[chiralSPO]

Oh wow, a cutting edge article published last week in a well-respected journal showed that a team of scientists were able to use very loud sounds that are too high for humans to hear to trick tiny worms (with a total of 302 neurons in its whole body) into feeling sensations that the worms apparently misinterpreted as "objects in the way" that they would try to avoid. How does this support your claim that human mind control is not only possible, but has been implemented already?

It's a cool article, and I'll cut you some slack because the actual article is behind a pay wall, so you can't see any more than the abstract. But even there, it clearly says (my bolding):

Further, we propose that acoustic radiation force governs the response to ultrasound in a manner that depends on the touch receptor neurons and MEC-4-dependent ion channels. Our findings illuminate a complete pathway of ultrasound action, from the forces generated by propagating ultrasound to an activation of a specific ion channel. The findings further highlight the importance of optimizing ultrasound pulsing protocols when stimulating neurons via ion channels with mechanosensitive properties.

Essentially, they are using touch receptor neurons, which are innately sensitive to pressure (in contrast to our CNS neurons, which are not). They found a "bug" in the worms' sense of touch and were able to get the worms to feel things that weren't there. Again, cool stuff with interesting implications about touch. But if this is the sort of evidence you want to present to support claims about human mind control, this is the wrong forum (I wish there weren't a "right one" for this kind of discourse).

[evan_au]

Some TI's report that the voices are trying to trick them into acts of violence

Psychotic conditions (where voices instruct people to acts of violence) predate smartphones, and predate cellphones.
What makes you think that mobile phones are the cause of these voices?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

[Kryptid]

https://www.wired.com/2016/11/block-ultrasonic-signals-didnt-know-tracking/
http://christian.wressnegger.info/content/projects/sidechannels/2017-eurosp.pdf

There isn't an iota of evidence in either of those links that mobile phones are mind-controlling people. Terms like "brain", "mind-control" and "neuron" are absent from both of those links.

[smart (OP)]

Oh wow, a cutting edge article published last week in a well-respected journal showed that a team of scientists were able to use very loud sounds that are too high for humans to hear to trick tiny worms (with a total of 302 neurons in its whole body) into feeling sensations that the worms apparently misinterpreted as "objects in the way" that they would try to avoid. How does this support your claim that human mind control is not only possible, but has been implemented already?

It's a cool article, and I'll cut you some slack because the actual article is behind a pay wall, so you can't see any more than the abstract. But even there, it clearly says (my bolding):

Further, we propose that acoustic radiation force governs the response to ultrasound in a manner that depends on the touch receptor neurons and MEC-4-dependent ion channels. Our findings illuminate a complete pathway of ultrasound action, from the forces generated by propagating ultrasound to an activation of a specific ion channel. The findings further highlight the importance of optimizing ultrasound pulsing protocols when stimulating neurons via ion channels with mechanosensitive properties.

Essentially, they are using touch receptor neurons, which are innately sensitive to pressure (in contrast to our CNS neurons, which are not). They found a "bug" in the worms' sense of touch and were able to get the worms to feel things that weren't there. Again, cool stuff with interesting implications about touch. But if this is the sort of evidence you want to present to support claims about human mind control, this is the wrong forum (I wish there weren't a "right one" for this kind of discourse).

C. elegans is a model organism for studying the central nervous system. Besides, the possibility of ultrasonic signals to control neurons is well known. Just google it.

[smart (OP)]

What makes you think that mobile phones are the cause of these voices?

Look at the picture on my initial post for clues... Then, you may consider the possibility that ultrasonic side-channels embedded in mobile phones could be used to stimulate the auditory/visual cortex of the user without their consent. Also, the possibility that Nikolas Cruz owned a mobile phone before and during the attack is not being disclosed. Why?

Moreover, after reviewing the background of the shooter, I found no evidences that he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Autistic and depressive peoples are not known for hearing remote voices. Something clearly is broken in the official story.


 

[Kryptid]

Then, you may consider the possibility that ultrasonic side-channels embedded in mobile phones could be used to stimulate the auditory/visual cortex of the user without their consent.

That doesn't mean that ultrasonic signals can be used to mind-control people. Even if they could be used for mind control, it doesn't mean that mobile phones specifically are secretly being used to mind-control people. You really need to find a way to separate "could be done" and "is being done" in your mind. Those two phrases are not synonymous.

