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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18940 on: 22/09/2013 00:08:18 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 21/09/2013 15:36:16
John, try pumpkin seeds (10 $ / pound ), with a carbohydrate at 4 PM.
Your serotonin will take off :) 
I sleep like a baby since 2 weeks.

BJim,
Thanks for the tip, I'll try it! I'm still battling insomnia so I'll try most anything. How do the carbs assist the pumpkin seeds? What is the mechanism? I use carbs to put myself back to sleep when I wake up too early, toast is my sleep medication. But why would it help at 4:00PM  with the pumpkin seeds?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18941 on: 22/09/2013 08:57:04 »
I dont have "Brain fog" after O like  i had 2,3 years before but i have permanent Depression,anxiety,and lack of understanding of thing....But they remain same before and after O as it dont have any mental effects on me.
I want to know why is that either i have too much dopamine so o dont affect or too low ?
can someone explain me that
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18942 on: 22/09/2013 12:40:57 »
Quote from: John21 on 22/09/2013 00:08:18
BJim,
Thanks for the tip, I'll try it! I'm still battling insomnia so I'll try most anything. How do the carbs assist the pumpkin seeds? What is the mechanism? I use carbs to put myself back to sleep when I wake up too early, toast is my sleep medication. But why would it help at 4:00PM  with the pumpkin seeds?
Jim, I have been battling insomnia for the past 3 mths and have on and off over the years. Just thought I'd mention a few things that have helped me.
Melatonin is always great as long as I don't take it too many days.
Valerian is ok but it takes me over a month to get nay impact.
Hops are pretty good.
I have tried Phenibut recently on the recommendations of some of the guys at the gym. Its been a mixed bag for me. I find it good (but not ideal at keeping me asleep till 6am) but it can only be used a few days in a row for me.
Baclofen - which I was prescribed to boost my GH levels I find is good for a more refreshing night's sleep though it does not put you to sleep to begin with. Probably helps by increasing gaba.
A great med is Zolpidem. It puts me to sleep pretty quick and keeps me asleep and I dont wake up groggy at all. The catch is the sleep seems slightly artificial. I am not tired but it maybe feels like I dont hit deep stage 4 sleep. Its still better than insomnia though.
Recently I pestered my doc for a substitute for Zolpidem and he put me on low dose  Amitripyline (tricyclic antidepressant - 12mg) and that has been not too bad at both getting me to sleep and keeping me there.
Another med I have recently taken that supplements Amitripyline and gives me a great night sleep with lots of interesting dreams is Sinemet (dopamine booster). It also helps make me sleepy not too long after taking it. I know it sounds weird for levodopa to not be stimulating but it has this effect on some users).
Anyway I just thought I would mention the herbs/meds that I have tried over the past months to get me over insomnia. Another thing that helped me is not training so late in the evening which I started to do overt that period. I take a pre workout supplement just before I go to the gym (ie C4 or Black Powder), and it really boosts my physical & mental stamina, but it also has the potential to carry on into the evening. I don't feel wired in the evening but just not tired so I have been backing off on taking it too much if I go to the gym after 7pm and yeah that has helped also, so it definitely played a party in my insomnia.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18943 on: 22/09/2013 22:20:28 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 22/09/2013 21:47:52

There is a competition between amino-acids absorbtion. When you eat proteins it increases tyrosine absorbtion. And then when you eat carbs it helps tryptophan. (scientific) [ carbohydrate reduces serum levels of competing LNAAs ] .
 And why 4.00 PM  ? Because I read you need a delay of 6 hours for a full absorbtion and cross the brain blood barrier.

These seed are rich in tryptophan : 53 % of recommanded daily value for 32g of seeds (1/4 of cup). In a perfect world, seeds should be desoiled. But I found it very effective.\

