[GoingCrazy]

Just wanted to say that the niacin that is working for me is sold at GNC.  I take one 500 milligram tablet, twice a week.  Not really sure how I compare to others.

[mellivora]

Last night I took 4 benadryl, 1 Claritin, two 100mg pills of niacin( one of which i cut open and took as powder), and 4 keystone light beers.

This post always makes me chuckle. What a combination! I'm not sure my doc would prescribe me Keystone light beer...Glad its working for ya!

[mellivora]

Didn't realise POIS has a facebook page. Thanks whoever did that. Not sure how many sufferers would be comfortable "liking" it on facebook though. 20 people have so far - don't know if they are sufferers or not
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Post-Orgasmic-Illness-Syndrome/129914263717751

[B_Daniel]

Question - Has anyone entered "Advanced POIS" (POIS that no longer goes away at day 4+) and gotten OUT of it?  How?!?  Constant pois is awful.

I have a new theory that my Advanced POIS is caused by miniature NE's every night.  I've never found evidence of a NE, but I feel by far the worst in the mornings, indicating that something might be going on while sleeping.  I'm going to try to wake up midway through the night and pop some Niacin. as Dave suggested.

It seems your pois and mine are advancing in similar directions.
I never heal to only rarely. You called the problem mini nes i call them sexdreams. Any sexual dream extends my pois. And i know am not crazy because it has happend alot and it has put me back into pois so many times even after getting out of pois. Also when i get them, i get a really bad waking up fatigue. 
I hate them with all posibbly hate in existence, "true meaning of no control".  This previous three weeks when i healed i did not have any of the dreams and then just like clockwork, i had a sexual dream and was back in pois.

The only problem with niacin every night, is the damage it can cause to liver.

I was thinking a combination of high grade omega 3, sweet potato  and wobenzym(enzyme blend that reduce inflammation even in arthritis patients) before sleep and middle of night should help. After trying niacin for a short while.  Somebody use wobenzym and said it helped alot. 
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=73.0

Jferr, goingcrazy, b_jim, mellivora, and ccconfucius- thank you for the responses. Ccconfucius- I agree with all you wrote- its prob not a NE that i struggle with- bc ive never seen any evidence of one- but rather sexual dreams. A few wks ago i snapped out of pois for the first time in 4 months. I thought it was from my SLIT treatments initially. Then when i began to feel bad again i began to believe the few days i felt good were from my testosterone treatments. Over the last 4 wks I have isolated and believe i have disproved both those theories (although i still retain faith that SLIT will help me in the future). My latest theory is that the thing that knocked me out of constant pois was a week long period of no sexual dreams. During that period I was stressed at work and school, sleeping 5 hrs per night, and my mind all day and likely all night was only on school and work. Thus, it is my new belief that these sexual night dreams contribute strongly to or are the main cause of my constant pois.

[mellivora]

(although i still retain faith that SLIT will help me in the future). 

Good luck with SLIT. I wonder though, could it be that your new constant POIS is due to SLIT? Or did you have the constant POIS before you started SLIT? In any case I'm sure you are using extremely dilute semen for your therapy...Hope you are able to snap out of POIS again soon.

[mellivora]

Hi folks - not been around for a while but found this on Niacin - it may be of interest - it UK sourced document. It is a PDF not webpage.

www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/evm_niacin.pdf

Thanks finalpanic, I've posted this in the reference section we have started on the other forum under NIACIN.
http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?board=18.0

[kurtosis]

It sounds like you experienced this without taking Niacin before the O in this case?

Thank you Kurotsis for details for krill oil tip. I will have a look on this. I have bought a lot of useless supplements but the effect of salmon is something to consider for me.

I can give you a tip for vitamin C. A strategy I have learn to maximize its effect is to take 200mg each 120 min instead of only 1 gr. The objective is to keep a good stable level in blood. The other point is to keep a low blood sugar (avoiding insuline spikes). Anyway I have to say vitamin C never helped my Pois.

I'm definitely reducing the variety of supplements I take, but the quantities have gone up
Re. vitamin C, I tend to put 500Mg in water every few hours instead of a cup of tea. So I'm consuming it throughout the day.  I'm nicely stocked up but sometimes I feel like a stronger hit of 2g.

[B_Daniel]

(although i still retain faith that SLIT will help me in the future). 

Good luck with SLIT. I wonder though, could it be that your new constant POIS is due to SLIT? Or did you have the constant POIS before you started SLIT? In any case I'm sure you are using extremely dilute semen for your therapy...Hope you are able to snap out of POIS again soon.

Thanks. SLIT can induce mild pois, but I dont believe theres any connection btwn constant pois and SLIT. Constant pois started long before SLIT and continues despite my 4 wk SLIT hiatus

[demografx]

I read about this herb called Tripterygium wilfordii that apparently has been found to relieve symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis by suppressing the immune system, but I looked for it on amazon and on vitacost and can't find it. Does anyone know a site that might have it in stock?

