[fiddlerpaul]

OK, I know it sounds weird, but its a long story and involved being involved with a 'guru' kind of guy that I somehow picked up on his energy and became conscious of myself as separate from everything, but only for 3 months, I don't know why only that long.  It was very liberating and also depressing when it ended.  I could elaborate but...well, if you really want to know, let me know and I can go into it.

I had been spiritually transformed on some energetic level of my being

huh?!

[fiddlerpaul]

Ok, I'll grant you it may not be that, but the stopping of the full orgasm to its conclusion accomplished something...then what?  We are energetic beings and there is nothing more extreme energetically than an orgasm taken to its conclusion.  The shifting of energies has effects which ripple throughout ones emotional/physical/spiritual being in ways we cannot fully understand. 
If I was once in a state where I could feel good from orgasm based on my spiritual alignment within, and experience POIS when not in as good an alignment, then it begs the question...

(1)
...But no doubt now x amount of semen release equals more likelihood of POIS...

(2) 
...I am fairly skeptical of a chemical solution after trying a number of things over my life...

(1)
In my experience, semen release has no connection to POIS. "Taoist-technique" orgasms (without semen release) have still led to very strong bouts of POIS for me.

(2)
Levitra cures 50-75% of my POIS now. The lower % occurs when there is not enough time lapsed between releases. For me, that means weeks.

As always, please note that using Levitra without ED may possibly lead to heart problems. Always consult a physician.

[Bizzy]

Hi fellow POIS sufferers

Do you folks find that POIS seriously affects every aspect of your life everyday ?.
I find this a very powerful illness which affects me everyday. This is because the mental symptoms linger for so long after an orgasm.

[pyropeach]

but the stopping of the full orgasm to its conclusion accomplished something...

fiddlerpaul, does this technique relieve your POIS symptoms if you do it while you're symptomatic?  I ask because right after doing this technique, my POIS symptoms are greatly diminished when I have them.

[demografx]

Hi fellow POIS sufferers

Do you folks find that POIS seriously affects every aspect of your life everyday ?.
I find this a very powerful illness which affects me everyday. This is because the mental symptoms linger for so long after an orgasm.

Not only do they linger, but the constant THREAT of the NEXT orgasm>>POIS cycle hanging over our heads surely affects our daily living as well.

[hk1979]

too much sugar is very very bad!!! if you feel you drank something with too much sugar, like a Coke, try to find something with protein to balance it, like fish or meat, but within 30 minutes.

the worst POIS that I ever had was after 5 orgasms within 3 hours. I fell asleep, and after I woke up, I was so tired, and during the day I got a  fever and I was notious. I ended up in the clinic. I was too scared to tell them what I did, but they took me up and put me on a drip with electrolytes. I felt much better after two hours of this treatment.

It made me think that POIS is directly link to complete depletion of energy levels, and in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucozade [nofollow]

It consist primarily of Glucose.

Like I said before, don't take DHEA more than a month. Try to follow the correct diet, but it is very easy. Don't take Protein alone and when you take carbohydrate alone, not too much, otherwise search for some protein to add.

And if you take carbohydrate, try to avoid SUCROSE (sugar). Look for products with Glucose and even better, Fructose. You will feel so much better!

[Bizzy]

OK, I know it sounds weird, but its a long story and involved being involved with a 'guru' kind of guy that I somehow picked up on his energy and became conscious of myself as separate from everything, but only for 3 months, I don't know why only that long.  It was very liberating and also depressing when it ended.  I could elaborate but...well, if you really want to know, let me know and I can go into it.

Please elaborate....was he a sex guru....

[curtis19786]

Hi everybody. I also suffer from most of the symptoms ever since I began ejaculating.. I am 30 years old.. Similar to the experience of most of you, these rare symptoms have been attributed to psychological factors by the doctors I contacted, which is really disappointing.. By chance, during my efforts to find something through the web, I found the abstract of thearticle published by M. Waldinger and it has been good to learn at least that I am not crazy and there are others like me..

I am living in Turkey, therefore I did not have the chance to talk to Mr. Waldinger face to face, I only contacted him through e-mail and received a few messages (I received the latest one a few years ago) that indicated they have still been working on this issue but could not come up with a final solution.. Later on, I could not reach him even through his e-mail. I have no clue about their progress.