So as my problem is early morning awakening ( 3 or 4 AM) perhaps pumpkin seeds and bread is a good bedtime snack....will try it.
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« Reply #18944 on: 23/09/2013 09:27:07 »
Quote from: acronym on 22/09/2013 12:40:57
Quote from: John21 on 22/09/2013 00:08:18
BJim,
Thanks for the tip, I'll try it! I'm still battling insomnia so I'll try most anything. How do the carbs assist the pumpkin seeds? What is the mechanism? I use carbs to put myself back to sleep when I wake up too early, toast is my sleep medication. But why would it help at 4:00PM  with the pumpkin seeds?
Jim, I have been battling insomnia for the past 3 mths and have on and off over the years. Just thought I'd mention a few things that have helped me.
Melatonin is always great as long as I don't take it too many days.
Valerian is ok but it takes me over a month to get nay impact.
Hops are pretty good.
I have tried Phenibut recently on the recommendations of some of the guys at the gym. Its been a mixed bag for me. I find it good (but not ideal at keeping me asleep till 6am) but it can only be used a few days in a row for me.
Baclofen - which I was prescribed to boost my GH levels I find is good for a more refreshing night's sleep though it does not put you to sleep to begin with. Probably helps by increasing gaba.
A great med is Zolpidem. It puts me to sleep pretty quick and keeps me asleep and I dont wake up groggy at all. The catch is the sleep seems slightly artificial. I am not tired but it maybe feels like I dont hit deep stage 4 sleep. Its still better than insomnia though.
Recently I pestered my doc for a substitute for Zolpidem and he put me on low dose  Amitripyline (tricyclic antidepressant - 12mg) and that has been not too bad at both getting me to sleep and keeping me there.
Another med I have recently taken that supplements Amitripyline and gives me a great night sleep with lots of interesting dreams is Sinemet (dopamine booster). It also helps make me sleepy not too long after taking it. I know it sounds weird for levodopa to not be stimulating but it has this effect on some users).
Anyway I just thought I would mention the herbs/meds that I have tried over the past months to get me over insomnia. Another thing that helped me is not training so late in the evening which I started to do overt that period. I take a pre workout supplement just before I go to the gym (ie C4 or Black Powder), and it really boosts my physical & mental stamina, but it also has the potential to carry on into the evening. I don't feel wired in the evening but just not tired so I have been backing off on taking it too much if I go to the gym after 7pm and yeah that has helped also, so it definitely played a party in my insomnia.

"A great med is Zolpidem"

If I were you I would run the F. away from your MD...It's not because it works well for a while that it's a good med...The big risk with brain inhibitor class medecine is to create an other problem beside POIS
Zolpidem is considered as a stupefiant(illegal) in several countries
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18945 on: 23/09/2013 18:37:38 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 16:46:09
Pois will be discuted november the 1st at Middle East Society for Sexual Medicine (MESSM) meetin in Dubaļ, with australian doctor Chris McMahon.

How do you know?

Thank you.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18946 on: 23/09/2013 19:13:07 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 18:59:03
This .pdf p9


Where information pois?
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18947 on: 23/09/2013 20:43:22 »
Quote from: Kima on 23/09/2013 19:13:07
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 18:59:03
This .pdf p9


Where information pois?
page 9
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18948 on: 23/09/2013 20:46:55 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 16:46:09
Pois will be discuted november the 1st at Middle East Society for Sexual Medicine (MESSM) meetin in Dubaļ, with australian doctor Chris McMahon.


I looked at his pubmed page and it looks like he has not done any personal research on pois but he has done research into sexual problems.  maybe be he is presenting what is already known. Hopefully his presentation increases interest in doing pois research.
I dont know if he should be contacted or not? what do you guys think.
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18949 on: 23/09/2013 23:52:13 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 16:46:09
Pois will be discuted november the 1st at Middle East Society for Sexual Medicine (MESSM) meetin in Dubaļ, with australian doctor Chris McMahon.

They gave POIS a better name: Post-ejaculatory illness syndrome. It's not about O.
If 1 oil sheik has POIS we don't have to worry about the funds. :)
Let's hope that it gets the attention of more doctors and that there will be more research around the world.
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« Reply #18950 on: 24/09/2013 00:13:00 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 21/09/2013 15:36:16
John, try pumpkin seeds (10 $ / pound ), with a carbohydrate at 4 PM.
Your serotonin will take off :) 
I sleep like a baby since 2 weeks.
Thanks! I am going to try it. I read that pumpkin seeds are also good for the bladder. With my UTI's...
100 grams of pumpkin seeds contain 30 % of the daily needs for Niacin. And also a lot of zinc and magnesium.
In Holland they have bread with pumpkin seeds. So I am going to buy that.
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« Reply #18951 on: 24/09/2013 03:52:56 »
The study is our last hope.
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« Reply #18952 on: 24/09/2013 06:36:56 »
Quote from: Dean93 on 20/09/2013 18:35:11
Hello. Just checking in after a long time.

I'm now being treated for my condition as depression and I'm doing a lot better. I now mostly refer to my condition as clinical depression triggered by orgasm. Relevant comments are welcome.

If this comic strikes a chord with you, it might be something for you to look into as well.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html

Talk to your doctor. The best to everyone.

