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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7460 on: 29/04/2010 05:03:44 »
Quote from: demografx on 28/04/2010 19:08:39
Quote from: Limejuice on 28/04/2010 18:25:40

Did someone discover a 'cure' for NE's?  I recall someone posting success for a month while taking a curtain drug.

I have a doctors appointment in a couple hours about NE's.  Please let me know.


What I recall is 1) antidepressants (they can mitigate desire), and 2) at sleeptime, lying on the couch a certain way:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=NE+nocturnal+emission+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fthenakedscientists.com&rlz=1W1DAUS_en&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=9118ce00d2daff08
 
 

yeah ssris are the only thing i know to work, But i believe what limejuice is refering to is Low dose naltrexone, lauracostisis reported that it helped reduce his nocturnal emission to once about five weeks but i talked to him aboutit and he said it has returned to once in about 2 to 3 weeks.

I do several things to reduce nocturnal emissions but not hundred percent sure if it works because of stupid brain orgasms they keep me from healing. 

I sleep on my side with very big pants
I dont over eat, avoid oily foods, eat atleast five hours before bed
Dont drink to much water during day, avoid drinking water at least five hours before bed.
Before going to sleep i watch movie or read a book just to influence my dream

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7461 on: 29/04/2010 17:38:43 »
POIS=Neurotransmitters deficiency. (Except for those with already existing disorders such as low T; adrenal exhaustion; Autoimmune ect....)

Replenish them using natural MAOIs and SSRIs such as the herb St.John Warts and others......and you should be more than fine with time....

I was about to be much more elaborate.....but my PC froze and have blown it up.....

Later,

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7462 on: 29/04/2010 17:58:50 »
B_Jim, thank you for a sober reflection on the interaction effect of medications, supplements and BP!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7463 on: 29/04/2010 18:41:49 »
Sorry B_Jim....didn't notice your address withregard to St. John Worts.....as to answer you....MAOIs or antidepressants are not like magic pills....they take lots of time for them to work (4 weeks and more).....so yes ur symptoms won't disappear hands on since your neuros need time to replenish....in addition i recommend adding other similar herbs to ur arsenal....google antidepressant herbs,,,,u will find plenty of them...hope this helps....

On the other hand Iam a Jr. member now!  [;D]
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7464 on: 29/04/2010 19:14:28 »
Z_one, congrats!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7465 on: 29/04/2010 21:32:20 »
Quote from: Z_one on 29/04/2010 17:38:43

POIS=Neurotransmitters deficiency.        (Except for those with already existing disorders such as low T; adrenal exhaustion; Autoimmune ect....)


Z_one, very interesting theory, but is there any evidence for this equation?


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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7466 on: 29/04/2010 21:57:39 »
Quote from: Z_one on 29/04/2010 18:41:49
.....MAOIs or antidepressants are not like magic pills....they take lots of time for them to work (4 weeks and more).....so yes ur symptoms won't disappear hands on since your neuros need time to replenish....in addition i recommend adding other similar herbs to ur arsenal....google antidepressant herbs,,,,u will find plenty of them...hope this helps....

On the other hand Iam a Jr. member now!  [;D]

Unfortunately I personally can't take anti-dpressants, or at least some kinds. I tried one once and just about went out of my mind. Had a real strange anxiety type reaction. I just wanted to get out of my skin. Fortunatley I'm not normally depressive.

I did take Prozac once quite a while ago when I was under a lot of stress and work depression, and I have to admit, it worked real well, as you say, over a period of 4 wks. (not for POIS though this time). Perhaps there are different types. You mention MAOIs, I don't know what that is. or SSRIs.

The POIS/neurotransmitter analogy sounds a lot like fibromyalgia. I tend to feel that there is someting to that. And there are a lot of similarities. A sort of pain and nerve transmission disorder which confuses, and creates false signals.

