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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18160 on: 16/05/2013 13:23:59 »
I recomend you to read this articles:

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/TRAUMA%20RELEASE.htm

And to all of you these topics:
http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/MASTURBATION.htm
http://drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/SEXUAL%20REJUV..htm



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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18161 on: 16/05/2013 14:37:31 »
Awesome link Starsky! Reason why I was thinking of adrenal problems is because I tend to be very hypoglycemic and I was controlling my POIS for a long time by eating a protein & carb rich meal 30 minutes prior to masturbation.
I did the same thing yesterday but my carb intake has been reduced because I desperately want to lose fat but unable to due to hypothyroidism.I was eating 1500 calories a day and when I was close to 2500 my POIS symptoms were kept at bay with minimal cognitive symptoms.
I guess it's better to be fat and happy than suffer and hope to lose some weight so I'm going back to 2500 a day and report back on POIS.

By the way I also started to take trace minerals and found out I'm severly lithium deficient.Lithium is needed for B12 transportation so if you are deficient you'll be B12 deficient also and that's not all.It's also needed for cobalt to get into the cell wall.Another deficiency.
So after 4-5 days of taking liquid trace minerals,because of the lithium I was feeling so alert,my perfectionism has disappeared,I used words that I've never used before and my speech was fast and intellectual,I looked in the mirror and accepted myself,I was optimistic,my vision cleared up due to the serotonin boost from happiness.My mind was sharp and was horny as hell so I was 3 days orgasm free then masturbated to get relief.
POIS hit me bad,the easiest way I can put it is that it dropped my IQ by 50 points right after ejaculation so I came back to you guys as now I know how does it feel to be alert and think clearly and I want to get it back no matter what.

I'm also on a gluten and dairy free diet but didn't notice feeling any better,yet when I went to eating gluten I felt like the food was sitting in my stomach all day and were unable to concentrate so it's definetly bad for me.
http://www.kingmaker.net/deaddoctorssum2.htm
http://www.abundalife.com/cobalt.html (scroll down)
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18162 on: 16/05/2013 14:52:24 »
drlwilson.com

I think you will find many answers there, over 800! interesting articles, you have there something like a free program that fits all. Im on the Herman vitamin program which has a lot with Dr Willson knowledge in common and it all seems very true.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18163 on: 17/05/2013 01:43:53 »
I found out that high serotonin symptoms (released after sex along with prolactin and dopamine) http://mindrenewal.us/page10.html
Serotonin excess also explains my painful diarrhea since there is a high amount of serotonin in the intestines.
Also, thyroid conditions (hypo/hyperthyroidism) have similar symptoms to POIS.

Yet I can't find the answer to key questions. What normalizes serotonin/prolactin/dopamine levels after ejaculation? What is the relationship between thyroid hormones and sex/ejaculation? Relationship between adrenal hormones and sex/ejaculation? Body chemistry while sexually aroused? What exactly happens when semen enters in contact with blood, desensitization?

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18164 on: 17/05/2013 04:05:07 »
Quote from: fornicationDENIED2 on 17/05/2013 01:43:53
I found out that high serotonin symptoms (released after sex along with prolactin and dopamine) http://mindrenewal.us/page10.html
Serotonin excess also explains my painful diarrhea since there is a high amount of serotonin in the intestines.
Also, thyroid conditions (hypo/hyperthyroidism) have similar symptoms to POIS.

Yet I can't find the answer to key questions. What normalizes serotonin/prolactin/dopamine levels after ejaculation? What is the relationship between thyroid hormones and sex/ejaculation? Relationship between adrenal hormones and sex/ejaculation? Body chemistry while sexually aroused? What exactly happens when semen enters in contact with blood, desensitization?



if you mean blood as in blood stream semen does not go there. It goes in the layer between skin and muscle.
In that layer the semen interacts with immune cells. Because of the slow build up of concentration and high frequency, the body builds antiblocking igg cells against allergy reaction.
Normal allergic reaction  is made worse by ige cells and other immune cells that cause the cascade of reaction.
igg blocks that.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18165 on: 17/05/2013 06:04:53 »
Quote from: Starsky on 16/05/2013 14:52:24
drlwilson.com

I think you will find many answers there, over 800! interesting articles, you have there something like a free program that fits all. Im on the Herman vitamin program which has a lot with Dr Willson knowledge in common and it all seems very true.

Please compare ... www.drlwilson.com/do%20hair%20analysis.htm
with ... www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/hair.html
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18166 on: 17/05/2013 06:13:41 »
Quote from: fornicationDENIED2 on 17/05/2013 01:43:53
... Serotonin excess also explains my painful diarrhea since there is a high amount of serotonin in the intestines ...

You mentioned previously that you had been diagnosed with Crohn's Disease , that routinely causes diarrhoea ...

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Abdominal pain may be the initial symptom of Crohn's disease. It is often accompanied by diarrhea ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crohn%27s_disease
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18167 on: 17/05/2013 19:25:45 »
I know, but I am in remission, zero diarrhea and little pain, that is, until I ejaculate. POIS triggers the diarrhea.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18168 on: 17/05/2013 21:06:09 »
Quote from: fornicationDENIED2 on 17/05/2013 19:25:45
I know, but I am in remission, zero diarrhea and little pain, that is, until I ejaculate. POIS triggers the diarrhea.

