[Starsky]

Quasar, do you have some problems with your lymph nodes? I think, even when I am out of POIS i have some feeling that with my lymph nodes something wrong is. They are some times small, then getting bigger, then smaller. I cant find a answer why is it happening so.

[Starsky]

My question is: could POIS lead by some sufferers to viral reactivation of a dormant virus, like EBV?

[Quasar]

My question is: could POIS lead by some sufferers to viral reactivation of a dormant virus, like EBV?

Could be..it's hard to tell. Some people who have EBV and Chronic Fatigue take antivirals for months and years. I suppose there are tests to check the quantity of antibodies pre-pois and post-pois. You can also talk to your doctor and start taking antivirals to see if they improve Pois.

[Starsky]

Have you tried some antivirals?

[Quasar]

Have you tried some antivirals?

Nope, never...I have a big list of meds to try, LOL.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Question from other forum applicable to Uk Doctors;


Do they think about others therapies to cure? (intra lymphatic, sublingual, and so on...)

Sublingual seems to be more standard as an allergy treatment in the EU than in the U.S., is the dilution normally the same to start out with as subcutaneous?  Recommended frequency for sublingual?

why dosent the most powerfull of all immune suppresant(cortisteroids) help pois?

Why is it that some of us get rush of energy when recovering?

Why do i get pois with just sex dreams?

Could Pois destroy brain cells since the immune system is attacking the body?

[CertainlyPOIS]

Have you tried some antivirals?

Nope, never...I have a big list of meds to try, LOL.

you might want to check out dapoxetine, mat780 said it helped him alot.  it is a short term ssri. may be it also increases peripheral serotonin

[Habibou]

We should eat more chocolate to increase peripheral serotonin /tryptophan !  []

Guthrie, when would be the study done? and more info?

What kind of tests  would they try to do?

[Quasar]

We should eat more chocolate to increase peripheral serotonin /tryptophan !  []

Guthrie, when would be the study done? and more info?

What kind of tests  would they try to do?

LOL, guess what? Some time ago, while i was in a typical POIS day (low energy, etc.), i ate a dark chocolate cake and drank a natural orange juice at the same time (vitamin C), and 15 mins. later i felt soooo good! It may have been the tryptophan. I felt better than in 10 years! It was impressive. But it only lasted 30 mins. aprox.

[Quasar]

Have you tried some antivirals?

Nope, never...I have a big list of meds to try, LOL.

you might want to check out dapoxetine, mat780 said it helped him alot.  it is a short term ssri. may be it also increases peripheral serotonin

I haven't had a very good experience with SSRIs. I was under Cymbalta for 6 months, and, while it helped my mood, it stopped working when i left it. I think i had more POIS symptoms post-Cymbalta than pre-Cymbalta. I think SSRIs deplete peripheral serotonin levels, and they are not usually considered the best preventive migraine medication.

My list to try at this time is (in order of priority):

Niacin (the easiest to try), 5htp/tryptophan + Niacin, Nebivolol, Serotonin Antagonists, MAOIs, oh, and testosterone, of course.

[Willem]

Very interesting article on allergies and irritants:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903480904576510302458640840.html

"Because the IgE reaction isn't involved in vasomotor rhinitis, antihistamines and other over-the-counter allergy medications aren't very effective, nor are allergy shots. But nasal steroid sprays such as Flonase and Nasonex can reduce the inflammation and make nasal passages less sensitive. "Half the people who come to me who think they have allergies don't, and they're frustrated because their over-the-counter allergy medications don't work," says Michael Blaiss, an allergist at the University of Tennessee in Memphis and past president of the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology."

Just throwing this out there, but what if some POIS cases are caused by a semen allergy and others by a semen irritation?  That would explain why anti-histamines help some people and not others. 

[demografx]

Interesting, Willem!

[daveman]

My question is: could POIS lead by some sufferers to viral reactivation of a dormant virus, like EBV?

I've got a cold sore that activates maybe once a year, normally in winter. I guess that it doesn't activate too often, means it might not be a good indicator, but POIS doesn't seem to have any effect over it.

[daveman]

Quasar, do you have some problems with your lymph nodes? I think, even when I am out of POIS i have some feeling that with my lymph nodes something wrong is. They are some times small, then getting bigger, then smaller. I cant find a answer why is it happening so.

I wonder. I've noticed too that the lymph nodes sometimes flare up with POIS, like maybe 25% of the time. And your post made me think about it, it seems that they only flare up if the prostate seems to be more inflamed. My protate also seems to inflame sometimes, and it's about the same 25% of the time, and I'd have to say almost coincident.