But like the blood-pressure issue, which comes first, the chicken or the egg!!??
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7467 on: 29/04/2010 22:18:37 »
Something of concern:

There are people post comments on Girlwind's POIS Youtube video about not receiving a confirmation e-mail from the Naked Science forum, and thus not being able to register and share their experiences/ask questions/converse.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7468 on: 30/04/2010 01:36:58 »
Quote from: Limejuice on 28/04/2010 20:41:26
Hi GoingCrazy,

How long have you taken zinc?  Did you stop taking it at all, and do you still take it now?

Thanks

I've been taking it for about a month, after my parents had seen the white spots on my fingernails that usually indicate a zinc deficiency in the body.  I took it about 2 weeks before the day I felt non-symptomatic, I've been taking it about another two weeks after that and still feel good.  I have not stopped taking it.

But "O" does still make me feel tired.  Like I lose all motivation the next day.  No motivation to make friends or even try when I play a sport.  I think that their is a real down-side still to this masturbation/porn thing.  The first being guilt, and the second being the dopamine/prolactin connection after "O".  But all of my other symptoms have vanished, I'm just really tired after I "O" for about a day.  I'd substitute this feeling for that feeling that I used to have any day.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7469 on: 30/04/2010 03:44:06 »
Quote from: Dean93 on 29/04/2010 22:18:37

Something of concern:

There are people post comments on Girlwind's POIS Youtube video about not receiving a confirmation e-mail from the Naked Science forum, and thus not being able to register and share their experiences/ask questions/converse.


Thanks, Dean! I'll pass this along to the right people.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7470 on: 30/04/2010 12:32:20 »
Guys read this link very carefully and you will understand why POIS is the result of Neuros deficiency...http://cure-erectile-dysfunction.org/symptoms-of-sexual-exhaustion

I quote : "As a result of all of the above, sexual exhaustion produces multiple symptoms, which will become UFO for the doctors, failing to identify the root of the problems".<----Couldn't be more true...that's exactly what POIS is!

And no I am not saying that POIS is sexual exhaustion....but pure neuros deficiency or depletion if you will!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7471 on: 30/04/2010 14:32:10 »
Quote from: Z_one on 30/04/2010 12:32:20

Guys read this link very carefully and you will understand why POIS is the result of Neuro[trasmitter]s deficiency...
http://cure-erectile-dysfunction.org/symptoms-of-sexual-exhaustion


What are the credentials of this author, a "Dr" M. (no full first name shown?) Richards, a "urologist" (no MD?). An MD education is required to call oneself a urologist, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urology 

And it seems highly unlikely that a urologist would be aligned with a health-supplement business.

On the article author, I found nothing at all about him (her?) on Google. Usually, there are multiple Google  listings from one or more data collection/reporting services on health practitioners. At least for any one of the many I've visited over the years.

The website sells health-supplement products, to "cure" the ailments that they write about. A red-flag conflict of interest that casts serious doubt in my mind about any articles they write.

Last, when I clicked on the website's "About Us" section, a very terse, nondescriptive 2-liner came up, witten by "Anonymous".
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7472 on: 30/04/2010 15:01:52 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 30/04/2010 08:31:28

Z_one : anyway, neurotransmitters and especially catecholamines are still a very good possibility to explain some symtoms like lack of concentration.


B_Jim, please understand that my deep skepticism about the "Dr Richards" article does not invalidate the concept of neurotransmitters-and-POIS in my mind. I just think we need to be much more cautious about our information sources.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7473 on: 30/04/2010 17:03:30 »

copy-paste!!!  [;D] [;D] [;D]

Brilliant substitution work.

Thanks for giving me the first good smile of the day!!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7474 on: 30/04/2010 20:36:01 »
To log results I've stopped the following because no positive results were seen:

- Stawberries
- Alexander Technique
- Obstaining from aluminum products
- Progesterone


I'm trying Zinc.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7475 on: 01/05/2010 00:22:01 »

Limejuice, many thanks for pushing forward...and reporting!
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7476 on: 01/05/2010 02:17:28 »
going crazy how much opti zinc and which company do you use in a day. I ask what company because you know herd market is not regulated.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7477 on: 01/05/2010 19:13:45 »
Quote from: demografx on 30/04/2010 14:32:10
Quote from: Z_one on 30/04/2010 12:32:20

Guys read this link very carefully and you will understand why POIS is the result of Neuro[trasmitter]s deficiency...
http://cure-erectile-dysfunction.org/symptoms-of-sexual-exhaustion


What are the credentials of this author, a "Dr" M. (no full first name shown?) Richards, a "urologist" (no MD?). An MD education is required to call oneself a urologist, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urology 

And it seems highly unlikely that a urologist would be aligned with a health-supplement business.

