[Petrochemicals (OP)]

Another discovery was the earth magnetic field periodically wanders over the earth and reverses polarity. This was easier to explain when the earth was a uniform ball. But the rotating core discovery; always one direction, makes it harder.

in my mind balls with an inner ball rotating at different speed to the outer are more likely to wander. I can't think of what children's toy I have seen but that is how I remember it.

It was also discovered that there is an ocean of water, the size of the Arctic Ocean, in the mantle  just below the crust, in SE Asia. There was another parallel discovery of a scar on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean where the mantle was exposed. Combined these two discoveries suggests mantle water can periodically breach the crust and add water and heat to the oceans. These discoveries are not part of the climate change models. The current earth science used did not anticipate any of these things. 

There are these things.

[Origin]

This made me think, was it possible that the earth is breaking down fossils fuel resources, all the way to CO2 using supercritical; hydrothermal water, deep in the earth. This type of organic decomposition reaction could be contributing to the CO2 rise we see, and it is not in the current equations.

I think it is not included since that would be a stupid thing to do.

[Bored chemist]

They used supercritical water; hot and high pressure water. Water at these conditions is not only a good organic solvent, but in their technology, it broke down these nasty organic chemicals all the way to CO2.

You forgot the bit where they add air or oxygen, without it, that process doesn't really work.

This made me think, was it possible that the earth is breaking down fossils fuel resources, all the way to CO2 using supercritical; hydrothermal water, deep in the earth. This type of organic decomposition reaction could be contributing to the CO2 rise we see, and it is not in the current equations.

No, it couldn't.
Essentially, you can only burn carbon to CO2 if there's air (or some other strong oxidant) and there's none deep underground.

Another problem I have with the climate change models is they are based on obsolete earth science, that does not include some very provocative new earth discoveries. The main discovery is the iron core of the earth is rotating faster than the surface. This discovery suggests the core is dragging the mantle and crust along via visco-plastic friction. This means heat generation that is not in any of the models.

You are muddling cause and effect.
Because heat is generated in the earth by radioactive decay, there are convection currents which produce movement.
It is not that the movement creates the heat.
So, once again, you are barking up the wrong tree.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

Record early snowfall in alaska

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/09/24/was-today-a-snow-day-in-anchorage-not-according-to-the-national-weather-service/


Winter comes early too to Scandinavia.


https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2021/10/winter-comes-early-scandinavia

www.thelocal.no/20211019/drivers-in-norway-urged-to-switch-to-winter-tyres-after-snowfall/%3famp

[Bored chemist]

Record early snowfall in alaska

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/09/24/was-today-a-snow-day-in-anchorage-not-according-to-the-national-weather-service/


Winter comes early too to Scandinavia.


https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2021/10/winter-comes-early-scandinavia

www.thelocal.no/20211019/drivers-in-norway-urged-to-switch-to-winter-tyres-after-snowfall/%3famp

Why are you posting stories about the weather?
Are you just trying to be very British?

[Zer0]

Record early snowfall in alaska

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/09/24/was-today-a-snow-day-in-anchorage-not-according-to-the-national-weather-service/


Winter comes early too to Scandinavia.


https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2021/10/winter-comes-early-scandinavia

www.thelocal.no/20211019/drivers-in-norway-urged-to-switch-to-winter-tyres-after-snowfall/%3famp

Why are you posting stories about the weather?
Are you just trying to be very British?

Perhaps you should pay more Attention & concentrate harder.

The OP is merely raising Valid Points which can All contribute towards the phenomenon of Global Warming.

If you did not know it already, which Grim ThunderBurger clearly does Not understand...
Global Warming can cause Droughts, Floods, Storms alike.
(There's a really good reason parents send their children to school for, To Learn Stuff)

Ps - I did not quite understand the reference towards tryin to be
 " BRITISH " .
I Strongly Object Racism.
(Are you trying to be a Racist?)

[Colin2B]

Ps - I did not quite understand the reference towards tryin to be
 " BRITISH " .
I Strongly Object Racism.
(Are you trying to be a Racist?)

