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What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?

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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #80 on: 19/03/2017 13:15:55 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 19/03/2017 00:04:06
Hey! I can get people to believe in complete bullshit! The question is, should I use this discovered talent to run for the US Presidency or Chairman of the IPCC? Heck, why not both?  Watch this space, folks!
You have shown that you can convince someone who already believes in chemtrails to believe complete  bullshit.
How much of a talent is that?
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #81 on: 19/03/2017 17:31:07 »
At least enough to become President of the USA, it seems. Maybe Pope, an Archbishop, or First Minister for Scotland? There are enough mugs out there to swing any public election if you are prepared to tell Big Lies.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #82 on: 19/03/2017 22:34:22 »
Plenty of people were dim enough to vote for Trump, but believing in chemtrails needs a "special" kind of person.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #83 on: 22/03/2017 09:46:04 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 19/03/2017 22:34:22
Plenty of people were dim enough to vote for Trump, but believing in chemtrails needs a "special" kind of person.

You seem to confuse cloud condensation with "condensation aerosols". The latter mimick the effect of cloud condensation. So, it is normal that most people confuse both phenomenons.

« Last Edit: 22/03/2017 09:50:14 by tkadm30 »
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #84 on: 23/03/2017 19:40:36 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 22/03/2017 09:46:04

You seem to confuse cloud condensation with "condensation aerosols". The latter mimick the effect of cloud condensation. So, it is normal that most people confuse both phenomenons.

So you  agree with me that only "special" people can see the difference.
Well, that would explain a lot. *
Incidentally, do you know that a cloud is
an aerosol and
caused by condensation?
So, what you are saying is that on one hand we have aerosols of condensate and on the other hand we have condensation aerosols.

If you understood just a little bit more science, perhaps you would see why you are talking nonsense.
Of course, if you understood about evidence, that would also help.


*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #85 on: 23/03/2017 19:46:20 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2017 19:40:36
Incidentally, do you know that a cloud is an aerosol and caused by condensation?

That is precisely the point. Condensation aerosols mimick the effects of atmospheric clouds...

Most people aren't aware of this particular effect of aerosols.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #86 on: 23/03/2017 20:10:51 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 23/03/2017 19:46:20
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2017 19:40:36
Incidentally, do you know that a cloud is an aerosol and caused by condensation?

That is precisely the point. Condensation aerosols mimick the effects of atmospheric clouds...

Most people aren't aware of this particular effect of aerosols.

A cloud is a condensation aerosol.

Do you not understand that?
It's how you have been hoodwinked.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #87 on: 24/03/2017 09:21:23 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2017 20:10:51
A cloud is a condensation aerosol.

The difference between a polydisperse aerosol and a monodisperse aerosol matters.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #88 on: 25/03/2017 00:01:03 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 24/03/2017 09:21:23
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2017 20:10:51
A cloud is a condensation aerosol.

The difference between a polydisperse aerosol and a monodisperse aerosol matters.

Yes, sometimes.
And I know what the difference is.
I suspect you don't.
There is no way you can tell by looking from the ground whether a cloud is monodisperse or polydisperse.

Clouds are still condensation aerosols.
You have still been taken for a ride.

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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #89 on: 25/03/2017 09:52:05 »
Water vapor doesn't aggregate to form a extruded trail.
This is evidence of the chemical nature and presence of an "aerosol"
being injected in the troposphere.
I suspect you have no idea what is a highly dispersed aerosol...

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/2004/water47.html

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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #90 on: 26/03/2017 10:06:11 »
Curiously, the Stanford guys seem to have used a hugely complicated  piece of kit to discover something my friends found back in the 1960s at Birkbeck College with very simple crystallographic equipment. Not having a linac or the ability to make complex computer models, they simply  compared the transforms of Voronoi polyhedra with faint diffraction maxima and determined that liquid water was ordered over a range of about 5 molecules. 
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #91 on: 26/03/2017 10:10:31 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 25/03/2017 09:52:05
Water vapor doesn't aggregate to form a extruded trail.
It is very obvious that it does.
Constable painted it doing so.

Why are you continuing with an argument that requires you to keep saying things that are clearly not true?
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #92 on: 26/03/2017 10:19:55 »
Well, as a former art student, let me first say that Constable "Cloud Study" is far from depicting a highly dispersed aerosol being injected in the troposphere. Constable artworks are very good illustrations of a typical cirrus cloud, but this is NOT comparable to a chemtrail.

http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/constable-cloud-study-n06065
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #93 on: 27/03/2017 19:44:43 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 26/03/2017 10:19:55
Well, as a former art student, let me first say that Constable "Cloud Study" is far from depicting a highly dispersed aerosol being injected in the troposphere. Constable artworks are very good illustrations of a typical cirrus cloud, but this is NOT comparable to a chemtrail.

http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/constable-cloud-study-n06065
Make up your mind.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #94 on: 27/03/2017 19:45:06 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 23/03/2017 19:46:20
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/03/2017 19:40:36
Incidentally, do you know that a cloud is an aerosol and caused by condensation?

That is precisely the point. Condensation aerosols mimick the effects of atmospheric clouds...

Most people aren't aware of this particular effect of aerosols.

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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #95 on: 27/03/2017 20:26:08 »
I think I got my answer...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/true-north/2017/mar/27/trump-presidency-opens-door-to-planet-hacking-geoengineer-experiments
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #96 on: 27/03/2017 21:52:24 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 27/03/2017 20:26:08
I think I got my answer...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/true-north/2017/mar/27/trump-presidency-opens-door-to-planet-hacking-geoengineer-experiments
So, Trump is prepared to pretend that this is true, in the same way that he pretended that Mexicans would pay for the wall.

The interesting point is that he's saying they can start.
So that means they didn't do it before
Which means that your assertions that it has been done are all wrong.
Happy now?
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #97 on: 02/04/2017 10:33:56 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/03/2017 21:52:24
So, Trump is prepared to pretend that this is true, in the same way that he pretended that Mexicans would pay for the wall.

The interesting point is that he's saying they can start.
So that means they didn't do it before
Which means that your assertions that it has been done are all wrong.
Happy now?
You have an interesting logic.
And this article is BS.
Clandestine (solar) geoengineering activity started after 9/11.
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #98 on: 02/04/2017 10:42:49 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 02/04/2017 10:33:56
Quote from: Bored chemist on 27/03/2017 21:52:24
So, Trump is prepared to pretend that this is true, in the same way that he pretended that Mexicans would pay for the wall.

The interesting point is that he's saying they can start.
So that means they didn't do it before
Which means that your assertions that it has been done are all wrong.
Happy now?
You have an interesting logic.
And this article is BS.
Clandestine (solar) geoengineering activity started after 9/11.

So, what you are saying is that they are going to start doing something they started doing nearly 20 years ago.
Make up you mind.
You also say the article you posted is BS.

And, you question my logic?
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Re: What is Trump's opinion about chemtrails?
« Reply #99 on: 02/04/2017 10:51:04 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 02/04/2017 10:42:49
So, what you are saying is that they are going to start doing something they started doing nearly 20 years ago.

Nope, that's your claim.

Quote from: Bored chemist
You also say the article you posted is BS.

And, you question my logic?

I don't question your logic, I find it interestingly wrong and outdated. Either you speak trash for no reason or distributing
garbage to disinform systematically your readers. Fascinating.
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