On the article author, I found nothing at all about him (her?) on Google. Usually, there are multiple Google  listings from one or more data collection/reporting services on health practitioners. At least for any one of the many I've visited over the years.

The website sells health-supplement products, to "cure" the ailments that they write about. A red-flag conflict of interest that casts serious doubt in my mind about any articles they write.

Last, when I clicked on the website's "About Us" section, a very terse, nondescriptive 2-liner came up, witten by "Anonymous".


The goal was not to point out @ the credentials of the author but @ the neuro-transmitters deficiency theory.....and this article explains it extremely well from a biological angle.....

In addition, if you examine the website of the "International society of sexual medecine" and search for POIS you will notice that all the doctors point out directly or indirectly to neuros deficiency through ADD/ Anxiety disorder/ Antidepressants....ect.... That in addition to many similar remarks posted on this forum....

Finally, again credibility is relative to each person....for me no one has provided me with a concrete straight forward answer nor explanation so far....therefore following tons of reading and research and endless back and forths to endos, uros, and neuros....even my own personal conclusions point out to neuros deficiency.....since auto-immune, STD's and hormonal imbalance are pre-existing disorders & are ruled out by simple elimination....the Neuro-Parasympathic system is the only feasible biological option that can and is still under the spot light.....naturally you're free to think otherwise.....but keep in mind that what we are dealing with is not like Mathematics...so there's no simple equation....it's more or less like trying to point out at a rare never seen kind of fish within a whole Ocean! This is how vague to doctors and sufferers POIS has been so far!

As to confirm even more the neuros deficiency...I would like to report again huge improvements using herbal MAOIs & SSRIS on a constant basis....thx God it seems my brain neuros are replenishing quickly....and Im lovin' it!

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7478 on: 01/05/2010 20:11:34 »
Quote from: CCconfucius on 01/05/2010 02:17:28
going crazy how much opti zinc and which company do you use in a day. I ask what company because you know herd market is not regulated.


The Zinc I take is made by the company, Healthy Balance,  it is called L Optizinc,  the container I bought contains 100 zinc tablets of 20 mg of zinc per tablet.  I take about 2 a day, sometimes 3, sometimes 1.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #7479 on: 01/05/2010 20:25:34 »
According to http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/607065/zinc_a_healthy_amount_promotes_a_healthy.html?cat=5  and  http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/health-products/zinc/356023/     -----

"Zinc is an essential mineral needed for the production of testosterone,"  (demo?)  ,"It regulates the stuff down there, contributing to normal sperm counts and the regulation of your sex drive."

"A lack of Zinc results in a non-existent sex drive, low sperm counts, and lessened fertility."

"Provided that you want a healthy sex life, you'll want to up your zinc intake."

Listed foods rich in Zinc:


- Seafood
- Chicken
- Beef
- Lamb
- Oysters (yes, oysters really are an aphrodisiac!)   [:0]
- Brown rice
- Oatmeal
- Pecans
- Cashews
- Peanut butter
- Cheddar cheese
- Milk

"Zinc is one of the most important trace elements in our diets, and is required by the body for more than 200 enzyme activities. It is the principal protector of the immune system..."

"A weakened immune system and a poor ability to heal may also indicate a Zinc deficiency."

"it can help to detoxify the body. Treats acne and various other skin problems such as cirrhosis. Zinc is particularly important for the healthy function of the reproductive organs  [:0] and prostrate gland - it is also useful for helping increase male potency and sex drive!"



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