With this e-mail I just wanted to say hi to you all. I hope finally we will have a solution for this really annoying and disappointing set of symptoms..

[fiddlerpaul]

I haven't tried it while suffering symptoms because SO far I've managed to avoid another full orgasm.
Can't believe how good I'm getting at this.  At first it happened just because I was desperate not to have orgasm but now I can turn it off pretty easily. 
The only explanation I can think for why it would help in your situation is that the rush of endorphin chemicals from getting to orgasm might counterattack your symptoms.

but the stopping of the full orgasm to its conclusion accomplished something...

fiddlerpaul, does this technique relieve your POIS symptoms if you do it while you're symptomatic?  I ask because right after doing this technique, my POIS symptoms are greatly diminished when I have them.

[fiddlerpaul]

No.  He was connected to a popular meditation group but had experienced 'enlightenment' and had broken off from their group.  He had a powerful presence about him and I learned some meditation techniques from him.  The problem was I had already been doing another spiritual practise and at one point I decided his was not what I wanted, so I had actually quit going to him and doing his practise when this experience came to me. 
I experienced a sense of myself that was separate from everything else and this freed me to not be threatened by anyone or anything.  I had/have been prone to insecurity and fear through my life, so this was quite an experience and I found myself able to love others and have a very rich experience, and most significantly had more overall energy.  One day after 3 months, it just broke up and left me back where I had been.  During that time orgasms were a gas and I would just keep on truckin after them.

OK, I know it sounds weird, but its a long story and involved being involved with a 'guru' kind of guy that I somehow picked up on his energy and became conscious of myself as separate from everything, but only for 3 months, I don't know why only that long.  It was very liberating and also depressing when it ended.  I could elaborate but...well, if you really want to know, let me know and I can go into it.

Please elaborate....was he a sex guru....

[demografx]

(1) too much sugar is very very bad!!!

(2) in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:

It consist primarily of Glucose.

hk1979: I thought Glucose _is_ sugar!!!???

[demografx]

Hi everybody. I also suffer from most of the symptoms ever since I began ejaculating.. I am 30 years old.. Similar to the experience of most of you, these rare symptoms have been attributed to psychological factors by the doctors I contacted, which is really disappointing.. By chance, during my efforts to find something through the web, I found the abstract of thearticle published by M. Waldinger and it has been good to learn at least that I am not crazy and there are others like me..

I am living in Turkey, therefore I did not have the chance to talk to Mr. Waldinger face to face, I only contacted him through e-mail and received a few messages (I received the latest one a few years ago) that indicated they have still been working on this issue but could not come up with a final solution.. Later on, I could not reach him even through his e-mail. I have no clue about their progress.

With this e-mail I just wanted to say hi to you all. I hope finally we will have a solution for this really annoying and disappointing set of symptoms..

Welcome, Curtis!

[cdma77]

Hi,

I haven't posted in a while.  I have noticed that if I masturbate WITHOUT ejaculation I still feel bad.  I am wondering if the loss of prejaculation fluid from the prostate, etc., maybe part of the problem, or all of it.  Has anybody noticed this?  I also notice REALLY vivid dreams and I could sleep for 10 hours!

Jeff

[Bizzy]

I get POIS only after a full release, a partial release does'nt do it. I think POIS is triggered only after a signal is sent from the testicles to the hypothalamus for the manufacture of GnRH. So in some people this signal might be occuring without a full release, as I have read on this forum.

[hk1979]

(1) too much sugar is very very bad!!!

(2) in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:

It consist primarily of Glucose.

hk1979: I thought Glucose _is_ sugar!!!???

You are right that glucose is in sugar, but not 100%. Sugar as we know it, is called Sucrose.

Your body still need to change it into Glucose. Glucose and Fructose is better to take directly. They are used for body electrolyte recharge.

Diabetes will fall ill when taking sugar, but it is OK for them to take Fructose, as Fructose is called the LOW GI sugar. It doesn't give that spike, therefor it also doesn't have that sugar crash :-)

[solution]

I believe that there are 2 groups of individuals with pois.
1st those with diarrhea after an orgasm and 2nd those with constipation after an orgasm.
In my case I am in the second group.
What are your views on you.

