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message from pois sufferer who fixed problem sounds eerily similar to Demografx situation
Congratulations to anonymous sufferer. I'm happy when some of us improve his condition. But i'm worried because there are so many meds in this treatment.Don't forget :- A bloodtest must prove the deficiency is real.- [medical professional cooperation] Only serious doctor take the decision to use these supplements. - Adrenals should be cured before thryoid. - Young Pois sufferers (under 30 years old) really should try natural therapy before hormones therapy. (diet ) . Young sufferers have a chance to self-restore their bodies. Sometime the organ is not ill but only tired by a bad lifestyle (diet, stress,...) Even if Pois may justify Dhea supplmenetation it shouldn't be taken under 35 years old. - Hormones therapy side-effect : When you use hormones the organ becomes "lazy" and stop to make his job. Remember the experience i posted with corticoids spray for allergic rhinitis. I prefer Agjchs approach : he takes only 12mg Dhea after orgasm. Not every day.But of course, some of us have a severe condition and Pois appears as a consequence of this.
Quote from: CCconfucius on 26/01/2009 02:32:183rd: Hcg+Hmg+Toco-8 plus increase of protein and less carbs, more red meat, fish and lots of cruciferous vegetables ie broccoli (Successful)at the risk of sounding ignorant what are Hcg, Hmg, and Toco 8?
3rd: Hcg+Hmg+Toco-8 plus increase of protein and less carbs, more red meat, fish and lots of cruciferous vegetables ie broccoli (Successful)
NE, day 1: I am somewhat affected (with POIS) this time, as opposed to my previous NE episodes. What is different? I recently temporarily changed up my diet, giving up "goiterogenic" foods that I routinely eat: soy and broccoli. This could be relevant...but, soy is also high in choline....I just realized that fenugreek has choline in it. I am wondering, has anyone tried choline as a supplement?
deloun---Thanks for your response. Tension, Nervousness (anxiety), Depression, Insomnia are also some of my main symptoms during POIS; different I think from the dominant symptoms of Extreme, Debilitating Fatigue and Major Inability to Focus/Concentrate. My anxiety disorder (when I have an active episode) creates the same symptoms as POIS, but it is never defined in a 3-4 day time frame as is POIS. Since my symptoms are the same, when I rid myself of "anxiety disorder" this time around (whenever the hell that is), I hope that my strategies can be applied to POIS. If my neurotransmitter focus fails, then I will have to refocus with more attention probably paid to hormones. I'm very reticent to discuss specific experiments, because I don't think it's beneficial unless I can say with confidence that something helps me. In general, I'm experimenting with vitamins, minerals, amino acids, plant extracts, body hydration, exercise, breathing, and topical creams.
would toco-8 be tocopherol aka vitamin E ?
Other things that I've noticed that have helped reducing the POIS symptoms are taking a shower while alternating with very hot and very cold water and going to the sauna, including cooling down with each round in a cold water bath or cold shower.Are there others that have noticed that this has helped a bit with their symptoms?Taking the shower with alternating hot and cold water can easily be tried at home, maybe it's worth a try and I would be curious if others notice a positive effect too. So if you decide to try it out, would you be so kind to let it know? Maybe it can tell something useful about POIS. One of the things that seem to occur as a consequence of the hot and cold stress to the body are the increase of blood flow and energy to organs and the increase of dopamine and noradrenaline available in the brain.
I am somewhat affected (with POIS) this time, as opposed to my previous NE episodes.
Quote from: mister_z on 27/01/2009 10:49:23Quote from: CCconfucius on 26/01/2009 02:32:183rd: Hcg+Hmg+Toco-8 plus increase of protein and less carbs, more red meat, fish and lots of cruciferous vegetables ie broccoli (Successful)at the risk of sounding ignorant what are Hcg, Hmg, and Toco 8?mister_z, not ignorant at all! This is another reason it would be nice for CCconfucius' "anonymous sufferer" to come forward.I certainly would like to ask him, too! All I could find on hcg is, "Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) is a glycoprotein hormone produced in pregnancy that is made by the embryo soon after conception..."
Girlwind, you said that you haven't tested for prolactin, but maybe it could help you? This new article states, similarly to the one below, "We found that CFS subjects show a higher prolactin response than controls..."http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/iop/prt/cfs.htmmy original post to you (first article):PROLACTIN AND CFSGirlwind and other CFS-affected individuals here: this seemed like an intriguing link. It requires only simple registration, but here is the Google description:"Baseline prolactin levels were the same in all three groups, but rose much faster and higher in the patients with CFS than in the other two groups after ..." http://general-medicine.jwatch.org/cgi/content/full/1992/512/6
The point of me posting the response is to show that we all need to get our hormones checked and to proceed with our unique results. I was just giving clue about some of the things we should ask doctor. I was not using to suggest any treatment i was hoping your doctors will be the one making the best decision on that. Like B-jim said younger people might have to take a different route in using dhea and i agree i have seen the result of trying to take dhea without guidiance. That post was a reference not the sure way.
Several months ago I requested many laboratory blood and urine tests and went to an orthomolecular doctor and one of the things she diagnosed is that I have a poor methylation. Choline plays a vital role in methylation.