[carlitto]

Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!

[carlitto]

A question to the veterans on this forum:

can we dismiss POIS as not being a sort of candida/yeast infection??

[Habibou]

"Niacin-induced “Flush” Involves Release of Prostaglandin D2
from Mast Cells and Serotonin from Platelets: Evidence
from Human Cells in Vitro and an Animal Model"

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/327/3/665.full.pdf

Seems interesting !

[GoingCrazy]

A question to the veterans on this forum:

can we dismiss POIS as not being a sort of candida/yeast infection??

Yeah, a year or two ago I went to the doctors and we discussed the possibility of candida and POIS.  He said the two wouldn't be connected at all.  candida wouldn't cause those feelings.

[rock27]

A question to the veterans on this forum:

can we dismiss POIS as not being a sort of candida/yeast infection??

I have considered this too. 3 years ago I was on a strict anti-Candida diet for 3 months. No change at all. So, candida and pois? Negative.

[Starsky]

Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!

I got this message from him:
I am fine. Thanks. I feel relief. I think I have 40 % less symptoms. Now I have only 2 days of POIS. Before the therapy 4 days. Now day 1 is like how day 2 used to be. And day 2 is like day 4.
I am now on 1/70 of dillution. Next Thursday I will have a 1/50 shot. And about 6 weeks I will be on the maximum: 1/20. Then the relief should go faster.

[CertainlyPOIS]

not
 starting argument about whether semen allergy is cause of pois just cyting evidence about what the immune system can do to the body and brain.  sjogren's syndrome is an auto immune diesease that causes fatigue and some mental sysmptoms we poisers get. And supposedly serena williams has it.


What are the symptoms? The two classic hallmarks of Sjögren's syndrome are dry eyes that feel itchy or gritty, as if there’s sand in them, and a dry cottony mouth that makes it hard to swallow. Other symptoms include joint pain, swelling or stiffness, swollen salivary glands (particularly the ones behind the jaw and in front of the ears), dry nose or nosebleeds, heartburn, brain fog (trouble concentrating or remembering), tooth decay, abnormal liver function, numbness or tingling in the hands and feet, extreme fatigue, skin rashes, vaginal dryness, persistent bronchitis, pneumonia or lung disease, reports the Sjögren's Syndrome Foundation.

[CertainlyPOIS]

Is Vandemolen still around? I haven't read any posts from him in a while... especially interesting are his updates on the desensitization he was getting at Dr Waldinger's!

I got this message from him:
I am fine. Thanks. I feel relief. I think I have 40 % less symptoms. Now I have only 2 days of POIS. Before the therapy 4 days. Now day 1 is like how day 2 used to be. And day 2 is like day 4.
I am now on 1/70 of dillution. Next Thursday I will have a 1/50 shot. And about 6 weeks I will be on the maximum: 1/20. Then the relief should go faster.

In light of these great results by vandemolen, those of you still looking for doctors to do semen allergy shouldnt give up.  Within my small state i have found two doctors that are willing to do the therapy. One of them changed his mind though because of distance but another one has agreed to do it (hopefully he dosnt change his mind).

my advice for searching; 
check every nook and corner
try university hospital doctors
try independent doctors(the ones that have agreed to do it were independent doctors)
whenever i sent them messages: i included dr waldingers papers and other papers, my psychologist letter proving my mental symptoms, and results from dr bewtra in creighton university, and a sob letter discribing how pois is destroying my life and now you can  add proofs that it is helping others you know.

[daveman]

So, today i tried again 100mg Niacin and i had an O. 1 hour later. I was afraid to try 200mg because first i want to be comfortable with 100mg. I noticed a flush in my ears.

Niacin seemed to help with my scalp tenderness and headache after the O. This time my worst symptom was my stomach area. It's in the left abdomen, and immediately after having an O. it gets bloated and hurts. It's like having an stomach migraine or "abdominal migraine". I hate it  []

Can anyone confirm this abdominal pain and bloating? Specially in the left area?

Quasar, is this pain in the stomach new, just with the Niacin?

I often get pains in the abdomen, I have the feeling they originate in the lower abdomen area (above and to the side of the prostate) with reflections that appear higher up. In my case they're mostly on the right.

[daveman]

Even here in Chile believe it or not CCconfucious there is a doctor doing desensitization. For any Chileans, send me a PM and I can get you the information.

Looking for Niacin is a nother situation. I found a 300mg gel cap with Vitamin C. They say that this is ALL there is made here in Chile. Sounds like a rare bird. Didn't buy it yet, it cost 20 bucks for 60 capsules. 300 mg is a lot and being a gel cap, it might be hard to divide. If it where dividable, it would be 180 doses. Still kind of expensive.