Very good comic!

PS.
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« Reply #18953 on: 25/09/2013 12:41:47 »
Quote from: CertainlyPOIS on 23/09/2013 20:46:55
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 16:46:09
Pois will be discuted november the 1st at Middle East Society for Sexual Medicine (MESSM) meetin in Dubaļ, with australian doctor Chris McMahon.


I looked at his pubmed page and it looks like he has not done any personal research on pois but he has done research into sexual problems.  maybe be he is presenting what is already known. Hopefully his presentation increases interest in doing pois research.
I dont know if he should be contacted or not? what do you guys think.
I doubt we'll learn a lot since it's a 20 min discussion for 3 differents subjects including POIS, but there's nothing to lose to contact them. This doctor will be there too:
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/52754/Dr-Pierre-Assalian-Montreal-QC.html
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Re: Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)
« Reply #18954 on: 25/09/2013 14:30:35 »
Quote from: Kima on 24/09/2013 03:52:56
The study is our last hope.
I thought you were cured thanks to Germany?
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« Reply #18955 on: 25/09/2013 17:57:41 »
Quote from: martin88 on 25/09/2013 12:41:47
Quote from: CertainlyPOIS on 23/09/2013 20:46:55
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 16:46:09
Pois will be discuted november the 1st at Middle East Society for Sexual Medicine (MESSM) meetin in Dubaļ, with australian doctor Chris McMahon.


I looked at his pubmed page and it looks like he has not done any personal research on pois but he has done research into sexual problems.  maybe be he is presenting what is already known. Hopefully his presentation increases interest in doing pois research.
I dont know if he should be contacted or not? what do you guys think.
I doubt we'll learn a lot since it's a 20 min discussion for 3 differents subjects including POIS, but there's nothing to lose to contact them. This doctor will be there too:
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/52754/Dr-Pierre-Assalian-Montreal-QC.html

And if you read the reviews he is not very impressive! I am not holding out any hope for this one!

PS.
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« Reply #18956 on: 25/09/2013 17:59:12 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 07:23:25
It will be more effective at 4PM I think, even to reduce early awakes.

Some guys think pumpkins seed might increase testosterone by DHT reduction, via beta-sitosterol. Unfortunately, after 2 weeks it didn't help my Pois and not really help my anxiety.


So I bought seeds, they are VERY salty :-( So I started to remove the outer shell before eating and there is not much inside! I suspect the shell is worthless? Do we only need to eat the meat?

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« Reply #18957 on: 27/09/2013 10:42:05 »
Quote from: B_Jim on 23/09/2013 07:23:25

Some guys think pumpkins seed might increase testosterone by DHT reduction, via beta-sitosterol. Unfortunately, after 2 weeks it didn't help my Pois and not really help my anxiety.

Maybe that is what happened for me: While consumeing pumpkin seeds this past week I found myself feeling aggressive/ angry and sleep worsened. Looks like they are not the best for me.
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« Reply #18958 on: 28/09/2013 03:46:48 »

Quote from: demografx on 05/11/2012 17:49:38
As I mentioned, I have committed my time elsewhere, but that I would be checking in here from time to time.

I am really excited with all the progress. We are getting very close to the day when world-recognized, scientific-medical researchers will investigate our condition thoroughly and put us all in a better light. When we go for POIS treatment, we will have more respect and hopefully soon, some solid treatment recommendations.

Best wishes to all!

Happy New Year,
demo



We're hoping for a final selection of POIS researchers by late November.

Thank you for your patience!

demo
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« Reply #18959 on: 28/09/2013 10:30:59 »

Hello everyone, Its Nathan. 

I and my doctor has not left the group and still in the group.  We not posted because still we are in the final stage of reaching the success for Gaurav.  He is cured almost 80%  taking additional treatement after panchakarma (in panchakarma he cured only of around 40%) and my doctor still working on it along coordination with his family doctor. 

Shockingly and interestingly, the toxic theory which applied to me does not apply to Gaurav where his POIS was due to other reasons and it is very interesting.  We will come back at the earliest, once he cured completely with all explanations and evidences.  As we have not still achieved 100% success on Gaurav, we do not want to discuss as it is without any evidence and documents. 

With regard to my health, as of now also, I am cured and perfectly alright.  As posted earlier, my POIS is due to accumulation of toxins, bad digestion system resulting in POIS. 

Will be back at the earliest along with the success and explanation on the treatment and response to Gaurav. 

With regards,
Nathan.   
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