I have to say that it just might be that those 25% flare-ups are all associated with heavier sessions. It always seems that when the prostate and everything down there is more inflamed, the POIS sessions are, in general, worse.

Lately my sessions have been a fair bit lighter, and almost NO swelling "down there", nor lymph nodes.

[hurray]

I was a little reluctant to post with incomplete results, but I have tried niacin (250mg) before O twice now, and it does a lot to alleviate my symptoms. For now, the 250mg seems to be enough to give me the flush. I would say that compared to nothing, it reduces my symptoms (mostly cognitive brain fog) by about 60-70%.

So far I have only tried it on its own - normally, I would take a dose of fenugreek before and after O. It will be interesting to try niacin in combination with fenugreek, and I will do this at some point, but I thought it would be more "scientific" to let niacin do its work without any assistance.

So, mark up another success for niacin! I hope it proves effective in the long-term as well as the short-term.

[victor.kons]

I was a little reluctant to post with incomplete results, but I have tried niacin (250mg) before O twice now, and it does a lot to alleviate my symptoms. For now, the 250mg seems to be enough to give me the flush. I would say that compared to nothing, it reduces my symptoms (mostly cognitive brain fog) by about 60-70%.

So far I have only tried it on its own - normally, I would take a dose of fenugreek before and after O. It will be interesting to try niacin in combination with fenugreek, and I will do this at some point, but I thought it would be more "scientific" to let niacin do its work without any assistance.

So, mark up another success for niacin! I hope it proves effective in the long-term as well as the short-term.

Congratulations, hurray!

I hope you will find the long-term solution for yourself to 100% reduce your POIS symptoms.

Victor

[demografx]

Victor, thank you for your encouragement here at POIS thread!

[demografx]

Hurray and Victor, I sent your post to Pyropeach just in case he missed it.

The next POIS Forum Compendium will include Niacin.

Exciting news!

[demografx]

My question is: could POIS lead by some sufferers to viral reactivation of a dormant virus, like EBV?

I've got a cold sore that activates maybe once a year, normally in winter. I guess that it doesn't activate too often, means it might not be a good indicator, but POIS doesn't seem to have any effect over it.

My life was plagued with periodic aphtheous ulcers in the mouth, usually connected to stress or heat. But not since my POIS  testosterone treatment!

However, I do need to be careful in drawing cause and effect conclusions.

[demografx]

I must say it really does boost my confidence knowing there are people sharing ways how to help get better, I mean i dont know if TRT would be best for me, Im on 16 years of age right now and my testosterone levels are good when I cut my sex life for a while. But I mean Im a wrestler and I had a tournament a few months back and I had to wrestle feeling absolutely terrible due to Pois. I took second place, Do i think that if I continued to cut my sex life off i could have taken first in it, Yes i do, I was unable to compete at 100 percent, I was about 50 - 60 percent that day. I wrestled for 7 minutes straight in my toughest match of my career that i won by 1 point in double overtime to make it to the finals, It was all just a blur and I kept going on straight instinct. My strength wasn't there, My cardio wasn't there, I depended on all technique.

 I looked up ways get my body back to normal before it and they said its my Libido levels. POIS was not brought up once. Nobody even thought about it when i asked numerous questions on it. Maybe if Pois didnt affect us we would be able to feel better even if we cut off our sex lives considering Semen is still in our body at all times. And maybe it shows its worst side effects when it ejaculates.

Im not really sure im just trying to throw some of my ideas out there. I really hope I can find something.

I saw a video on something saying there is a way of fixing it but you have to be injected with your own semen for 3 years. That wouldnt necessarily be my favored choice on what to do.

I kind of just learned to live with POIS and learned to deal it. I just know any time i want to engage in sexual activity i pay the price for the next 3 days. I just think it is what it is. I would love to know what its like to live without it but right now I just dont understand how someone can ejaculate and still have the same strenght, cardio, and motivation.

Brett

Hi, Brett!

I have conquered POIS 80%+ with TRT after 35 years' misery. But as you can see, I'm much older than you.

I SUSPECT that TRT can help any POIS sufferer, regardless of their testosterone reading.

However, TRT has RISKS.

(1) if you go off TRT your body MIGHT not be able to re-start T production on its own. 

(2) My sperm count went to ZERO.

I DON'T  know loss of sperm is a result of TRT, but I'm not ruling it out.

I also do not plan on having any more children.