And I don't know what effect Vit C would have. Probably none negative.

I'm going to see if there is some other make.

 

[demografx]

POIS Research Fund Total: $2835

AND RISING

[demografx]

emi_b found this, searching the Internet:


Name: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome "POIS": Case report

Authors:
Abdalla M Attia*, Magda H Al-Ziny, Hossam A Yasien
*Corresponding author: Andrology Unit, Minoufiya University, Shibin El Kom, Eygpt

For more info, check out emi_b's  SMF POIS thread:
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=191.0;topicseen


THANK YOU, EMI_B!

[Itsthatskater]

I think im going to take 5 Hour energy tomorrow to see how it helps, Quite a bit of niacin in there too.

Am i the only lucky soul on this site who only gets POIS 24-48 hours?

[AceofSpades]

Hello,

I just saw this disease on the news.

(The clip talks about the disease at 35:46)

and I couldn't help to notice that it seems like the disease is related to the semen of the males (at least in some cases). Anyway, I (also a male) discovered male multiple orgams a while back, which are non-ejaculatory. I couldn't help to think that this might help at least in some case of POIS.

Now, I do not suffer from POIS myself, however when I learned of the disease, I instantly asked myself if non-ejaculatory orgams could be an answer (at least in part) to the problem.

Would it or has it been?

[Zoop]

I get POIS from excitement all alone.
Different hypothesis :
- i'm allergic to my pre seminal fluid (that doesn't exclude the possibility of being allergic to my sperm)
- excitement trigger sperm mixing, that could be eliminated later in urine
- this is not an allergy

[Starsky]

Did someone tried the Scrotal Tug? I noticed when i pull my testicles away from body i get any pois the day after. I tried it with XN and i felt great but now i didnt make it, just XN and i feel pois :/

[JRD]

I get POIS from excitement all alone.
Different hypothesis :
- i'm allergic to my pre seminal fluid (that doesn't exclude the possibility of being allergic to my sperm)
- excitement trigger sperm mixing, that could be eliminated later in urine
- this is not an allergy

Well, take a look at this quote: “They didn’t feel ill when they masturbated without ejaculating…, but as soon as the semen came from the testes …they became ill, sometimes within a few minutes.”, which is exactly, what Dr. Waldinger said and what was paraphrased in various articles.

It is counterintuitive for me to think, that an isolated sexual fantasy or getting an arousal would cause allergic reaction rather than physical masturbation (which is induced by sexual desire) without ejaculation itself.

[Zoop]

I get POIS from excitement all alone.
Different hypothesis :
- i'm allergic to my pre seminal fluid (that doesn't exclude the possibility of being allergic to my sperm)
- excitement trigger sperm mixing, that could be eliminated later in urine
- this is not an allergy

Well, take a look at this quote: “They didn’t feel ill when they masturbated without ejaculating…, but as soon as the semen came from the testes …they became ill, sometimes within a few minutes.”, which is exactly, what Dr. Waldinger said and what was paraphrased in various articles.

It is counterintuitive for me to think, that an isolated sexual fantasy or getting an arousal would cause allergic reaction rather than physical masturbation (which is induced by sexual desire) without ejaculation itself.

I don't think that thoughts can trigger an allergy.

[rock27]

It is counterintuitive for me to think, that an isolated sexual fantasy or getting an arousal would cause allergic reaction rather than physical masturbation (which is induced by sexual desire) without ejaculation itself.

When I'm aroused I usually don't get POIS, however if there's precum I will get a light version of POIS. Sometimes when I think I quit just in time, I still get POIS, so not really sure what's happening down there. Maybe some precum already left the shelter and is causing the problems, but not visisble to yourself yet (it is still inside the p****). Sometimes when I get symptoms and then check 15 minutes later I can feel at the top of my P**** that there is some precum I didn't notice before.

So to conclude, I think distinction between ejaculation and no ejaculation is too easy, should include precum.
In regards to thoughts of excitement leading to pois, I think this is because of precum. And because precum is not always easy visible to pois-ers, those pois-ers think it was just the thoughts, but it was not. My theory.

[JRD]

I don't think that thoughts can trigger an allergy.

Yes and that's the whole point. Even if the thought itself activated some physiological processes resulting in an autoimmune response, it is clear, that this would happened during masturbation without ejaculating as well. But Dr. Waldinger claims, that masturbation without ejaculating does not bring POIS.