[Kryptid]

i believe superhurricanes are partly influenced by directed ionospheric heating. It is well established that electromagnetic energy creates heat when emitting microwaves beams. This heating power may influence superhurricane formation and intensity.

I presumed when you said "signal" that you were directly implying that the heating was artificial. What I'm looking for is a way to tell natural heating from artificial heating.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

I presumed when you said "signal" that you were directly implying that the heating was artificial. What I'm looking for is a way to tell natural heating from artificial heating.

Interesting question.
What do you think a "ionospheric heater" is built for?
Note the patent I linked is fully describing the method and apparatus used for "altering a region in the [ionosphere]":

The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating to thereby increase its charged particle density. In one embodiment, circularly polarized electromagnetic radiation is transmitted upward in a direction substantially parallel to and along a field line which extends through the region of plasma to be altered. The radiation is transmitted at a frequency which excites electron cyclotron resonance to heat and accelerate the charged particles. This increase in energy can cause ionization of neutral particles which are then absorbed as part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

If Hurricane Harvey was a geomagnetic storm, the probability that directed ULF/VLF signal propagation in the ionosphere caused a strong ionospheric response is high.

Harvey was not a geomagnetic storm.
Hurricanes and geomagnetic storms are totally different phenomena with totally different causes, the only thing they have in common is the name storm. Whoever is feeding you misinformation doesn't understand the difference and certainly doesn't understand hurricanes.
Take the example of the video you linked to. The narrator describes 2 disruptions to the eye wall - claimed to be due to geoengineering - however, as I said earlier, these are natural events in normal hurricanes. You have to forget the cartoon graphics of hurricanes and realise that these are dynamic systems in which the eyewall is in constant change. In a strong hurricane like Harvey rainbands spiral in from the outside and form multiple eyewalls, the central eyewall will then disappear (appearing to be disrupted) and be replaced by the outer wall. Known as the eyewall replacement cycle this can have serious consequence as the power of the hurricane can increase dramatically following such a replacement and if it occurs before landfall the damage can be substantially magnified.

All storms are ionospheric by nature. The lower ionosphere produces stratospheric storms, heat, and rainfall.

This is also misinformation. Stratospheric storms are not ionospheric. The lower band of the ionosphere is significantly above the top of the stratosphere and does not produce any stratospheric weather storms or rainfall.
Another piece of misinformation is that heating the upper layers will increase the power of a hurricane. Hurricanes are heat engines, in conditions ideal for a rapid increase in strength - high water temperatures and low wind shear - warm moist air rises and then cools, releasing heat, to fall and recirculate into the base of the hurricane. This cooling and recirculation is essential for the continuation of the cycle and any heating of the upper layers would disrupt the process and weaken the hurricane.

You haven't demonstrated any way to distinguish between a naturally occurring hurricane and one that is manipulated by weather technology. What test would you use?

Its quite simple. You simply need to visualize ionospheric ULF/VLF signal propagation (heat) during and after the storm for Corpus Christi (and Houston). You may find out that the distance (D) between Corpus Christi and Houston matches the relative intensity (RI) of ionospheric heat for this precise geolocation.

As explained above this heating cannot increase the strength of the hurricane.

All storms are influenced by ionospheric and geomagnetic variations in the lower ionosphere.
It is inaccurate to imply that stratospheric storms are different from ionospheric storms.
Both are interconnected atmospheric components critical to the behavior and intensity of hurricanes.

[Kryptid]

Interesting question.
What do you think a "ionospheric heater" is built for?
Note the patent I linked is fully describing the method and apparatus used for "altering a region in the [ionosphere]":

The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating to thereby increase its charged particle density. In one embodiment, circularly polarized electromagnetic radiation is transmitted upward in a direction substantially parallel to and along a field line which extends through the region of plasma to be altered. The radiation is transmitted at a frequency which excites electron cyclotron resonance to heat and accelerate the charged particles. This increase in energy can cause ionization of neutral particles which are then absorbed as part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region.

That didn't answer my question. This is akin to me asking "How do you tell a crater created by a bomb from a crater created by a meteorite?" and you giving the answer of "What do you think a bomb is built for?". I know that HAARP can send microwaves into the ionosphere, which would result in (some) heating. What I'm asking for specifically is how to tell the difference between heating caused by nature and heating caused by technology? How do the two look different?

[tkadm30 (OP)]

That didn't answer my question. This is akin to me asking "How do you tell a crater created by a bomb from a crater created by a meteorite?" and you giving the answer of "What do you think a bomb is built for?". I know that HAARP can send microwaves into the ionosphere, which would result in (some) heating. What I'm asking for specifically is how to tell the difference between heating caused by nature and heating caused by technology? How do the two look different?