From China. I would use caution. There's been a lot of bad press about China's exports. Food and medicine.
http://m.alibaba.com/product-gs/280636455/Tripterygium_wilfordii_Extract_Q.html

[demografx]

VM:  Example of bad press on Chinese exports:
http://m.modernghana.com/mobile/138359/1/beware-of-fake-and-dangerous-imported-chinese-prod.html

[Vincent M]

Didn't realise POIS has a facebook page. Thanks whoever did that. Not sure how many sufferers would be comfortable "liking" it on facebook though. 20 people have so far - don't know if they are sufferers or not
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Post-Orgasmic-Illness-Syndrome/129914263717751

There are actually 2 POIS groups on facebook that I know of. Well one is just a page I guess, but this is the link to it: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Post-Orgasmic-Illness-Syndrome-POIS/175719769110249

I made an alternate facebook account to "like" and join the groups.

[Vincent M]

VM:  Example of bad press on Chinese exports:
http://m.modernghana.com/mobile/138359/1/beware-of-fake-and-dangerous-imported-chinese-prod.html

good point, demo. Thanks for the words of caution.

[CertainlyPOIS]

http://poiscenter.com/forums/index.php?topic=73.0

I have tried 2 enzymes supplements in 2007 (?) before the diet.
- Bromelain (200mg) + Papain (100mg)
- Multi-Enzyme (@Nuzyme)

Without success, but maybe I should try again. One is expired.

About omega 3, I have eaten lot of salmon and seafruit during last days. And I had zero symptoms durin my last Pois episode.

The person who used it said either wobenzym or zymnese should be  used not the other kind and they should be used on empty stomach. 
I  tried to compare the enzyme mix you bought to wobenzym but they have diff units which is confusing but it seems as if the one you bought is geared for overall digestion and wobenzym for inflammation.
wobenzym is suppose to reduce inflamation by breaking down proteins i dont understand how that will reduce inflammation.

[jferr]

Hey guys, Thanks to  fellow member Kurtosis i have experienced some relief and for the first time in a couple of years I have felt alive. Mind you my problem is constant, Mainly cognitive but the physical is there. Here's what I'm taking:


Before sex:
200mg Niacin

After sex:
1000 mg chlorella
1000mg Vitamin C

Every day:
1 multivitamin every morning
Fish oil throughout every day
Vitamin C - 1000mg every day
ZMA - Before bed

Once a week:
Chlorella - 1000 mg

I have only taken these products for a few days but I have felt alive for the first time in years. My ocgnitive functioning was so bad that psychiatrists thought I was a schizoprenic. Couldnt even go to the store without extreme confusion and paranoia. I have been able to start to get active in the past few days and it feels great.

I also ordered Lecithin, Folic Acid, Spirulina, Olive Leaf Extract, And Saw Palmetto in pill form but have yet to try them. If anybody has had positive effects from these and thinks that may be worth taking please let me know.

I am hoping that this is not just placebo and that this continues !

[kurtosis]

Hey guys, Thanks to  fellow member Kurtosis i have experienced some relief and for the first time in a couple of years I have felt alive. Mind you my problem is constant, Mainly cognitive but the physical is there. Here's what I'm taking:


Before sex:
200mg Niacin

After sex:
1000 mg chlorella
1000mg Vitamin C

Every day:
1 multivitamin every morning
Fish oil throughout every day
Vitamin C - 1000mg every day
ZMA - Before bed

Once a week:
Chlorella - 1000 mg

I have only taken these products for a few days but I have felt alive for the first time in years. My ocgnitive functioning was so bad that psychiatrists thought I was a schizoprenic. Couldnt even go to the store without extreme confusion and paranoia. I have been able to start to get active in the past few days and it feels great.

That's great to hear. As you know, the quantities are _slightly_ different for me (more vit c) and I've never tried Saw Palmetto.
For me, part of getting back on track involves exercise. I'm not talking about weight training but just plain old walking for at least 30 minutes every day to help release some serotonin and reduce cortisol levels.

[Quasar]

jferr

If you wish, you could also try with a high dose supplement of Quercetin. Quercetin is present in black tea. Sometimes i've noticed an improvement from taking high-concentrated black tea. And someone reported on this forum that taking Garlic helped him. Garlic contains Allicin, which is similar to Quercetin. Quercetin i also present in Onions...

I suggest this because Quercetin has anti-allergic and anti-inflammatory properties.

[Defsync]

Guanfacine

I saw a commercial for this. Wiki'ed it.

This med has some really uniqe properties. Im gonna ask my doc for this.

[mellivora]

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That's awesome! Thanks RemovePois!

[daveman]

It's difficult for me to understand how niacin can reduce the flu-like symptoms.
Maybe should I test another brand.

Nature's Way has worked very well for me. It's a capsule, so you can open it up and divide the dose as you see fit too.

But you need to take at least 70mg, or 100mg and on an empty stomach at least 30 to 40 minutes before "O".

I can't explain why it works either, but I don't care. I'm basically POIS free because of it!

[daveman]

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