[smart (OP)]

Is there any scientific definition of a "manchurian candidate"?

What do we know exactly about the science of psychocomputational energetics?



See: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/hearings/95mkultra.pdf

[smart (OP)]

Senator HUDDLESTON. Was there any evidence or any indication that there were other motives that the Agency might also be looking for drugs that could be applied for other purposes, such as debilitating an individual or even killing another person? Was this part of this kind of experimentation?

Admiral TURNER. Yes; I think there is. I have not seen in this series of documentation evidence of desire to kill, but I think the project turned its character from a defensive to an offensive one as it went along, and there certainly was an intention here to develop drugs that could be of use.

[smart (OP)]

The implication of the underlined portion of the above statement is that if a technique were devised to induce brain concussion without giving either advance warning or causing external physical trauma, the person upon recovery would be unable to recall what had happened to him. Under these conditions the same technique of producing the concussion could be re-used many times without disclosure of its nature.

[smart (OP)]

Excitation of the resonance cavitation by tuned sound waves also appears to be a reasonable possibility. Concentration of the soundfield at some remote point could be effected with accoustical lenses and reflectors. The blast duration would be in the order of a tenth of a second. Masking of a noise of this duration should not be too dificult.

[chiralSPO]

Really tk?

I knew you were into conspiracy theories, but this one takes the cake.

Honestly, it terrifies me that there are so many conspiracy theorists out there, and that they can find each other online and confirm each others ridiculous ideas.

Now, before you start accusing me of being "in on it" I will say there is nothing to be "in on."

In all seriousness, and without the intent of denigrating you or anyone else with mental health issues, if you really think there is any reasonable chance that school shooters were controlled by their phones, you should really strongly consider seeking treatment again.

[smart (OP)]

Really tk?

I knew you were into conspiracy theories, but this one takes the cake.

Honestly, it terrifies me that there are so many conspiracy theorists out there, and that they can find each other online and confirm each others ridiculous ideas.

Now, before you start accusing me of being "in on it" I will say there is nothing to be "in on."

In all seriousness, and without the intent of denigrating you or anyone else with mental health issues, if you really think there is any reasonable chance that school shooters were controlled by their phones, you should really strongly consider seeking treatment again.

Before you accuse me of being torn apart with conspiracy theories, can you please read the full document?

By the way, this document is from the US government, @chiralSPO . Will you also accuse me of having invented mkultra experiments?

I was hoping you could provide a more accurate and scientific answer rather than simply making fun of me.
 

[smart (OP)]

More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/badBIOS/comments/35tysj/navys_perfect_concussion_project_beamed/

[smart (OP)]

Who was John C. Lilly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly

[smart (OP)]

Brief, Noninjurious Electric Waveform for Stimulation of the Brain (1955): http://science.sciencemag.org/content/121/3144/468

[chiralSPO]

MKultra was a real program, but only indicates intent of government to be creepy (we already knew that).

The notion that a phone could control a human mind vastly overestimates the capabilities of any "bad actor," and this will likely remain in the realm of science fiction for a few more decades.

I will grant that there may be a way to hack a phone to rig it to cause bodily harm to the user, I don't know how, but let's say it is possible. Causing concussions is still a very long shot from mind control.

Are people (govts, mafias, and corporations) secretly gathering info on people to use for their own profit? That's a safe bet. Is Apple and the US govt and Iridium engaged in a decades-long conspiracy to use phones to knock people out and reprogram them to do the gov'ts bidding? Sounds like a very long shot. Especially when there is a really cheap and effective way of getting the same results: bribery, blackmail, and deceit are tried and true methods of turning enemies against their own.

No need for fancy, expensive tech, and thousands of co-conspirators.

[Kryptid]

By the way, this document is from the US government, @chiralSPO . Will you also accuse me of having invented mkultra experiments?

Project MKUltra was done way before smartphones were invented, so some documents from the project cannot possibly contain evidence that smartphones are being used to mind control people.

[Bored chemist]

Is there any scientific definition of a "manchurian candidate"?

Yes
"The Manchurian Candidate is a novel by Richard Condon, first published in 1959. "
from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate

There is no reason to believe in any "real" existence of one.

[smart (OP)]

Some TI's report that the voices are trying to trick them into acts of violence, such as entering a
school and shooting people. This is instructive in the wake of the wave of school
shootings and other apparently spontaneous acts of random violence that have no clear
motivation. The effort to cause school shootings is a classical destabilization campaign
to raise the level of fear in society that promotes acceptance of repressive measures by
the parents but also has led to school children living in fear and seeing armed uniformed
men in the school that normalizes their acceptance of living in a police state.

https://archive.org/stream/MonarchTheNewPhoenixProgram_441/Monarch_djvu.txt

[Bored chemist]

What are you hoping to achieve by posting conspiracy nonsense on a science web site?

[smart (OP)]

What are you hoping to achieve by posting conspiracy nonsense on a science web site?

You're getting too old for this man. You should take a break off.

[Kryptid]

Some TI's report that the voices are trying to trick them into acts of violence, such as entering a
school and shooting people. This is instructive in the wake of the wave of school
shootings and other apparently spontaneous acts of random violence that have no clear
motivation. The effort to cause school shootings is a classical destabilization campaign
to raise the level of fear in society that promotes acceptance of repressive measures by
the parents but also has led to school children living in fear and seeing armed uniformed
men in the school that normalizes their acceptance of living in a police state.

https://archive.org/stream/MonarchTheNewPhoenixProgram_441/Monarch_djvu.txt

Non-sequitur. You can't make a logical jump from "people hear voices" to "people hear voices because their mobile phones are mind-controlling them" without some really good evidence that mobile phones actually do possess the mind-controlling capabilities you claim that they have.

[Bored chemist]

What are you hoping to achieve by posting conspiracy nonsense on a science web site?

[smart (OP)]

Non-sequitur. You can't make a logical jump from "people hear voices" to "people hear voices because their mobile phones are mind-controlling them" without some really good evidence that mobile phones actually do possess the mind-controlling capabilities you claim that they have.

Read this:
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/block-ultrasonic-signals-didnt-know-tracking/
http://christian.wressnegger.info/content/projects/sidechannels/2017-eurosp.pdf

[chiralSPO]

Yes, that device that you always carry with you, the one with the camera, microphone, gps, accelrometer and a constant link to the internet, is spying on you. Welcome to the 21st century. If you actually read any of the fine print in the contracts when you buy a smartphone, smart tv, etc., you will see the bit where they say that. Don't agree? Don't use a smart phone.

Does this "revelation" indicate, in any way, that these devices can be used to knock out a specific person, reprogram them to do things they wouldn't otherwise be able to do, or want to do, and then once the deed is done wipe any memory of this from their minds? Um... no.

[smart (OP)]

Does this "revelation" indicate, in any way, that these devices can be used to knock out a specific person, reprogram them to do things they wouldn't otherwise be able to do, or want to do, and then once the deed is done wipe any memory of this from their minds?

Please dig further...
Did you knew that ultrasonic signals may be used to remotely trigger a behavioral response through mechanical effect on neurons??
See: http://www.jneurosci.org/content/early/2018/02/20/JNEUROSCI.1458-17.2018