Is it racist to mention a general characteristic of a nation or group? Not sure whether we do talk about the weather more than other nations, but we have a lot to talk about in the local weather:
https://www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-do-the-british-talk-about-the-weather-so-much/
https://www.rabbies.com/en/blog/why-british-always-talk-about-weather

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

Record early snowfall in alaska

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/09/24/was-today-a-snow-day-in-anchorage-not-according-to-the-national-weather-service/


Winter comes early too to Scandinavia.


https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2021/10/winter-comes-early-scandinavia

www.thelocal.no/20211019/drivers-in-norway-urged-to-switch-to-winter-tyres-after-snowfall/%3famp

Why are you posting stories about the weather?
Are you just trying to be very British?

Perhaps you should pay more Attention & concentrate harder.

The OP is merely raising Valid Points which can All contribute towards the phenomenon of Global Warming.

If you did not know it already, which Grim ThunderBurger clearly does Not understand...
Global Warming can cause Droughts, Floods, Storms alike.
(There's a really good reason parents send their children to school for, To Learn Stuff)

They are all cooling events, along with extraordinary snow in Brazil and Australia this year, you have to take note.

[Bored chemist]

I Strongly Object Racism.

Me too.
So how did you come to the conclusion that "British" is a race?
Don't you understand that this is a multiracial, multicultural nation?

I did not quite understand the reference

You didn't even slightly understand it, did you?

The point is that the events that PC was talking about were weather, not climate.

"Talking about the weather" is a cliché British attribute.

However, I accept that my critique must have been too subtle, because he's still posting irrelevant tosh like this.

They are all cooling events, along with extraordinary snow in Brazil and Australia this year, you have to take note.

[Zer0]

I Still Strongly Object Racism!
(It's an Idealogy)

I still Do Not Understand what Being British or Non British has anything to do with the Subject or Topic of this Specific OP.
(MODS have made it clear TNS isn't only UK, it welcomes International Users, Only Trolls & Spammers Disallowed)

Ps - Asking a mere question, be it
 " Very British " or " Racist " does Not imply Accusation.
(Simple English & Common Sense)

[Bored chemist]

Climate is not the same as weather.
This thread is about climate.
So it shouldn't be used to talk about weather.
But PC was talking about weather events.

There are three (or more) possible reasons for that:
(1) He doesn't know the difference- which implies he's a bit gormless.
(2) He knows, but is trolling.
(3) He knows, but he wants (for whatever reason) to indulge in the terribly British cliché habit of "talking about the weather- regardless of how inappropriate it is.

His profile says he is based in Britain, so I'm pretty sure he will have understood the message.

The OP is merely raising Valid Points

No.
Petrochemicals is raising red herrings about weather. A cold spell somewhere doesn't mean that global warming is not real, so it is not a valid point.

[puppypower]

They used supercritical water; hot and high pressure water. Water at these conditions is not only a good organic solvent, but in their technology, it broke down these nasty organic chemicals all the way to CO2.

You forgot the bit where they add air or oxygen, without it, that process doesn't really work.

This made me think, was it possible that the earth is breaking down fossils fuel resources, all the way to CO2 using supercritical; hydrothermal water, deep in the earth. This type of organic decomposition reaction could be contributing to the CO2 rise we see, and it is not in the current equations.

No, it couldn't.
Essentially, you can only burn carbon to CO2 if there's air (or some other strong oxidant) and there's none deep underground.

Another problem I have with the climate change models is they are based on obsolete earth science, that does not include some very provocative new earth discoveries. The main discovery is the iron core of the earth is rotating faster than the surface. This discovery suggests the core is dragging the mantle and crust along via visco-plastic friction. This means heat generation that is not in any of the models.

You are muddling cause and effect.
Because heat is generated in the earth by radioactive decay, there are convection currents which produce movement.
It is not that the movement creates the heat.
So, once again, you are barking up the wrong tree.

You are working under obsolete assumptions.

The layering of the inner earth; from crust to core, is consistent with the phase diagram of water at extreme temperatures and pressures. For example, at the assumed conditions of the earth's  core, water becomes a metallic solid. It had been assumed for many years that metallic water would require far more extreme conditions, similar to the core of Jupiter. However, a team at Lawrence Livermore successfully made metallic water at milder conditions closer to the earth's core. The bias of traditions can be misleadingly authoritative, until experimental techniques advance. 

