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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3020 on: 21/01/2009 23:33:23 »
Quote from: underwater on 21/01/2009 23:30:12
Artosophy--
Isn't it great to discover fellow sufferers? This forum will make you feel better, even if it's just a little, tiny bit. Every nugget helps. This is an optimistic bandwagon. Its synergy is definitely bigger than its individual parts.

I salute you for your perseverence. I had an absolutely terrible time in my mid 20's-
But I came out of it. Now I'm coming out of another lousy 20 months.

Excellent, compassionate members here and a very conscientious moderator. Good Luck.

Really nice of you to say, Underwater!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3021 on: 21/01/2009 23:35:07 »
Forum tech disruptions

Everyone is frustrated, I've written complaints.

For now, hitting the "Refresh" button is all I can suggest! [:(]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3022 on: 21/01/2009 23:42:14 »
Quote from: underwater on 21/01/2009 23:30:12

Isn't it great to discover fellow sufferers?


30+ years alone in the wilderness, "rejected" by doctor upon therapist, I thought I was the only one in the world with whatever-that-ugly-4-day-episode-is (POIS).
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3023 on: 21/01/2009 23:46:45 »
Quote from: John21 on 21/01/2009 23:13:40

Admirable open mindedness   [:)]


Thanks, John. Mutual admiration!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3024 on: 22/01/2009 00:02:51 »
Demo, me too------
For years I thought I was the only one. It's hard to really know how a fellow sufferer feels, but I guess I got by because it (POIS) was tolerable misery.
I considered myself a victim of an absurd hoax, punished for doing something natural and enjoyable. Since technology has been available a long time, I have forever hunted for answers, especially since google, typing in all sorts of key words. I remember Waldinger's "description" a few years ago. I actually heard it first on T.V.. Remember, everyone laughed and discounted it on the internet? That wasn't good.
The weird thing has been that when I'm feeling great and on top of the world (no GAD), happy and energetic, calm and confident, no POIS for a couple of months, I think, "you know, I'm free, it won't happen this time"-----WRONG----Curses, Spoiled Again
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3025 on: 22/01/2009 00:31:09 »
Quote from: underwater on 22/01/2009 00:02:51

Remember, everyone laughed and discounted [POIS] on the internet? That wasn't good.


WOW. I really didn't know that. I'm glad I didn't see that! (My head was in the sand back then) My insecurities about "it's only me and my [highly questionable] POIS" would've blossomed and I would've retreated to "See? There's no hope!"

Quote from: underwater on 22/01/2009 00:02:51

"you know, I'm free, it won't happen this time"-----WRONG----Curses, Spoiled Again


EVERY SINGLE TIME...I told myself the same thing: "This time it will be different" (btw, = the definition of insanity).

My stupidity? Nah. Just extreme denial.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3026 on: 22/01/2009 00:35:17 »
Quote from: underwater on 22/01/2009 00:02:51

I considered myself a victim of an absurd hoax, punished for doing something natural and enjoyable.


For a long time, I considered myself a "guilty party" getting his just rewards. From early religious teachings.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3027 on: 22/01/2009 01:54:40 »
Today I had my follow up with the CFS doctor/endocrinologist. Here's the scoop.

My MULTI BLOOD TEST RESULTS indicate that I am LOW in almost all the hormones I've tested, or at best
in the lower range of normal. This includes thyroid (of course)---even after the three months of Ashwaghanda
supplementation, it is still NOT OPTIMAL. Cortisol also, still too low. Testosterone, DHEA, estrogen--all too low.
I am supposed to begin a bio-identical hormone treatment as soon as I can get the prescriptions filled. I will start
with thyroid and cortisol first.

This doctor's take about my POIS was that it's not possible to conclude right now EXACTLY what would be causing the
fatigue after orgasm--due to the fact that I have so many hormones in a NON-optimal range. So no definitive answers
on that yet. We'll see what happens... I will definitely keep you posted.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3028 on: 22/01/2009 05:22:35 »
operation concentration did not succeed - I had to super force myself to focus in classes.
Memory seems to be still shaken
I was able to conversate though but without any jokes but that was cool.
I was able to feel that high you get from exercise.
 
