after you lose, to see how you were set up for failure very early on, when you were not aware. A chess master may not show all his moves, since this is competitive sport, but rest assure this was planned.

[Kryptid]

Intelligent design is a blurry concept. Is an ant mound intelligently designed? Ants do have brains, after all. What about a bird nest? What about footprints? Surely one wouldn't normally think of footprints as such, but what if they were left intentionally as a way for others to follow them? That would represent an intentional modification of the environment for a purpose.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

@puppypower,

Before you could use the word intelligence, you must first scientifically define it, with experiment, if not, you are adding to the 70 definitions that are existing, further messing this topic.

[Bored chemist]

How will you answer this scientific question in science or religion? “How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”?

I would answer  it by saying your question doesn't make much sense.
What do you mean by "created" and "un-created"?

An ox-bow lake is created by a river.

[Bored chemist]

Before you could use the word intelligence, you must first scientifically define it,

PuppyPower is not the only one who needs to be careful with definitions.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

@Kryptid,

I've been sharing here the link of my science article in ZENODO (CERN supported open journal) and see for yourself and I had already answered on that the nest making, or you can add, gorilla using sticks... or the crow dropping nuts in the road...

If you are really serious, you can just go to ZENODO, search "intelligence", best match, see Edgar Postrado, the title, "The Power of Intelligent Design...." and read the FREE article.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

How will you answer this scientific question in science or religion? “How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”?

I would answer  it by saying your question doesn't make much sense.
What do you mean by "created" and "un-created"?

An ox-bow lake is created by a river.

If you have no differences between intentional to non-intentional, or I use "intelligence", you cannot answer that question, basically, which means, the power of ToE has gone.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

Before you could use the word intelligence, you must first scientifically define it,

PuppyPower is not the only one who needs to be careful with definitions.

If we cannot scientifically define terms in science, we cannot simply explain.

[Kryptid]

If you have no differences between intentional to non-intentional, or I use "intelligence", you cannot answer that question, basically, which means, the power of ToE has gone.

That is very much incorrect. The theory of evolution doesn't require us to have a definition of intelligence. All it needs is for the theory to make testable predictions. It does and it has been very successful in those predictions.

[MrIntelligentDesign (OP)]

If you have no differences between intentional to non-intentional, or I use "intelligence", you cannot answer that question, basically, which means, the power of ToE has gone.

That is very much incorrect. The theory of evolution doesn't require us to have a definition of intelligence. All it needs is for the theory to make testable predictions. It does and it has been very successful in those predictions.

Oh please, think for  a moment.. Does the "change" in frequency allelle..." intentional or not? How do you know? Can you test it?