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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #20 on: 08/11/2017 22:41:48 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/11/2017 21:48:18
What do you think "calibrated" means?

I think small changes in weight unrelated to the process under investigation are smoothed out.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #21 on: 08/11/2017 22:49:31 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/11/2017 21:35:10
So if you heat up matter, introduce negative heat particles,
What are those?
Did you  make them up?
Is there any evidence for them?
Quote from: Yaniv on Today at 20:08:41
lower the positive charge of an object,
Most objects don't have a positive charge on them, so your idea is irrelevant to almost everything anyway.

Might it be better if you started by learning some science?

I think you better read my theory.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #22 on: 08/11/2017 23:02:30 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 08/11/2017 20:27:27
My theory predicts hot and cold objects should fall at the same rate.

So W = mg. Not the most impressive advance in theoretical physics in the last 400 years.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #23 on: 08/11/2017 23:18:52 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/11/2017 23:02:30
My theory predicts hot and cold objects should fall at the same rate.

So W = mg. Not the most impressive advance in theoretical physics in the last 400 years.

My theory predicts W (weight) should decrease at increasing temperatre but g (rate of fall) should remain the same at increasing temperature. If this is the case decided by experiments specifically designed to test this prediction ,and not experiments designed to measure other processes like chemical decomposition, then m (mass) is not a constant and this equation is falsified.
« Last Edit: 08/11/2017 23:28:58 by Yaniv »
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #24 on: 09/11/2017 00:27:56 »
You may wish to look at papers (M. Glaser, Metrologia 1990 & Dmitriev et al, Measurements Techniques 2003) showing W of heated metals decreases at increasing T in air.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #25 on: 09/11/2017 00:48:04 »
Not all matter is positively-charged. Electrons, for example.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #26 on: 09/11/2017 00:51:57 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 00:48:04
Not all matter is positively-charged. Electrons, for example.

Why don't you read my theory ?
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #27 on: 09/11/2017 00:57:37 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 09/11/2017 00:51:57
Why don't you read my theory ?

I read your reply in post #6. Are you saying that the content you posted is not accurate? Definitely sounds like you were saying that matter is inherently positively charged there.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #28 on: 09/11/2017 01:02:11 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 00:57:37
I read your reply in post #6. Are you saying that the content you posted is not accurate? Definitely sounds like you were saying that matter is inherently positively charged there.

The section posted is one sub-chapter from a whole theory.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #29 on: 09/11/2017 01:03:53 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 09/11/2017 01:02:11
The section posted is one sub-chapter from a whole theory.

Well, are you saying that matter is positively-charged or not?
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #30 on: 09/11/2017 01:09:54 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 01:03:53
Well, are you saying that matter is positively-charged or not?

Matter is made up of more positive than negative particles giving it a positive charge.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #31 on: 09/11/2017 02:11:49 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 09/11/2017 01:09:54
Matter is made up of more positive than negative particles giving it a positive charge.

If that was the case, then matter would not be stable because atoms would repel each other due to their net positive charge.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #32 on: 09/11/2017 02:22:54 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 02:11:49
If that was the case, then matter would not be stable because atoms would repel each other due to their net positive charge.

Positive repulsive forces between atoms are balanced by contributory electric forces the negative adhesive forces of negative particles and the repulsive forces of the environment (entire universe).
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #33 on: 09/11/2017 02:48:04 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 09/11/2017 02:22:54
Positive repulsive forces between atoms are balanced by contributory electric forces the negative adhesive forces of negative particles and the repulsive forces of the environment (entire universe).

Unless those negative particles you speak of have the exact same magnitude of charge as that of matter, then there will still be a net charge present which will make atoms repel each other.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #34 on: 09/11/2017 03:01:44 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 02:48:04
Unless those negative particles you speak of have the exact same magnitude of charge as that of matter, then there will still be a net charge present which will make atoms repel each other.

Positive atoms in a positive universe is like neutral atoms in a neutral universe. On large scales the positive charge of the universe pushes its expansion.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #35 on: 09/11/2017 03:16:34 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 09/11/2017 03:01:44
Positive atoms in a positive universe is like neutral atoms in a neutral universe.

Um, no. Otherwise we would never be able to observe two positively-charged objects repelling each other. If space-time has a net positive charge (as I assume you mean when you say "positive universe"), that would do nothing to alleviate the repulsion felt between two neighboring, positively-charged atoms.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #36 on: 09/11/2017 03:29:05 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 03:16:34
Um, no. Otherwise we would never be able to observe two positively-charged objects repelling each other. If space-time has a net positive charge (as I assume you mean when you say "positive universe"), that would do nothing to alleviate the repulsion felt between two neighboring, positively-charged atoms.
Two atoms at close proximity become polarized with a weak positive pole facing each other and a strong positive pole facing away from each other. The weak poles decreases repulsive forces between atoms and the strong poles increase repulsive forces from outside.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #37 on: 09/11/2017 09:52:24 »

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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #38 on: 09/11/2017 20:25:53 »
Quote from: Yaniv on 09/11/2017 03:29:05
Two atoms at close proximity become polarized with a weak positive pole facing each other and a strong positive pole facing away from each other. The weak poles decreases repulsive forces between atoms and the strong poles increase repulsive forces from outside.

So what happens when you have a crystal of solid neon where the atoms are arranged in a cubic close-packed lattice? Each atom is surrounded by 12 other atoms, each one of those peripheral atoms having another atom directly across from it on the other side of the central atom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-packing_of_equal_spheres.
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Re: Experiment to test W=mg
« Reply #39 on: 09/11/2017 20:46:03 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 09/11/2017 20:25:53
So what happens when you have a crystal of solid neon where the atoms are arranged in a cubic close-packed lattice? Each atom is surrounded by 12 other atoms, each one of those peripheral atoms having another atom directly across from it on the other side of the central atom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-packing_of_equal_spheres.

The distributions of electrons in atoms inside a crystal will be different with more complicated geometry.
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