More likely some consequence of orgasm triggers your IBD ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18169 on: 18/05/2013 13:12:40 »
Do anyone of you get facial swelling,puffiness after ejaculation? Also,do you have low sodium levels?
Seem to be silly questions but I need you to answer them.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18170 on: 18/05/2013 14:45:59 »
I dont have it
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18171 on: 19/05/2013 09:52:19 »
I can happily report that after 4-5 days (don't remember exactly,POIS comes with amnesia for me) of abstaining,big spoon of cod liver oil daily,lots of digestive enzymes,B12,niacin,liquid trace minerals,trying to eat more calories and rest  I'm around 90% of what I was prior ejaculation.That 10% is exactly what I want,using words I've never used before in a conversation and speaking fluidly.
Still trying to figure out what I'm missing.

The puffy face after ejaculation could indicate Addison's-type phenomen.Or the other extremity, a form of Cushing's maybe?
Definetly adrenal related issue and not allergic reaction in my case.I get it after heavy exercise also.

Somewhere I remember reading a guy's post over the web that people with adrenal fatigue/insufficiency can't make up for the huge demand of GH secretion during heavy exercise because of the low cortisol,that's why they end up with a swollen face the very next day.

It could still be a culprit. The "21st century stress syndrome" + PTSD + rewired brain from porn = POIS  ?
And if that's the case,starvation is the worst thing you can do to your adrenals and that's the reason it hit me so bad last time.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18172 on: 19/05/2013 10:02:47 »
Quote from: desperate man on 18/05/2013 13:12:40
Do anyone of you get facial swelling,puffiness after ejaculation? Also,do you have low sodium levels?
Seem to be silly questions but I need you to answer them.

I get pale and look dead and weak in the face after ejaculation  ;D
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18173 on: 19/05/2013 10:13:23 »
Quote from: desperate man on 16/05/2013 09:19:18
I think PTSD could be one cause for POIS.

I most certainly suffered a complete mental breakdown 10 years ago most likely followed by PTSD. However I do believe porn came first, then porn-addiction, then some physical change like allergy to semen, then the complete mental breakdown and after that POIS.

I am quite certain that, at my worst moments, I today have only 5 % of the brain capacity I had 10 years ago. Sometimes when I do fun things like programming, I would say I get up to 75 %, however I am starting to think I am nowadays addicted to computers and Internet and get up to 75 % capacity then followed by a severe drop in mood and performance after it.

It seems that whatever I do nowadays, I develop an addiction to it.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18174 on: 19/05/2013 10:19:34 »
Some foods and ingredients make me more horny, pasta most certainly and nicotinamide. Is it because I get more energy or does it trigger something?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18175 on: 19/05/2013 13:09:59 »
Has anyone cured from POIS been able to consume porn in quantity and still not suffer from symptoms?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Болезни Дауна (POI)
« Reply #18176 on: 20/05/2013 10:17:41 »
I recomend you to read this articles:    http://forum-andrology.org/

http://cure-erectile-dysfunction.org/symptoms-of-sexual-exhaustion

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18177 on: 20/05/2013 11:07:28 »
"The main ingredient of S.S.R.I. anti-depressant drugs is fluoride, so they they dramatically increase the likelihood of thyroid disorders, and in some cases may be the primary cause. S.S.R.I. drugs are also notorious for causing nutritional deficiencies by reducing the absorption of nutrients in the gastrointestinal tract. Without the proper nutrients, hypothyroidism cannot be cured, because those nutrients are needed to balance the hormones, and strengthen the thyroid. S.S.R.I. drugs reduce usable calcium in the body, and thereby make magnesium unusable; since magnesium and calcium are interdependent."

source: http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/211-how-to-cure-hypothyroidism-naturally.html
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18178 on: 20/05/2013 17:05:53 »
Hi, from the god sake POIS not bounce back even after one and half month and having an avg of three o's in a week. 
Today visited the doctor for further appointment had a discussion for 2 hours and I would like to explain the discussion as per with my doctor. 

In the earlier post, I posted only there was only numerological imbalance in me due to over masturbation resulted in POIS.  Today I asked in depth.  As per doctor for me, there was a over stimulation of acetylcholine parasympathetic nervous system.  Due to there was a imbalance in CNS and over production of acetycholine leading to imbalance in brain chemistry.  Further, there was also imbalance in digestive system and function of liver.  That's why he has prescribed me four different varieties (one for CNS, one for digestion, one for parasite and another for stress and another for increasing vitamin C i.e. amla juice) and also suggested to follow one diet system for one month so that brain chemeistry should be normal. 

After following the medicine and diet, brain chemistry i.e. ratio of various hormones and CNS came normal.  He warned if any time continues Over masturbation for one month, again POIS will come.   

To confirm this, pl check google for symtoms of over stimulation of acetylcholine parasympathetic nervous system and also for symtoms of high acetycholine.  Also for masturbation and acetycholine parasympathetic nervous system.

Also I found one of the symtoms of high acetycholine is flu like symtoms that we have in POIS. 

Further he also mentioned that there is no medicine to restore this in allopathy medicine.  for this the only solution through herbal. 

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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18179 on: 20/05/2013 20:53:50 »
Nathan,

If you read my previous posts that is what  I wrote exactly,    about acethycholine and gaba imbalance and  POIS as an effect of post marijuana  smoking.
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