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There was no reaction at all to the questionnaire being posted, after sooo much work. And only one person has even filled it out. This is the key to getting help ...
beta blockers : apart from imre1 (Emconcor / bisoprolol) and Counterpoints (Nadolol), anyone else tried or trying these?
I'm embarrassed to say that my prejudice comes from the fact that if it were psychosomatic (which I used to believe exclusively), then I - with all my considerable willpower, strength, intelligence, etc. - can't bear to admit that I have been unable to unravel my POIS - in fact not even make a dent! - after 30 years of strenuous effort, including psych meds, over-the-top exercise, and marathon talk therapy! In addition, I endlessly chased numerous "spiritual" paths and practitioners...to no avail. So....if the Great Unlicensed Doctor (me) couldn't cure my own POIS with a frontal attack on anything psychological/spiritual, "how could it be psychosomatic"? Make sense?As Counterpoints states, we should be open to any and all possibilities of POIS development and cure. At this stage, I'll even consider aliens from UFO's having conducted wild experiments on us pre-natally with a cure of Kryptonite!
Quote from: Counterpoints on 02/09/2008 05:10:46There was no reaction at all to the questionnaire being posted, after sooo much work. And only one person has even filled it out. This is the key to getting help ...Hi Counterpoints, Took a brief look at the questionaire the day after you posted the link and thought it looked very comprehensive. Great attention to detail which must have taken plenty of effort; sincere thanks for that. I've started working on my answers (will cut/paste into questionaire when done) but I've had no time to really sit down and do it justice due to recent travel obligations. Is there a way to edit my responses after submission?I wouldn't worry if the early reaction to the questionaire seems slow (this might just be consistent with the way people eventually get around to posting an extended amount of information when they are feeling up to it).May I suggest that the link is reposted here on a regular basis (perhaps so that it appears at least once on each page of TNS posts).I've modified the signature on my TNS account to advertise it, but I may not post frequently enough (and I suspect that new TNS accounts don't display other users signatures by default).Thanks again for your efforts!
John21, and Counterpoints, thank you very much for shedding more light on the psychosomatic.I'm embarrassed to say that my prejudice comes from the fact that if it were psychosomatic (which I used to believe exclusively), then I - with all my considerable willpower, strength, intelligence, etc. - can't bear to admit that I have been unable to unravel my POIS - in fact not even make a dent! - after 30 years of strenuous effort, including psych meds, over-the-top exercise, and marathon talk therapy! In addition, I endlessly chased numerous "spiritual" paths and practitioners...to no avail. So....if the Great Unlicensed Doctor (me) couldn't cure my own POIS with a frontal attack on anything psychological/spiritual, "how could it be psychosomatic"? Make sense?As Counterpoints states, we should be open to any and all possibilities of POIS development and cure. At this stage, I'll even consider aliens from UFO's having conducted wild experiments on us pre-natally with a cure of Kryptonite!
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Hi, 3 concepts in this post:1.- information gathering: I read about many topics, ideas and diets and I think that it should be centralized in some place. For a newcomer and a longterm visitor we don`t have a place to skim through and a reference of terms on which we/you operate (I dont know many of them - and have to look them up in a dict ... repeatedly . If there is an interest in this Idea - we could set up some place or make a research on tools to gather the knowledge in an accessible way (like wiki or wikia for example). Please tell me what you think about that.2.- garlic: yesterday I had an orgasm unshielded by garlic diet. Results are as follows: lighter brain fog (due to a better diet probably), stiffnes in neck as always and usual symptoms like backpains and bowel pains. I work in IT and feel the effects of pois overwhelmingly at my daily job. since the garlic diet its much lighter. there is a real change in the attitude actually, I feel much more hopeful after that garlic invention and wanted to share it with you 3.- diet: I have to tell you that I recently added fresh citruses to my diet - I feel much much better after eating them, I have much more energy! (they dont react with POIS directly thou)good luck.James
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that I'm in agreement with everyone, i.e., POIS is largely physical, and not in the least psychologically rooted - ALTHOUGH early psychological trauma may have contributed to its development.
QUESTION: Does anyone else feel that POIS symptoms are "otherworldly"? Don't write me off as a UFO nutcase, I mean that my POIS symptoms are unlike anything else I experience in life, e.g., the exhaustion is a "special" kind of exhaustion only experienced after orgasm; my burning fingertips are surreal and drive me crazy and I don't know why; my "disconnect" with my surroundings are, as well, unlike other periods of social and other withdrawal.Would be curious to know if any of you also feel that POIS presents uniquely felt symptoms.
As for the trauma aspect, it's my experience and observation that early psychological trauma can cause both psychological AND physical damage to the body. STRESS IS BOTH TOXIC AND DAMAGING to a physical organism, (the effects of spikes in cortisol can damage brain cells), and being abused in any way is undoubtedly stressful. Some people resolve their issues and heal more quickly from abuse than others; and some perpetuate it by medicating themselves with various addictions, both substance and behavior addictions (to numb/avoid their pain), which can damage them even more. So, seen in this light, even type 2 diabetes could possibly be considered the result of early trauma--abuse leading to stress, leading to food addiction, up to the point that it endsup as a physical disease.
Perhaps that's one of our missions on this forum--to come up with a solid description of the surrealness of this malady.
Thanks much for that, girlwind. I'm suspecting more and more that I'm still a victim, 50 years later, of early psychological abuse (e.g., "sex is dirty")and brutal corporal punishment - all perpetuated by religious teachers who ran sadistically wild, and unchecked, in the '50s. And, as you point out, I'm one of those who hasn't resolved issues and healed quickly, in spite of decades of psychotherapy and psych meds. Hope I don't sound much like a whiner. If I do, don't tell me []