As we lower the temperature and pressure from the core, metallic water will  change phase into a fluid phase called ionic water; outer core and lower mantle.  In this case we have a matrix of oxygen atoms and ions with hydrogen protons. This phase of water can rust the solid iron core, making iron oxides, while releasing electrons and heat;  phase fluid.

This drive for iron core oxidation is driven by the sun through the evaporation of water; positive charge in the atmosphere. It is also connected to photosynthesis and the resultant oxygen atmosphere; oxidation potential. The alkaline pH of the oceans reflects this electron flow; phase equilibrium, from core to surface.

Confined water will move from the surface to the core, driven by an entropy increase, that increases by increasing temperature and pressure. For example, in hydrothermal experiments, as we increase the temperature and pressure of water to its critical point, water becomes a dense fluid; between liquid and gas, that is an aggressive solvent for minerals and organics. This solvent power increases further with increasing temperature and pressure; super critical water. The thermal and pressure gradient of the earth from surface to core allows water to express the second law by following the gradient to the core. This creates a continuity of water phases and earth layers from metallic at the core, to vapor in the atmosphere.

Another interesting recent observation was the earth is denser from pole to pole compared to radially at the equator. We know the earth is wider at the equator, but it is also less dense in terms of its average composition. This was determined by measuring the speed of seismic waves from earthquakes in different directions. When normalized for distance, seismic waves moved fastest in the pole to pole direction; denser materials.   

This is expected from a water model of the inner earth.The equator defines the solar energy maximum and is therefore the zone of maximum water evaporation. The equator therefore should maximize the potential with the core, and become the main zone of corrosion and highest electron flow. This electron flow maxima will also increase the entropy potential of the water; flow rate to the core, which alters the density in the equatorial direction.

Climate change is normal for the earth since it consistent with the second law. Water plays a key role in the entropy economy of the earth from core to climate. Water is the primary greenhouse gas of the earth. The consensus of experts do not like to admit this. If we took away the surface water and left just the scary CO2 and methane the earth would be frozen. The water is what has the thermal capacitance that keeps the earth mild. It also provides inner earth heat and electrons to promote entropic change. I like the idea of  learning to adapt to the change rather than trying turn back time by foolishly thinking one can lowering the surface entropy back to 1889. The equilibrium is more than just the surface.

[Zer0]

Hmm...now i am Confused.

I do not think the OP would have been Allowed to keep going on & on without a MOD stepping in, or correcting, or simply locking up the thread.
(If you Noticed, there are 2 Mods involved within the discussions)

I suspect i have misassumed the OP raising Cold Weather phenomenon patterns in Support of Global Warming being a Real Deal.

Perhaps that is what the OP wished for Grim ToonBooger to raise those Cold pattern points in support of explaining the Reality of Global Warming.

Ps - hmm, i feel I've made a mistake in Understanding the point of view of the OP.
🙏
(Yes, i do get it that Global Warming does not just only mean temperatures keep rising, it does clearly contribute in disturbing generalized weather patterns, and promotes disruptive and harsh n extreme climate)

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60423329.amp

I am clearly barking up the wrong tree, I can see that now.

[Kryptid]

I am clearly barking up the wrong tree, I can see that now.

Good. I'm glad you finally recognize that.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

I am clearly barking up the wrong tree, I can see that now.

Good. I'm glad you finally recognize that.

How can you debase yourself so?

[Kryptid]

I am clearly barking up the wrong tree, I can see that now.

Good. I'm glad you finally recognize that.

How can you debase yourself so?

You're going to have to elaborate, because I don't know what you're talking about.

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

I am clearly barking up the wrong tree, I can see that now.

Good. I'm glad you finally recognize that.

How can you debase yourself so?

You're going to have to elaborate, because I don't know what you're talking about.

Once more.

Are you a member of "Insulate Britain" Kryptid? Perhaps "Extinction Rebellion"? You seem to utterly denounce anything that dilutes the mantra of CO2 driven warming to the point of discredit to yourself.

[Kryptid]

I don't know what either "Insulate Britain" or "Extinction Rebellion" is, so no.

What have I done to discredit myself?

[Petrochemicals (OP)]

I don't know what either "Insulate Britain" or "Extinction Rebellion" is, so no.

What have I done to discredit myself?

You seem to be attacking the question rather than answering it again. Very devicive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60423329.amp