Do natural aurora borealis affect the intensity of tropical hurricanes? The difference between a superhurricane and a (tropical) hurricane is in its ionospheric composition. Altering the ionospheric variation of electrons particle in a hurricane may increase its relative intensity. (heat)

[Kryptid]

That didn't answer my question. This is akin to me asking "How do you tell a crater created by a bomb from a crater created by a meteorite?" and you giving the answer of "What do you think a bomb is built for?". I know that HAARP can send microwaves into the ionosphere, which would result in (some) heating. What I'm asking for specifically is how to tell the difference between heating caused by nature and heating caused by technology? How do the two look different?

Do natural aurora borealis affect the intensity of tropical hurricanes? The difference between a superhurricane and a (tropical) hurricane is in its ionospheric composition. Altering the ionospheric variation of electrons particle in a hurricane may increase its relative intensity. (heat)

That still didn't answer my question. Assuming for a moment that ionospheric heating does have some kind of impact on hurricane strength (which I'm not convinced of, by the way), how do you tell artificial heating from natural heating? This should not be a hard question to understand. If you had some kind of infrared image of the ionosphere associated with a hurricane, what signatures would you look for to justify calling that heating artificial instead of natural? How could you possibly tell the difference? How do you know what a difference would even look like?

[Bored chemist]

Do natural aurora borealis affect the intensity of tropical hurricanes?

Not really, no.
Can you think why?
Here's a hint. one happens at the poles...

[tkadm30 (OP)]

That still didn't answer my question. Assuming for a moment that ionospheric heating does have some kind of impact on hurricane strength (which I'm not convinced of, by the way), how do you tell artificial heating from natural heating? This should not be a hard question to understand. If you had some kind of infrared image of the ionosphere associated with a hurricane, what signatures would you look for to justify calling that heating artificial instead of natural? How could you possibly tell the difference? How do you know what a difference would even look like?

You would need to look at infrared microwave radiation. Typically a tropical storm like Harvey must have a very strong electron density in the lower ionosphere.

[Bored chemist]

You would need to look at infrared microwave radiation.

That makes as much sense as saying "you should buy green purple paint".

[Kryptid]

You would need to look at infrared microwave radiation.

Okay. So where is it?

[tkadm30 (OP)]

You would need to look at infrared microwave radiation.

Okay. So where is it?

Superhurricane Irma heat map can be visualized here: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/irma-atlantic-ocean

[Kryptid]

You would need to look at infrared microwave radiation.

Okay. So where is it?

Superhurricane Irma heat map can be visualized here: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/irma-atlantic-ocean

I thought we were talking about Hurricane Harvey? Are you implying Irma is also being engineered? In that case, show me the microwave beam created by HAARP on that heat map. I sure don't see it.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

I thought we were talking about Hurricane Harvey? Are you implying Irma is also being engineered? In that case, show me the microwave beam created by HAARP on that heat map. I sure don't see it.

Directed ULF/VLF signal propagation may induce region-specific alterations in the lower ionosphere.
That is what geometric modulation is designed for.
If you're interested in real-time ionospheric maps produced by the NASA, see: https://iono.jpl.nasa.gov/latest_rti_global.html

[Kryptid]

Directed ULF/VLF signal propagation may induce region-specific alterations in the lower ionosphere.
That is what geometric modulation is designed for.
If you're interested in real-time ionospheric maps produced by the NASA, see: https://iono.jpl.nasa.gov/latest_rti_global.html

So you can't show me the beam. That's all I needed to know.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

So you can't show me the beam. That's all I needed to know.

Thats irrelevant.
You think for a second that any evidence of [HAARP] influence on this hurricane would be put online
on facebook?

[Bored chemist]

Lots f pretty pictures. But they look like hurricanes always did.
So what's the evidence that this one is in any way "special"?

[tkadm30 (OP)]

Lots f pretty pictures. But they look like hurricanes always did.
So what's the evidence that this one is in any way "special"?

If a superhurricane is the signature of climate change, something is terribly wrong with this theory.

[Kryptid]

Thats irrelevant.

It's very relevant. If you can't show me a microwave beam heating the ionosphere above a hurricane why should I believe there ever was one? I'm not just going to take your word for it.

You think for a second that any evidence of [HAARP] influence on this hurricane would be put online
on facebook?

Thank you for finally admitting that you don't have evidence to show me.

If a superhurricane is the signature of climate change, something is terribly wrong with this theory.

Yes, something is terribly wrong with your weather tech theory.

[tkadm30 (OP)]

something is terribly wrong with your weather tech theory.

Nothing wrong with my "weather tech theory", unless your belief in climate change can explain the recent hurricanes intensification!

[Kryptid]

Nothing wrong with my "weather tech theory", unless your belief in climate change can explain the recent hurricanes intensification!

You still don't know what the argument from ignorance is, do you?