[smart (OP)]

"Can an individual of [redacted] descent be made to perform an act of attempted assassination involuntarily under the influence of ARTICHOKE?"

https://unredacted.com/2010/04/23/document-friday-project-artichoke-or-the-cia-attempt-to-create-a-manchurian-candidate/

[smart (OP)]

[smart (OP)]

Connect the dots people!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/study-finds-young-people-on-antidepressants-more-prone-to-violence

[Bored chemist]

Lots of folk take prozac ut don't go on killing sprees.
There were mass murders before prozac was on the market.
So it's obviously stupid to think that prozac is the cause of of mass killings.

You cite a link that says it "does not prove that such drugs cause people to be more violent,"

So- why do you pretend otherwise?
Why, as yo put it, "connect the dots" to form a picture that's' not real, never was, and never will be?

[Kryptid]

"Can an individual of [redacted] descent be made to perform an act of attempted assassination involuntarily under the influence of ARTICHOKE?"

https://unredacted.com/2010/04/23/document-friday-project-artichoke-or-the-cia-attempt-to-create-a-manchurian-candidate/

Nothing about mobile phones being used to mind control people there.

Nothing about mobile phones being used to mind control people there.

Connect the dots people!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/study-finds-young-people-on-antidepressants-more-prone-to-violence

Nothing about mobile phones being used to mind control people there.

[chiralSPO]

https://xkcd.com/258/

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[smart (OP)]

You guys are underestimating seriously the science, history, and current research on psychoenergetics. Educate yourself. MKUltra was only the beginning of it. Do you really think that US government is stupid enough to disclose psychoenergetics research? Do you know what means TOP-SECRET/CLASSIFIED projects to begin with?

Do you think seriously that Nikolas Cruz has become a born-to-kill assasin without the use of drugs and possibly psychoenergitics bioweapons? Do you even know what the heck is psychoenergetics bioweapons?

Why don't you see the patterns behind theses well-designed and coordinated attacks on the American people?

Your president is a liar.

You are being lied by the elites who thinks that they're so bright nobody will ever dare to challenge the official narrative.

I will tell you something...

The truth is the truth and nothing, and nobody can hide from it.

We all have what it takes to become educated and informed about the science of psychoenergetics.

History, my friends, is seriously an essential thing to teach in schools.

School is definitely not a place to put guns.

If you disagree with this reasoning then you're probably my enemy.

I love kids too much to allow guns to be put inside schools.

Sorry, it's not going to work out.

People will wake up and throw their smart phones away once they realized how and why it is used against us.

tk





 

[Kryptid]

Here is my burden of proof: give me one, just one, verified instance of a smart phone (or any kind of phone) being used to mind control someone. The phone must also have equipment inside of it that is present in existing, publicly-available smart phones (obviously, super-special-secret smart phones are pointless if no one in the public owns one). When I say "verified", I mean it has to be a study or experiment published in a reputable source. It cannot be in the form of ambiguous evidence. Here are some (hypothetical) examples of ambiguous evidence:

(1) "So-and-so went on a shooting spree soon after buying a smart phone."
(2) "People with smart phones are statistically.more likely to shoot people than those who do not have them."
(3) "All recent shooters owned smart phones."
(4) "Signals from smart phones can affect the brain."

So give me a verified source. If you can do this, I will begin to take your claims seriously. I will accept nothing less. If you cannot do this, then you are wasting your key strokes.

[chiralSPO]

School is definitely not a place to put guns.

I will agree with you there!

[smart (OP)]

So give me a verified source. If you can do this, I will begin to take your claims seriously. I will accept nothing less. If you cannot do this, then you are wasting your key strokes.

What do rats find rewarding in play fighting?

Consider a "technique" for tricking someone to believe he/she playing a video game.

[Colin2B]

Why don't you see the patterns behind theses well-designed and coordinated attacks on the American people?
Your president is a liar.
You are being lied by the elites who thinks that they're so bright nobody will ever dare to challenge the official narrative.

But you are one of the people spreading these narraitives!! So you are responsible for the co-ordinated attacks.

[Kryptid]

What do rats find rewarding in play fighting?

Consider a "technique" for tricking someone to believe he/she playing a video game.

So still no verified sources, eh?

[smart (OP)]

So still no verified sources, eh?

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=72490.0

[Bored chemist]

So still no verified sources, eh?

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=72490.0

LOL
Citing yourself isn't a verified source.