ON NE good luck with that.
I tried sleeping using a  bottle but brain orgasm will get yah.

How does five hour energy shot feel during POIS
I used it once(decaf) during pois. It made me talk all day but didn't fix memory problems and concentration. 
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3029 on: 22/01/2009 05:40:23 »
Girlwind - Telling results!  Does that mean something - all your hormones were below normal?  I've taken several hormone tests and...they've all been moderately below normal too.  I get prolactin results back tomorrow...I'll share them.

I also remember reading Demo's results were all below normal.

Can anyone else here relate?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3030 on: 22/01/2009 05:56:17 »
Well I am about to finish my THIRD bottle of Relora (each last one month if you take three per day).  I have had an orgasm about everyday! Also, I never had that "craving" or empty feeling that I used to after orgasm that made me want to keep doing it over and over and over. 

I can control myself now.  When I get the urge I do it, that simple. I have tried abstaining; It's not that hard. But after a day or two the urge becomes strong and I eventually have an orgasm.

The MOST AMAZING part is that during the past three months I have NOT, THANK GOD!!!!, NOT felt the kind of mental depression and misery that I used to feel.  I don't know if I am now acting "normal," because I forgot how that used to feel after 5 or 6 years of such horrible separation from "normal." But I feel great and at peace with myself for once. I no longer worry about the effects of orgasm.

Also, Iam not sure if it is good that I am so dependent on Relora.  If I had enough money I would buy enough to last me the rest of my life. :)

I can't be sure that Relora is the cause; It could be a placebo? or even the vitamins I take daily.  All I know is that I DONT feel how I used to after orgasm.  THERE IS HOPE FOR ALL!!!!!!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3031 on: 22/01/2009 05:58:36 »
Forgot to mention... Caffine from Mountain Dews does have a noticable effect.  I am not sure to what extent, but it seems that caffine and Relora don't mix well.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3032 on: 22/01/2009 07:39:07 »
Quote from: pyropeach on 21/01/2009 08:42:41
I used to use DMAE long before finding this forum. It didn't seem to combat the POIS, but rather just give me a little mental boost to fight the brain-fog...kinda like how cold medicine just masks the symptoms of the cold.

Sounds great to me. Time to quadruple my DMAE dosage.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3033 on: 22/01/2009 15:01:02 »
Quote from: tarkington on 22/01/2009 05:56:17
Well I am about to finish my THIRD bottle of Relora (each last one month if you take three per day).  I have had an orgasm about everyday! Also, I never had that "craving" or empty feeling that I used to after orgasm that made me want to keep doing it over and over and over. 

I can control myself now.  When I get the urge I do it, that simple. I have tried abstaining; It's not that hard. But after a day or two the urge becomes strong and I eventually have an orgasm.

The MOST AMAZING part is that during the past three months I have NOT, THANK GOD!!!!, NOT felt the kind of mental depression and misery that I used to feel.  I don't know if I am now acting "normal," because I forgot how that used to feel after 5 or 6 years of such horrible separation from "normal." But I feel great and at peace with myself for once. I no longer worry about the effects of orgasm.

Also, Iam not sure if it is good that I am so dependent on Relora.  If I had enough money I would buy enough to last me the rest of my life. :)

I can't be sure that Relora is the cause; It could be a placebo? or even the vitamins I take daily.  All I know is that I DONT feel how I used to after orgasm.  THERE IS HOPE FOR ALL!!!!!!

Tarkington--
Could the plant extracts that constitute Relora serve as a sedative or relaxant that has blunted the "craving" you talk about?  It sounds like the compulsiveness to engage in a certain behaviour significantly diminishes. Could the extracts in Relora act as a type of inhibitory mechanism to balance out whatever may cause compulsive behaviour and the resultant depression. I have a bottle or Relora on my desk, but I have not tried it yet.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3034 on: 22/01/2009 15:34:24 »
Quote from: CCconfucius on 22/01/2009 05:22:35
operation concentration did not succeed - I had to super force myself to focus in classes.
Memory seems to be still shaken
I was able to conversate though but without any jokes but that was cool.
I was able to feel that high you get from exercise.
 