[deloun]

Hi, I'm new on this forum, I discovered this thread recently while I was searching the internet for the post orgasmic illness syndrome, to see if there's already more to find about POIS. To my surprise I found this thread about POIS which is a real support to me after I've read through all the posts and I all the nasty symptoms and huge struggles recognised that this disease brings with it.

I have POIS ever since I became sexually active, though for a long time I didn't know that my complaints occur after sexual activity, because they appear very gradually and last for at least two weeks.
I suffer from complaints like severe to extreme tension (physically and mentally), nervousness, depression, anxiety, insecurity, concentration problems, cognitive memory problems, tiredness, frequently occuring diarrhea and other complaints ever since before my teen years.

I've tried many therapies and tried many ways and searches to find a solution to my complaints and always suspected that I might suffer from them because of difficult and traumatic experiences that I experienced in my youth (not sexually related).
Only until many years later I began suspecting that my complaints might be linked to sexual activity. Although before that I already had the feeling that sexual activity might have some influence on my complaints but at first I didn't believe it was the main source where they came from and part of me wanted to deny the possibility that my complaints might be linked to sexual activity. Also the fact that the symptoms after sexual activity appear very gradually and last for at least two weeks or more for me, made it less obvious to recognise where they come from.
At some point I began tracking the link to sexual activity and my complaints and it became actually very obvious that all my complaints occur after sexual activity.

Some time later I searched for quite some time and discovered about POIS on the internet, about 1½ years ago and read about dr. Waldinger and his research about POIS. I made an appointment with him and he confirmed that I have POIS. He told me that he thinks that POIS might be caused by an allergy to your own sperm and he referred me to an allergologist who did a test and found a reaction to my sperm.
Though I don't think that POIS is caused by an allergy to my own sperm. I discovered that the complaints also occur after sexual activity without having an ejaculation/orgasm.

Since before I knew of POIS, I always suspected that the symptoms that occur after sexual activity might be caused by excessive amounts/deficiencies of neurotransmitters/hormones/other substances.

So after some time now, I decide to go look again if I can find out why I'm suffering from POIS, I'll post about that later.

[deloun]

Welcome Deloun. You have probably the orginal form of POIS described by Dr Waldinger. My opinion is that the auto-immune reaction after orgasm theory is only possible for long case ( at least 5-6 days).
But lot of guys here have symptoms during 3 days.
If orginal POIS is compared to a normal flu, i think it's impossible to get the virus, be ill and be healed in only 3 days.

Dr. Waldinger told me that there are also patients with symptoms that occur for only a few days and that there are patients which suffer for a longer duration. I don't think it's an auto-immune reaction in the form of an allergy to my own sperm causing the symptoms in my case (or maybe any case), but caused by excessive ammounts/deficiencies of neurotransmitters/hormones/other substances instead. Because the symptoms also occur after sexual activity while I don't have an ejaculation/orgasm. Maybe an auto-immune reaction can be an additional consequence of POIS and not the cause. I do believe that there are different variations in the complaints that people suffer from and likewise that there are different variations of the causes.

[deloun]

I've had a bloodtest done about 2 years ago, but only for some vitamins and minerals. It indicated deficiencies of the vitamins B6, folic acid (B9/B11), B12, E and of selenium.

This is the result of the test for vitamins of 2 years ago:


And this is the result of the test for minerals of 2 years ago:


Does anyone else here with POIS symptoms have such deficiencies?

I'm planning to go to an endocrinologist and have a more extensive bloodtest done, this time besides for vitamins and minerals also for neurotransmitters and hormones.

[demografx]

(1) too much sugar is very very bad!!!

(2) in South Africa there is a drink that helps with this called Lucozade:

It consist primarily of Glucose.

hk1979: I thought Glucose _is_ sugar!!!???

You are right that glucose is in sugar, but not 100%. Sugar as we know it, is called Sucrose.

Your body still need to change it into Glucose. Glucose and Fructose is better to take directly. They are used for body electrolyte recharge.

Diabetes will fall ill when taking sugar, but it is OK for them to take Fructose, as Fructose is called the LOW GI sugar. It doesn't give that spike, therefor it also doesn't have that sugar crash :-)

My psychotherapist, who has worked in hospitals with dying patients, insists that sugar, even in excess, is fine for most people. Can I give her any EVIDENCE that this is wrong?