ON NE good luck with that.
I tried sleeping using a  bottle but brain orgasm will get yah.

How does five hour energy shot feel during POIS
I used it once(decaf) during pois. It made me talk all day but didn't fix memory problems and concentration. 

CCconfucius, sorry you didn't have better results, but I love the name "Operation Concentration" [:)]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3035 on: 22/01/2009 15:44:02 »
Quote from: tarkington on 22/01/2009 05:56:17
Well I am about to finish my THIRD bottle of Relora (each last one month if you take three per day).  I have had an orgasm about everyday! Also, I never had that "craving" or empty feeling that I used to after orgasm that made me want to keep doing it over and over and over. 

I can control myself now.  When I get the urge I do it, that simple. I have tried abstaining; It's not that hard. But after a day or two the urge becomes strong and I eventually have an orgasm.

The MOST AMAZING part is that during the past three months I have NOT, THANK GOD!!!!, NOT felt the kind of mental depression and misery that I used to feel.  I don't know if I am now acting "normal," because I forgot how that used to feel after 5 or 6 years of such horrible separation from "normal." But I feel great and at peace with myself for once. I no longer worry about the effects of orgasm.

Also, Iam not sure if it is good that I am so dependent on Relora.  If I had enough money I would buy enough to last me the rest of my life. :)

I can't be sure that Relora is the cause; It could be a placebo? or even the vitamins I take daily.  All I know is that I DONT feel how I used to after orgasm.  THERE IS HOPE FOR ALL!!!!!!

Tarkington, great news! Don't worry about "Relora forever", a solution will become apparent eventually.

And if it's a placebo, enjoy it [:D]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3036 on: 22/01/2009 15:54:45 »
Quote from: tarkington on 22/01/2009 05:58:36
Forgot to mention... Caffine from Mountain Dews does have a noticable effect.  I am not sure to what extent, but it seems that caffine and Relora don't mix well.

My only concern with relora is that pharmacies don't have it in their "interaction effects" system so it's hard to tell what it's bad to mix with, Rx or OTC. Some previous posts about relora:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=relora+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fthenakedscientists.com&aq=f&oq=
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3037 on: 22/01/2009 16:19:43 »
Quote from: Limejuice on 22/01/2009 05:40:23

I also remember reading Demo's results were all below normal.


Limejuice, the testosterone was low and prolactin was sky-high.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3038 on: 22/01/2009 16:21:39 »
Quote from: Pro on 22/01/2009 07:39:07

Time to quadruple my DMAE dosage.


Pro, I hope you're careful and getting good health care advice!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #3039 on: 22/01/2009 16:46:34 »
Quote from: underwater on 22/01/2009 15:01:02
Quote from: tarkington on 22/01/2009 05:56:17
Well I am about to finish my THIRD bottle of Relora (each last one month if you take three per day).  I have had an orgasm about everyday! Also, I never had that "craving" or empty feeling that I used to after orgasm that made me want to keep doing it over and over and over. 


Tarkington--
Could the plant extracts that constitute Relora serve as a sedative or relaxant that has blunted the "craving" you talk about?  It sounds like the compulsiveness to engage in a certain behaviour significantly diminishes. Could the extracts in Relora act as a type of inhibitory mechanism to balance out whatever may cause compulsive behaviour and the resultant depression. I have a bottle or Relora on my desk, but I have not tried it yet.


underwater,
Relora definitely acts to relax me throughout the day. For me the relaxation is not that strong.

With regards to orgasm, it seems that Relora prevents a high release of cortisol after orgasm.  The craving that I was referring to was always present after I felt a "buring warmth" in my body following orgasm which has been associated with the release of chemicals -- its hard to describe, but after that happened I felt compelled to have another orgasm.  That is the craving I was refering to.  Relora has gotten rid of that craving. My libido or sexual energy does not seem to be affected by Relora.  I still maintain a high sexual drive.

So it's interesting to see that I was addicted to having an orgasm after an orgasm, but Relora has gotten rid of that addictive behavior that I felt.
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